Silicon Knights gets a VP, hands sharp swords to employees

Pretty funny. I would like to use this opportunity to ask SW members; Do you think the planned trilogy of Too Human will come to fruition or have we seen the first and last of Too Human ?

Me, I sure hope a sequel is in the works and feel pretty confident that SK, after stumbling a bit with the first one could really bring the game up to snuff for the second chapter and deliver a greater gaming experience.

For the record, IMO, Too Human was at least a 7.5 and maybe a 8.0 so yeah, it's a good game. :P

Your Thoughts ?

Silicon Knights has hired financial sector veteran Michael Mays as the company's new vice president. Mays now has the extraordinary job of working intimately with the company's outspoken president and founder Denis Dyack.

It isn't known if Mays had to go through an elaborate hazing ritual, however it appears as if he'll fit right in with the Ontario studio. Edge reported that one of the Mays' first acts as vice president was to hand out battle swords to nine members of Silicon Knights who had weathered a decade of Too Human, Dyack, and Canada. The swords are as deadly as a NeoGAF thread on the ego. They are described as "battle-ready" which means if one of the nineteen people at SK has a really bad day, he or she could get national news attention.

Michael Mays (sadly) doesn't promote or OxyClean, Orange Glo or have a funny excited voice.

These are the guys who found it hard to use the Unreal Engine right? If there will be a trilogy, my expectations of these guys are low.Master-Thief-09

[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]These are the guys who found it hard to use the Unreal Engine right? If there will be a trilogy, my expectations of these guys are low.SecretPolice

Same here! I want to fight whatever that was at the end with Loki :P

And to be fair Master-Thief-09... SK aren't the only ones with trouble using the Unreal Engine... Bioware, Square Enix,...

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]These are the guys who found it hard to use the Unreal Engine right? If there will be a trilogy, my expectations of these guys are low.spinecaton

Same here! I want to fight whatever that was at the end with Loki :P

And to be fair Master-Thief-09... SK aren't the only ones with trouble using the Unreal Engine... Bioware, Square Enix,...

too human is a god awefull game, one of the worst ive played this gen in fact, but theres just something about it i cant explain that makes me want more. it rarely leaves my disc tray to be honest.SmokeyMcMuffin

What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?Zhengi

Majority of the people that did buy Too Human enjoyed it a lot, fix some issues and it would sell even more.

What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?Zhengi

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?spinecaton

Majority of the people that did buy Too Human enjoyed it a lot, fix some issues and it would sell even more.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?spinecaton

Majority of the people that did buy Too Human enjoyed it a lot, fix some issues and it would sell even more.

Majority of the people that did buy Too Human enjoyed it a lot, fix some issues and it would sell even more.

spinecaton

Just because a few people enjoyed it doesn't mean that a second one would sell more.

Umm b/c thus far this gen, it's a one of a kind type game tha that many enjoyed in spite of some flaws. Now, bring a sequel into the mix that is done just right, scores AAA and not only will that sell but many will want the first one Too ( pun intended :P) !

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

SecretPolice

What makes you think it would sell? You have games like Dead Space and Mirror's Edge that scored well that didn't sell. People will go with what's hot and games like Too Human will get squeezed out.

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"] Just because a few people enjoyed it doesn't mean that a second one would sell more. [QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?Zhengi

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?SecretPolice

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?Zhengi

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?Javy03

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

t's called a Win, Win situation but again, that being predicated on the second one winning high praise and high scores. :)

IMO, it's the best way to recoup some loses accrued from the first one.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?gamefan67

EDIT: After a bit more thought, don't bother b/c 3 to 4 million sellers that you consider craptastic is 3 to 4 TOO many. :P

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]Umm b/c thus far this gen, it's a one of a kind type game tha that many enjoyed in spite of some flaws. Now, bring a sequel into the mix that is done just right, scores AAA and not only will that sell but many will want the first one Too ( pun intended :P) !

Have you even tried Too Human ? For extra credit - How many dozens of craptastic games on Wii sold millions ? :o

jg4xchamp

Dead Space and Mirror's Edge flopped sales wise. They were supposed to be EA's big holiday games and they flopped badly saleswise. After those two games were released, EA's CEO came out and forecasted that they would have a poor fiscal quarter, and a few months later, they confirmed it with losses up to $610 million.

TBH, I think but can't prove many enjoyed and are still enjoying the game despite some flaws, My theory is very simple and surprised it escapes you. :P Make a second one doing things just right ( learned from the first ) and not only will that game sell well but as I said, so TOO will the first T.H.

t's called a Win, Win situation but again, that being predicated on the second one winning high praise and high scores. :)

IMO, it's the best way to recoup some loses accrued from the first one.

SecretPolice

This is a case where it's easier said then done. Killzone 2 took a buy out, tons of money and support and a new generation to build up from what it was. Too human sucked even though it had all the money and support it could ever need. And with a trilogy in mind for the 360 they don't have much time to start from scratch. I see more of the same for the next if there is one.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Zhengi"] What makes you think it would sell? You have games like Dead Space and Mirror's Edge that scored well that didn't sell. People will go with what's hot and games like Too Human will get squeezed out.Zhengi

Dead Space and Mirror's Edge flopped sales wise. They were supposed to be EA's big holiday games and they flopped badly saleswise. After those two games were released, EA's CEO came out and forecasted that they would have a poor fiscal quarter, and a few months later, they confirmed it with losses up to $610 million.

Very few garbage games have sold well,(no i don't want to here how Halo 3 and COD 4 suck and sold well) I want a true CRAPPY GAME selling well....I think this gen we have had less garbage sell...that wasn't a licensejg4xchamp

I want another SK game but something more like Eternal Darkness then Too Human

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]TBH, I think but can't prove many enjoyed and are still enjoying the game despite some flaws, My theory is very simple and surprised it escapes you. :P Make a second one doing things just right ( learned from the first ) and not only will that game sell well but as I said, so TOO will the first T.H.

t's called a Win, Win situation but again, that being predicated on the second one winning high praise and high scores. :)

IMO, it's the best way to recoup some loses accrued from the first one.

Javy03

This is a case where it's easier said then done. Killzone 2 took a buy out, tons of money and support and a new generation to build up from what it was. Too human sucked even though it had all the money and support it could ever need. And with a trilogy in mind for the 360 they don't have much time to start from scratch. I see more of the same for the next if there is one.

Big fail bringing KZ & KZ2 into the mix since those have nothing in common with the T.H. scenario where both or all three will be deved for the same system as the first. Very unlike the KZ series.

Tons of flaws & riddled with flaws is an exaggeration of mega proportions my friend. :P

I know you have no love for the game, the dev nor the system but you are truly barking up the wrong tree here.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]What makes you think a second Too Human game would even sell?spinecaton

Majority of the people that did buy Too Human enjoyed it a lot, fix some issues and it would sell even more.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

dead space sales were solid and Mirrors Edge didn't live up to its own hype.
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But assuming Too Human 2 could sell really well If we throw it in with the action crowd Ninja Gaiden 2 and Devil May Cry 4 both did fantastic(both games were letdowns compared to there prequals)

If we throw it in with WRPG crowd- Mass Effect, Fallout 3, etc
So it has the "Potential" to sell well.... IT has to
-Be marketed very well(don't know if Microsoft will still publish and market the game)
-Be a good gamejg4xchamp

Dead Space and Mirror's Edge flopped sales wise. They were supposed to be EA's big holiday games and they flopped badly saleswise. After those two games were released, EA's CEO came out and forecasted that they would have a poor fiscal quarter, and a few months later, they confirmed it with losses up to $610 million.

Where did I say it did garbage? The sales did not meet expectations. That is a flop in sales in my book. A game needs to at least break even to be considered a success. And even though there might be few bad games that sold well, there have been good games that underperformed. That's why I brought up Dead Space and Mirror's Edge. Can you prove that all good games sell well on the PS3/360? I already brought up two examples that go contrary to what anyone is claiming in this thread.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Very few garbage games have sold well,(no i don't want to here how Halo 3 and COD 4 suck and sold well) I want a true CRAPPY GAME selling well....I think this gen we have had less garbage sell...that wasn't a licenseJavy03

If GG could do a turn around I am sure they can to. Only time will tell.jakarai

It was the opposite of Oblivion, which at its core was crap, but that was obscured by the apparent goodness of its shell.

If SK makes a sequel and can fix the few problems with TH (shouldn't be too hard :P ), it will be a truly awesome game.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Dead Space and Mirror's Edge flopped sales wise. They were supposed to be EA's big holiday games and they flopped badly saleswise. After those two games were released, EA's CEO came out and forecasted that they would have a poor fiscal quarter, and a few months later, they confirmed it with losses up to $610 million.

Zhengi

Where did I say it did garbage? The sales did not meet expectations. That is a flop in sales in my book. A game needs to at least break even to be considered a success. And even though there might be few bad games that sold well, there have been good games that underperformed. That's why I brought up Dead Space and Mirror's Edge. Can you prove that all good games sell well on the PS3/360? I already brought up two examples that go contrary to what anyone is claiming in this thread.

Pretty funny. I would like to use this opportunity to ask SW members; Do you think the planned trilogy of Too Human will come to fruition or have we seen the first and last of Too Human ?

Me, I sure hope a sequel is in the works and feel pretty confident that SK, after stumbling a bit with the first one could really bring the game up to snuff for the second chapter and deliver a greater gaming experience.

For the record, IMO, Too Human was at least a 7.5 and maybe a 8.0 so yeah, it's a good game. :P

Your Thoughts ?

Silicon Knights has hired financial sector veteran Michael Mays as the company's new vice president. Mays now has the extraordinary job of working intimately with the company's outspoken president and founder Denis Dyack.

It isn't known if Mays had to go through an elaborate hazing ritual, however it appears as if he'll fit right in with the Ontario studio. Edge reported that one of the Mays' first acts as vice president was to hand out battle swords to nine members of Silicon Knights who had weathered a decade of Too Human, Dyack, and Canada. The swords are as deadly as a NeoGAF thread on the ego. They are described as "battle-ready" which means if one of the nineteen people at SK has a really bad day, he or she could get national news attention.

Michael Mays (sadly) doesn't promote or OxyClean, Orange Glo or have a funny excited voice.

SecretPolice

NOOoooooo more Too human, work on an ED 2 :(SAGE_OF_FIRE

Nah, Nope, not even a maybe. :P Too Human would not, NOT require a ground up rebuild - same coding where much was no doubt learned as the first was made for 360 and the second will benefit from that experience.

Big fail bringing KZ & KZ2 into the mix since those have nothing in common with the T.H. scenario where both or all three will be deved for the same system as the first. Very unlike the KZ series.

Tons of flaws & riddled with flaws is an exaggeration of mega proportions my friend. :P

I know you have no love for the game, the dev nor the system but you are truly barking up the wrong tree here.

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] like i said...Dead Space didn't do "garbage" it did average...and Mirrors Edge for an innovative game was an average game at best...ofcourse it was going to flop in sales. What Bad game has sold this gen? that isn't on the Wii...i really want to know what "bad" game has sold on the 360/PS3. Lair Haze Too Human Infinite Undiscoverey etc all flopped miserably in sales. Where as alot of good games have enjoyed some success this gen....All be it yes...we also have some games that struggled to sell(Viva Pinata series).


also I apologize for not fixing the post...but this HTML error crap is just annoying.jg4xchamp

Where did I say it did garbage? The sales did not meet expectations. That is a flop in sales in my book. A game needs to at least break even to be considered a success. And even though there might be few bad games that sold well, there have been good games that underperformed. That's why I brought up Dead Space and Mirror's Edge. Can you prove that all good games sell well on the PS3/360? I already brought up two examples that go contrary to what anyone is claiming in this thread.

What are you basing it on that Too Human 2 will be a good seller? This was my initial question in my first post. I haven't seen any arguments from anyone that would point to Too Human 2 being that big of a seller.

If a sequel is in the works, I will have to buy and beat the original sooner. I've been holding off from buying it although I do want to play it. Seemed like it would be fun. Zassimick

I like TH and ED.

And I really love the control in TH.

I like TH and ED.

And I really love the control in TH.

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