Silent Hill 5 Interview: PS3 Has No Limitations

Finally, it looks like Silent Hill 5 is bursting forth from the loins of Konami and scaring the bejeezus out of people. No, we don't have any screenshots and yes, we made all of that up, but we do have an interview with one of the creative minds behind the game. Masashi Tsuboyama, chief director, answers some questions in the latest Electric Shock magazine. Here are the points of interest:

Konami and the team behind Silent Hill have looked at the current consoles and concluded they all have limitations that hamper their ideas for the game and delay progress. Except the PlayStation 3.

No multiplatform plans as of yet. But the sales of PS3 are slow so they may have to reconsider later on down the road if things appear dismal. Which of course means delayed progress and not taking advantage of the PS3's power.

Tsuboyama claims Blu-ray will be a very necessary asset in their development of the game.

The PS3, he says, is tough to work with, but when they get used to it, the processing power will be far beyond the other consoles.

Keep an eye out at E3, as Tsuboyama seemed to clam up about the game when asked if anything would be shown. Perhaps he's being a tease, but we'd like to believe that the rumors regarding the game's progress are true. The game isn't a system seller, so we expect either a timed exclusive or simultaneous multiplatform release with the 360 -- with the game smartly built originally on the PS3. Keep your fingers crossed, and keep those mannequins out of dimly lit apartment buildings!

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/05/30/silent-hill-5-interview-if-ps3-sells-it-could-be-exclusive/

ps3 has no limitations :shock: another developer that has made this claim behind facter 5.

Finally, it looks like Silent Hill 5 is bursting forth from the loins of Konami and scaring the bejeezus out of people. No, we don't have any screenshots and yes, we made all of that up, but we do have an interview with one of the creative minds behind the game. Masashi Tsuboyama, chief director, answers some questions in the latest Electric Shock magazine. Here are the points of interest:

Konami and the team behind Silent Hill have looked at the current consoles and concluded they all have limitations that hamper their ideas for the game and delay progress. Except the PlayStation 3. No multiplatform plans as of yet. But the sales of PS3 are slow so they may have to reconsider later on down the road if things appear dismal. Which of course means delayed progress and not taking advantage of the PS3's power. Tsuboyama claims Blu-ray will be a very necessary asset in their development of the game. The PS3, he says, is tough to work with, but when they get used to it, the processing power will be far beyond the other consoles.

Keep an eye out at E3, as Tsuboyama seemed to clam up about the game when asked if anything would be shown. Perhaps he's being a tease, but we'd like to believe that the rumors regarding the game's progress are true. The game isn't a system seller, so we expect either a timed exclusive or simultaneous multiplatform release with the 360 -- with the game smartly built originally on the PS3. Keep your fingers crossed, and keep those mannequins out of dimly lit apartment buildings!

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/05/30/silent-hill-5-interview-if-ps3-sells-it-could-be-exclusive/

 

-Renegade

sounds good, they need more space (bluray)

lets hope they're not bsing 

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation  in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

alecsuba

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late 

Finally, it looks like Silent Hill 5 is bursting forth from the loins of Konami and scaring the bejeezus out of people. No, we don't have any screenshots and yes, we made all of that up, but we do have an interview with one of the creative minds behind the game. Masashi Tsuboyama, chief director, answers some questions in the latest Electric Shock magazine. Here are the points of interest:

 

Konami and the team behind Silent Hill have looked at the current consoles and concluded they all have limitations that hamper their ideas for the game and delay progress. Except the PlayStation 3.

No multiplatform plans as of yet. But the sales of PS3 are slow so they may have to reconsider later on down the road if things appear dismal. Which of course means delayed progress and not taking advantage of the PS3's power.

Tsuboyama claims Blu-ray will be a very necessary asset in their development of the game.

The PS3, he says, is tough to work with, but when they get used to it, the processing power will be far beyond the other consoles.

Keep an eye out at E3, as Tsuboyama seemed to clam up about the game when asked if anything would be shown. Perhaps he's being a tease, but we'd like to believe that the rumors regarding the game's progress are true. The game isn't a system seller, so we expect either a timed exclusive or simultaneous multiplatform release with the 360 -- with the game smartly built originally on the PS3. Keep your fingers crossed, and keep those mannequins out of dimly lit apartment buildings!

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/05/30/silent-hill-5-interview-if-ps3-sells-it-could-be-exclusive/

ps3 has no limitations :shock: another developer that has made this claim behind facter 5.

 

-Renegade

What would the next Silent Hill game have that the Xbox 360 can't do? Better graphics? I doubt that. But if the article is true, I guess the next Silent Hill will be a lot different from the previous games in the series.

[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

ForTheNguyen

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there. 

That actually sounds like a no BS statement and it sounds like they know how to take advantage of the PS3's power.

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

alecsuba

this is off topic but your post about japan being the "homeland" of video games really just pissed me off. the first video game was invented by Willy Hignibotham in 1958 in Upton, New York, USA. the game was tetris. (tetris is a russian game but an american made the first video game.) america was the only country to develop video games and video game consoles (until philips, a dutch company, bought magnavox in 1974) until 1983 when nintendo got in the game (no pun intended). that means that the USA not only invented the video game industry, but held it for 25 YEARS!!! so really, the USA is the HOMELAND of video games, not japan.

link

back on topic. most ps3 only devs say this about all their projects/games until they port their game over to another console or turn it into a multiplat game. example, dmc4. or a game is hyped only to be downgraded to a multiplayer download which lacks a single player feature. example warhawk. 

[QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

hazuki87

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there. 

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

[QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

hazuki87

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

KillJeff

[QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

Rougehunter

What does that have to do anything to what I said?

[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

jsnepo

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

to the ps3's cooling unit:

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

latinrage69

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

to the ps3's cooling unit:

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20061113/123465/fan2.jpg

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

I'm fully aware of that. I just want to back up the statement that the PS3 is actually doing pretty well agains the Xbox 360 at the same time both were released.

[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

latinrage69

this is off topic but your post about japan being the "homeland" of video games really just pissed me off. the first video game was invented by Willy Hignibotham in 1958 in Upton, New York, USA. the game was tetris. (tetris is a russian game but an american made the first video game.) america was the only country to develop video games and video game consoles (until philips, a dutch company, bought magnavox in 1974) until 1983 when nintendo got in the game (no pun intended). that means that the USA not only invented the video game industry, but held it for 25 YEARS!!! so really, the USA is the HOMELAND of video games, not japan.

back on topic. most ps3 only devs say this about all their projects/games until they port their game over to another console or turn it into a multiplat game. example, dmc4. or a game is hyped only to be downgraded to a multiplayer download which lacks a single player feature. example warhawk. 

konami makes games for all platforms...

[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

latinrage69

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

to the ps3's cooling unit:

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

That looks mighty awesome.  Never see that component of the PS3 innards opened up. 

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

KillJeff

What does that have to do anything to what I said?

he's saying that just because a console is the most powerful, it may not win. last gen, the xbox was the most powerful and it lost. 

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

-Renegade

this is off topic but your post about japan being the "homeland" of video games really just pissed me off. the first video game was invented by Willy Hignibotham in 1958 in Upton, New York, USA. the game was tetris. (tetris is a russian game but an american made the first video game.) america was the only country to develop video games and video game consoles (until philips, a dutch company, bought magnavox in 1974) until 1983 when nintendo got in the game (no pun intended). that means that the USA not only invented the video game industry, but held it for 25 YEARS!!! so really, the USA is the HOMELAND of video games, not japan.

back on topic. most ps3 only devs say this about all their projects/games until they port their game over to another console or turn it into a multiplat game. example, dmc4. or a game is hyped only to be downgraded to a multiplayer download which lacks a single player feature. example warhawk.

konami makes games for all platforms...

amazing how you avoided everything i said and said something completely arbitrary, and yes i now that but konami always had better releases on the playstation brand (because it sold the most units, just like the 360 now). 

[QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

Rougehunter

xbox wasn't the former market leader. guess who was?

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

NobuoMusicMaker

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

to the ps3's cooling unit:

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

That looks mighty awesome. Never see that component of the PS3 innards opened up.

i know. for all the quarrels i have with the sony brand in general (well not so much the brand but the arrogant suits running the company), i'm amazed by the amount of engineering that went into the ps3, more specifically how they managed to put a turbine engine into a small enclosure.

[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

latinrage69

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

-Renegade

xbox wasn't the former market leader. guess who was?

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles. 

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

NobuoMusicMaker

xbox wasn't the former market leader. guess who was?

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles. 

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

[QUOTE="KillJeff"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

latinrage69

What does that have to do anything to what I said?

he's saying that just because a console is the most powerful, it may not win. last gen, the xbox was the most powerful and it lost. 

That still didn't have any relative stance to what I said.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

KillJeff

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

that's because ms cheaped out on the cooling unit. compare the xbox 360's heatsink:

active cooling (fan) is always better than passive cooling (heatsink) especially for tight enclosed spaces and with processors that generate massive amounts of heat.

and now i know why my 360 got 3 red lights when pushed the power button for the first time in weeks. 

[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

jsnepo

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

Even with those defective units the 360 sales would have been miles ahead. The defective unit replacment ha nothing to do with the shortage, the problem was one part supply and one part demand. Theres plenty of PS3 supply, has been since shortly after launch, but the demand is not there. 

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="KillJeff"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

KillJeff

What does that have to do anything to what I said?

he's saying that just because a console is the most powerful, it may not win. last gen, the xbox was the most powerful and it lost.

That still didn't have any relative stance to what I said.

yes it does, you're just not seeing it clearly so let me explain it more carefully. if a dev is creating a game for the most powerful console, they will be more involved in having the game feature more effects. that takes a lot of time to do, especially for a new console. that time could be better spent creating several games, while not visually stimulating, it manages to sell tons and push console sales further which means that devs will make more of the same type of game. just look at the wii. the wii is a joke of console but manages to sell millions of consoles by marketing inferior looking games at a lower cost to them and in a shorter time frame, thus having the ability to make several games for more profit. sony didn't help matters much when they gave devs SDK's and tools that where as learn as they were to develop for. most devs hail ms for the ease of use of the xbox 360 tools. the tools are actually so easy to use that ms licences the tools to individuals for $100 a year to develop their own games to be sold on the live marketplace, ie the user created games/content. 

[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="ForTheNguyen"][QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Honestly whats it basically saying is they dont have any console preference as all 3 have thier issues. Sales of the PS3 arent likely to spike in the recent future so I dont imagine thats gonna help. 360 has the same situation in the Homeland and the japanese eat these kinds of games up. So it leaves it to the wii which would lack the next gen graphics.

This is probably gonna be a conintinuing issue for alot of developers if it keeps up. They will be forced to make tough choices cause next gen budgets cost alot to try and recover on poor selling consoles

hazuki87

the ps3 is selling just as well (and someweeks ever better than) as the xbox360 in the same time frame.

if it continues the same pattern, it'll mimick the 360 in sales, plus or minus.

i'm optimistic about the ps3, it'll pick up sooner or later but not too late

See the thing is though there were massive shortages of the 360 for many months after its release. I couldn't get one untill February. Whereas the PS3 is sitting on shelves and theres plenty of supply. Big difference there.

Yup. There were. And there were also defective units that need to be replaced... up to now.

Even with those defective units the 360 sales would have been miles ahead. The defective unit replacment ha nothing to do with the shortage, the problem was one part supply and one part demand. Theres plenty of PS3 supply, has been since shortly after launch, but the demand is not there. 

You actually believe the 3% failure rate? Its way more that that.

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="KillJeff"]

The PS3 is a powerhouse. All developers know it.

-Renegade

xbox wasn't the former market leader. guess who was?

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing. 

Things are starting to look good for the ps3.greenleaf2000

not in the slightest. 

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

latinrage69

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing. 

dude over time the tech will be outdated no matter what. ps3 is built with the cell a very powerful cpu, rsx, hdmi, blu ray, and a hdd standard. the console was built with the future in mind as the things will be a nesecity with anyone with an hdtv. cell + rsx will outperform anything the 360 will be able to do anyway so i dont see what your point was with that.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

-Renegade

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing.

dude over time the tech will be outdated no matter what. ps3 is built with the cell a very powerful cpu, rsx, hdmi, blu ray, and a hdd standard. the console was built with the future in mind as the things will be a nesecity with anyone with an hdtv. cell + rsx will outperform anything the 360 will be able to do anyway so i dont see what your point was with that.

His point was two copy and paste technical talk from some Microsoft forum so he can confuse you, but in the end, Konami says PS3 is the best. 

[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

-Renegade

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing.

dude over time the tech will be outdated no matter what. ps3 is built with the cell a very powerful cpu, rsx, hdmi, blu ray, and a hdd standard. the console was built with the future in mind as the things will be a nesecity with anyone with an hdtv. cell + rsx will outperform anything the 360 will be able to do anyway so i dont see what your point was with that.

of course over time all tech becomes outdated but when the ps3 shipped , it came out with a last gen gpu because the geforce 8 series had launched 6 months earlier. the xenos came out with a prototype R600 which only launched last week. that means the xbox gpu more advanced because its pc counterpart launched a year after the console version where as the ps3 launched with a 1 or 2 year old gpu. that means it is inherently inferior.

the cell is a powerful processor for video processing but it's s--- for gaming. gaming requires general purpose processors which the 360 has three of and the ps3 only has one of.

blu-ray, while it has a large capacity, is also crap for gaming. the capacity was actually ofset by the slow transfer rate compared to the 360's 12x dvd drive. that's why the ps3 needs to have an HDD as a standard. the transfers are too slow and the would have caused huge load time, so to compensate, the game install essential info on the HDD (5GB+) and the loads are lower. that or, the dev can copy the entire game to several parts of the disk thus avoiding long loads and skipping the HDD install.

sony pulled off the biggest irony so far this gen. they boasted about being able to play games at 1080p @ 60fps, they include an hdmi slot, they include a blu-ray player, but they only include SD composite cables and require the consumer to either purchase ps3 branded HD component cables or a ps3 branded hdmi cable. basically, while the console is capable of HD out of the box, the user can't experience HD at all unless they pony up and buy HD cable from sony.

the ps3 is not future proof in any way because even sony is working on a new optical media format. holographic disks.  sony knows blu-ray is a ddead format and are now looking to the future once again for another proprietary format to screw the consumer out of hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

I'm praying that SH5 is multi-plat for 360. If it's a timed exclusive that's cool, I can wait. But if it's not, I'll have to buy a PS3.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

NobuoMusicMaker

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing.

dude over time the tech will be outdated no matter what. ps3 is built with the cell a very powerful cpu, rsx, hdmi, blu ray, and a hdd standard. the console was built with the future in mind as the things will be a nesecity with anyone with an hdtv. cell + rsx will outperform anything the 360 will be able to do anyway so i dont see what your point was with that.

His point was two copy and paste technical talk from some Microsoft forum so he can confuse you, but in the end, Konami says PS3 is the best.

my point was to inform him of the truth and judging by your posts in this thread, you should be the last one to talk about technical aspects. what konami said was that the ps3 was the best for this particluar game, not the all around best console.

get your facts straight or get out.

I'm praying that SH5 is multi-plat for 360. If it's a timed exclusive that's cool, I can wait. But if it's not, I'll have to buy a PS3.

soulsofblayck

it'll probably be a timed exclusive like SH2. i wouldn't be surprised. 

[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]Things are starting to look good for the ps3.latinrage69

not in the slightest.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]Things are starting to look good for the ps3.greenleaf2000

not in the slightest.

not even a $200 price drop can save sony this fall with the onslaught of halo 3, mass effect, and an xbox price drop. 

my point was to inform him of the truth and judging by your posts in this thread, you should be the last one to talk about technical aspects. what konami said was that the ps3 was the best for this particluar game, not the all around best console.

get your facts straight or get out.

latinrage69

Hmm that's why Winning Eleven is getting the best version.  That's why Kojima has MGS4 exclusive to PS3.  That's why Masashi Tsuboyama made the statement he made.

Why don't you go convince game developers your "facts" because looking up wiki doesn't make you a game developer. 

no limits???? that meanz we can play real life now on PS3!

seriously though, that's cool; I hope the PS3 really shows it's power sometime soon with a Gears of War that doesn't have exclusively small, closed environments (it's really no wonder why the resolution is sharp). 

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

Xbox was a miniupgrade from the PS2 and this gen has a lot more architecture differences in the consoles.

latinrage69

I agree. ps3 is just a better all around designed next generation console. its built for the future.

not true. the cell broadband engine was originally designed to process video files, hence the fact that vector processors are used (the spu's or spe's). the spe's cannot handle general purpose processes on its own and has to be told what to do, also known as brach prediction. this creates a bottleneck for the cell's 1 logical core, the power pc, because it has to process the branching first, then output the information to the spe's to calculate the info. the logical doesn't fully process the info, it merely reads the incoming info and sends it out to be processed.

the RSX was actually based on the geforce 7800gt, a last gen gpu which is indeed inferior to the xenos but only slightly. the xenos features few DX10 api's and hardware implantation's (for instance, unified pipelines). the xenos is lacking geometry shaders which may the only or the biggest factor that is holding the xenos from being fully DX10 complaint. the rsx is dx9 compliant but relies on opengl es for programming.

the only thing future proof in the ps3 is the blu-ray drive but even that has a 50-50 chance of losing.

dude over time the tech will be outdated no matter what. ps3 is built with the cell a very powerful cpu, rsx, hdmi, blu ray, and a hdd standard. the console was built with the future in mind as the things will be a nesecity with anyone with an hdtv. cell + rsx will outperform anything the 360 will be able to do anyway so i dont see what your point was with that.

of course over time all tech becomes outdated but when the ps3 shipped , it came out with a last gen gpu because the geforce 8 series had launched 6 months earlier. the xenos came out with a prototype R600 which only launched last week. that means the xbox gpu more advanced because its pc counterpart launched a year after the console version where as the ps3 launched with a 1 or 2 year old gpu. that means it is inherently inferior.

the cell is a powerful processor for video processing but it's s--- for gaming. gaming requires general purpose processors which the 360 has three of and the ps3 only has one of.

blu-ray, while it has a large capacity, is also crap for gaming. the capacity was actually ofset by the slow transfer rate compared to the 360's 12x dvd drive. that's why the ps3 needs to have an HDD as a standard. the transfers are too slow and the would have caused huge load time, so to compensate, the game install essential info on the HDD (5GB+) and the loads are lower. that or, the dev can copy the entire game to several parts of the disk thus avoiding long loads and skipping the HDD install.

sony pulled off the biggest irony so far this gen. they boasted about being able to play games at 1080p @ 60fps, they include an hdmi slot, they include a blu-ray player, but they only include SD composite cables and require the consumer to either purchase ps3 branded HD component cables or a ps3 branded hdmi cable. basically, while the console is capable of HD out of the box, the user can't experience HD at all unless they pony up and buy HD cable from sony.

the ps3 is not future proof in any way because even sony is working on a new optical media format. holographic disks.  sony knows blu-ray is a ddead format and are now looking to the future once again for another proprietary format to screw the consumer out of hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

Cell = All Purpose processor

meaning?

Cell = GPU/CPU
(in terms of general purpose processors, cell is good but not good as the 360s)
Cell can also work along side of the RSX meaning more flexibility/functionality

meaning?

Cell can do HDR while leaving RSX more processing power to do other stuff.
Cell combined with the RSX can do complex shading techniques like geometry shading, which the 360 lacks.
Cell with its many spes can do complex phyics that surpasses the 360s 3 core.

in the end PS3>360

oh yea the R600 is pos cant even beat the 8800gts which was released when last nov? LOL

"the cell is a powerful processor for video processing" ????????? LOL CELL IS MENT FOR EVERYTHING! gosh

I don't know. The GPU isn't that powerful, some say it's not even more powerful than X-box 360' GPU so how can the CPU show its true power when another important hardware piece will start to handicap the other?Supafly1

You do know that current GPUS are limited by the CPU?
even the 360s GPU is limited by the 3 cores. you can still push out more power if you put a faster CPU in there.

cell no one knows yet? wait and see?lol