similiarities between the PS3 and N64

N64

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hated developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rated
• a crap controller (weird design that was unsuitable for many genres, too big)

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control)

Differences

• the PS3 gets crap versions of multiplatform games while the N64 got nothing.
• The N64 was profitable while PS3 has also lost all of sony's profits from the PS1/PS2/PSP making their entry into gaming pointless.
• Games dont sell on the PS3 whereas they sold well on N64

does anyone else see it?

erm the n64 was 200$ while the others were 300, and the saturn was 400 at launch.

Why do you hate the PS3 so much anyways ?

rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatGiancar

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatritz2

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the ps3 has already outsold the n64 :/

Hmm maybe that's why I love both :roll:.

Crap controller? That's subjective, the PS controller is perfect in my opinion and there's no reason to change what works so well.

The N64 had a weird but very functional controller, easily the best for FPS on consoles yet.

The PS3 doesn't have crap 3rd party support.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatritz2

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[QUOTE="ritz2"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatVendettaRed07

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the ps3 has already outsold the n64 :/

You know, that might be because more people are playing vidya than in 1996. Oh, and the PS3 is still at the bottom sales wise.

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen. Not at all. It might be last in the console race but it's still selling and it will eventually catch up to the competition in terms of sales.
• way overpriced compared to its competitors That might of been true when the PS3 first came out. Right now it's very affordable and worth every penny and reliable.
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture Only the lazy ones.
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate I don't know where you've been living these past few years but the PS3 has a lot of exclusives now.
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control) Nice opinion. I think the Dual Shock 3 is a great controller and it does have triggers. I agree the motion sensing is a piece of junk and the triggers are a bit slippery. Thats all for flaws.

What a troll...

What a troll...

iKINGBOBi

Nice job throwing that handy little list together. You should get it published

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen. Not at all. It might be last in the console race but it's still selling and it will eventually catch up to the competition in terms of sales. Compared to the PS2, it's a huge failure. Bottom Line.
• way overpriced compared to its competitors That might of been true when the PS3 first came out. Right now it's very affordable and worth every penny and reliable. Wether it's worth the price or not isn't important. The fact is compared to its competition, it's overpriced
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture Only the lazy ones. Not at all. Most third parties find it a chore, which si to be expected. Same with the PS2, but the PS2 had such large marketshare, they didn't complain.
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate I don't know where you've been living these past few years but the PS3 has a lot of exclusives now. True
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control) Nice opinion. I think the Dual Shock 3 is a great controller and it does have triggers. I agree the motion sensing is a piece of junk and the triggers are a bit slippery. Thats all for flaws. The dualshock 3 does not have triggers ... They're not triggers.

Dahaka-UK

N64

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hated developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rated
• a crap controller (weird design that was unsuitable for many genres, too big)

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control)

Differences

• the PS3 gets crap versions of multiplatform games while the N64 got nothing.
• The N64 was profitable while PS3 has also lost all of sony's profits from the PS1/PS2/PSP making their entry into gaming pointless.
• Games dont sell on the PS3 whereas they sold well on N64

does anyone else see it?

hy4k

I believe the main reason third parties disliked the N64 wasn't because of the architecture, but primarily because of the cartridge storage format. It was highly inefficient and difficult to track while CD-ROMs provided a much more efficient way to measure demand and match supply. And generally speaking, I don't think third party devs hate the architecture of the PS3, otherwise they wouldn't develop their games for it and the PS3 actually has a pretty good third party library (unlike the N64, or all Nintendo systems post-SNS, for that matter). And I don't see where you're coming from with the PS3 gets crappy versions of multiplat games. Just because Bayonetta was a bad port hardly makes the PS3 a dumping ground for games. Fallout 3, Rainbow Six, Oblivion, CoD, Mirror's Edge, Dragon Age: Origins (which actually scored higher than the 360 version, albeit less than the PC), GRAW2, Dead Space, AC, AC2, etc. all scored relatively the same as their 360 counterparts. That's pretty blatant ignorance to make that claim.

And who says PS3 games don't sell well? Didn't U2 just clear the 3 million mark not too long back? That == poor sales?

And I wouldn't consider either the N64 or the PS3 huge failures, that's a bit strong-worded. I think it's more apt to say, "underwhelming in contrast to earlier success." I think I would agree with you on the N64 controller == crap, but I think I would be doing it now with the hindsight bias of how good the controllers nowadays are. And IMO, the PS3 controller isn't crap (except for the motion control, I'll give you that), it just isn't as good as the 360 controller yet all the games control extremely well for me.

I'll give you the price argument, since the PS3 WAS significantly more expensive than the X360 and Wii until recently. But now, seeing as an X360 is $250, Wii $200, and the PS3 $300, I don't think it quite applies as much since each console has varying features and capabilities which might warrant now a slight price differentiation, though the initial cost was, granted, much more expensive.

for me the ps3 will live as lesson in the future

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen. Not at all. It might be last in the console race but it's still selling and it will eventually catch up to the competition in terms of sales. Compared to the PS2, it's a huge failure. Bottom Line.
• way overpriced compared to its competitors That might of been true when the PS3 first came out. Right now it's very affordable and worth every penny and reliable. Wether it's worth the price or not isn't important. The fact is compared to its competition, it's overpriced
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture Only the lazy ones. Not at all. Most third parties find it a chore, which si to be expected. Same with the PS2, but the PS2 had such large marketshare, they didn't complain.
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate I don't know where you've been living these past few years but the PS3 has a lot of exclusives now. True
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control) Nice opinion. I think the Dual Shock 3 is a great controller and it does have triggers. I agree the motion sensing is a piece of junk and the triggers are a bit slippery. Thats all for flaws. The dualshock 3 does not have triggers ... They're not triggers.

Yeah, thumbs bumping is ana nnoying feature of the DS3

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rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatGiancar

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatmariokart97

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen. Not at all. It might be last in the console race but it's still selling and it will eventually catch up to the competition in terms of sales. Compared to the PS2, it's a huge failure. Bottom Line. The XBOX360 is a failure compared to the PS2 then.
• way overpriced compared to its competitors That might of been true when the PS3 first came out. Right now it's very affordable and worth every penny and reliable. Wether it's worth the price or not isn't important. The fact is compared to its competition, it's overpriced It comes with more features compared to the XBOX360. The extra cost is perfectly justified.
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture Only the lazy ones. Not at all. Most third parties find it a chore, which si to be expected. Same with the PS2, but the PS2 had such large marketshare, they didn't complain. They find it a chore? Isn't that pretty much the same thing as laziness. Anyway many multiplats have proven to be equal ground to the XBOX360.
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate I don't know where you've been living these past few years but the PS3 has a lot of exclusives now. True True
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control) Nice opinion. I think the Dual Shock 3 is a great controller and it does have triggers. I agree the motion sensing is a piece of junk and the triggers are a bit slippery. Thats all for flaws. The dualshock 3 does not have triggers ... They're not triggers.If the L2 and R2 buttons are not triggers what are they? They are pressure sensitive. They do feel like your pressing down a trigger.

-Snooze-

N64

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hated developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rated
• a crap controller (weird design that was unsuitable for many genres, too big)

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control)

Differences

• the PS3 gets crap versions of multiplatform games while the N64 got nothing.
• The N64 was profitable while PS3 has also lost all of sony's profits from the PS1/PS2/PSP making their entry into gaming pointless.
• Games dont sell on the PS3 whereas they sold well on N64

does anyone else see it?

hy4k

How you fail, let me count the ways.

[QUOTE="mariokart97"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatNintendo_Ownes7

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatmariokart97

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

The PS3 is the N64 of this generation but that's not a bad thing, since I loved the first and second party titles for the N64.

Both used formats that derailed their respective companies dominant marketshare.

Received inferior multiplats despite being the "superior" console.

And both rely heavily on strong 1st-2nd party exclusives to make up for short comings.

Received inferior multiplats despite being the "superior" console.InfinityMugen

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="ritz2"]

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ritz2

the ps3 has already outsold the n64 :/

You know, that might be because more people are playing vidya than in 1996. Oh, and the PS3 is still at the bottom sales wise.

The psone sold 100 million units....

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]Received inferior multiplats despite being the "superior" console.Giancar

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen. Not at all. It might be last in the console race but it's still selling and it will eventually catch up to the competition in terms of sales. Compared to the PS2, it's a huge failure. Bottom Line. The XBOX360 is a failure compared to the PS2 then.
• way overpriced compared to its competitors That might of been true when the PS3 first came out. Right now it's very affordable and worth every penny and reliable. Wether it's worth the price or not isn't important. The fact is compared to its competition, it's overpriced It comes with more features compared to the XBOX360. The extra cost is perfectly justified.
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture Only the lazy ones. Not at all. Most third parties find it a chore, which si to be expected. Same with the PS2, but the PS2 had such large marketshare, they didn't complain. They find it a chore? Isn't that pretty much the same thing as laziness. Anyway many multiplats have proven to be equal ground to the XBOX360.
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate I don't know where you've been living these past few years but the PS3 has a lot of exclusives now. True True
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control) Nice opinion. I think the Dual Shock 3 is a great controller and it does have triggers. I agree the motion sensing is a piece of junk and the triggers are a bit slippery. Thats all for flaws. The dualshock 3 does not have triggers ... They're not triggers.If the L2 and R2 buttons are not triggers what are they? They are pressure sensitive. They do feel like your pressing down a trigger.

Dahaka-UK

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatmariokart97

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

[QUOTE="mariokart97"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]rofl the n64 was cheap, the tech it used (media format) was outdated, PS3 multipats are equal to it's counterpart (I can count the really bad ports of multis easily with one hand), and the n64 sold crap while the ps3 is selling greatEasyle

So if the Nintendo 64 comes in 2nd place in sales, and the Playstaition 3 is in 3rd right now then the Playstation 3sells better?

Yeah, but the N64 was amazing. The PS3 is great, but I wouldn't say amazing.

N64

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hated developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rated
• a crap controller (weird design that was unsuitable for many genres, too big)

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control)

Differences

• the PS3 gets crap versions of multiplatform games while the N64 got nothing.
• The N64 was profitable while PS3 has also lost all of sony's profits from the PS1/PS2/PSP making their entry into gaming pointless.
• Games dont sell on the PS3 whereas they sold well on N64

does anyone else see it?

hy4k

n64 was amazing had a bunch of kickass games.

nintendo died after n64...gamecube sucked and wii sucks/sucked

The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Star Fox 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario 64, Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2, Pokemon Snap, Mario Party, and Banjo Kazooie and Tooie all say that the N64 was amazing.

nintendo died after n64...gamecube sucked and wii sucks/sucked

yoyofroyoyoyo

and yet people here said that the Gamecube was awesome.

The PS3 has better 3rd party support than the Wii. So in that regard, it's not in the same boat as the N64.

N64

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hated developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rated
• a crap controller (weird design that was unsuitable for many genres, too big)

PS3

• a huge failure coming of the most successful console of the previous gen
• way overpriced compared to its competitors
• third parties hate developing on it because of the crappy architecture
• very few exclusives but those it gets tended to be high rate
• a crap controller (outdated 15 year old PS1 joypad with spongy analogues, no triggers and half assed motion control)

Differences

• the PS3 gets crap versions of multiplatform games while the N64 got nothing.
• The N64 was profitable while PS3 has also lost all of sony's profits from the PS1/PS2/PSP making their entry into gaming pointless.
• Games dont sell on the PS3 whereas they sold well on N64

does anyone else see it?

hy4k

I completely disagree with your opinion on the N64 controller. It may look slightly strange with it's 3 pronged design but it was, and imo still is, one of the most versatile and certainly most comfortable controllers to use that has ever been created. It had the d-pad and all the face and shoulder buttons of all the previous gen controllers incorporated into it's design and could easily be held and used just like a regular NES or SNES pad, so it was perfect for playing any kind of game from any generation up until that point. The introduction of the analog stick meant it could offer a degree of control far beyond any previous generation controller designs and it really made playing games in 3D truly possible for the first time. Other features like the trigger button positioned perfectly under the index finger, perfect for all types of shooting games, and the introduction of the rumble pack meant it was a far more immersive control experience than anything that had come before it. It was even possible to dual wield the controller in certain FPS games, see the Goldeneye/Perfect Dark dual control options, and it was by far one of the most versatile controllers. To say it was unsuitable for many genres is just plain ignorant.

Why do you hate the PS3 so much anyways ?

DarKnLiTe

What a trainwreck of an opening post. Fail TC fail...

Great job tc your useing opinion as fact. You are being taken less seriously everyday.