Skyrim leaked, pirares are getting it early

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#1 HaloinventedFPS
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Skyrim is now on Xbox 360, nearly 2 weeks early

but of course since only PC gamers pirate, no one will say anything

we all know if this was the PC version that got leaked, Bethesda would be crying how PC pirates are hurting them and how PC gaming is dying etc etc

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#2 tenaka2
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Skyrim is now on Xbox 360, nearly 2 weeks early

but of course since only PC gamers pirate, no one will say anything

we all know if this was the PC version that got leaked, Bethesda would be crying how PC pirates are hurting them and how PC gaming is dying etc etc

HaloinventedFPS

If we go by SW logic this mean that all 360 owners are pirates.... but of course we shall not as that would be ridiculous.

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#3 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Skyrim is now on Xbox 360, nearly 2 weeks early

but of course since only PC gamers pirate, no one will say anything

we all know if this was the PC version that got leaked, Bethesda would be crying how PC pirates are hurting them and how PC gaming is dying etc etc

tenaka2

If we go by SW logic this mean that all 360 owners are pirates.... but of course we shall not as that would be ridiculous.

by SW logic all PC gamers are pirates

when Halo reach got leaked over a month early, no one said anything, when a unplayable copy of Crysis 2 got leaked a month early, it was the worst thing ever

hypocrisy at its finest, i have more examples of course

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#5 TheShadowLord07
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I know that console games can get pirate but dont you need a modded/hack console to that? i mean it easy to pirate game, just donwload it and install. but with xbox games you need a modded console, and not sure the majority of console owners know something about that
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#6 Just-Breathe
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Haha, OP just about summed it up perfectly.
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#7 Harisemo
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had this been a PC leak you wouldn't make this thread. Why do hermits act like console pirating is on same level as pc pirating?

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#8 tenaka2
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had this been a PC leak you wouldn't make this thread. Why do hermits act like console pirating is on same level as pc pirating?

Harisemo

he wouldnt needed to have made the thread if it was a PC leaka console fanboi would have.

Plus console piracy combined with used game sales is just as bad for the console market.

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#9 Arach666
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had this been a PC leak you wouldn't make this thread.

Harisemo

No,you probably would though.

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#10 dommeus
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So the pirates will be disappointed a week or so earlier than everyone else. Oh noes.

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#11 WithoutGraceXII
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Anyone who thinks piracy isn't a problem on every platform isn't worth your time arguing with. So don't worry about them.
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#12 Masculus
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I think it is a good thing. It is getting really hard to make an informed purchased of a video game product, reviewers are either incompetent or are acting on bad faith by ommiting technical flaws or many other issues with big franchises. At least the pirates post in youtube, so this waywe can see for ourselves if the game is worth it or not. I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

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I think it is a good thing. It is getting really hard to make an informed purchased of a video game product, reviewers are either incompetent or are acting on bad faith by ommiting technical flaws or many other issues with big franchises. At least the pirates post in youtube, so this waywe can see for ourselves if the game is worth it or not. I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

Masculus

Piracy is a good thing?

.... what on earth are you talking about? :|

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#14 jer_1
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So now you all know where to look for an early review, a piratey place in the bay where everyone yells YARRRR! :P

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I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

Masculus

There was a leak for Crysis 2 if that's what you mean by C2.

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#16 IcyToasters
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I was going to say how lucky Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta were, but that it was a strange choice on Bethesda/Zenimax's part.

I thought the topic title was about Skyrim being leaked, but on a bright side the prairies getting an early release...

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#17 MlauTheDaft
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Sony probably got Bethesda hacked and then the PC pirates pirated the game to play on their stolen 360s.

Edit:

And ironic as it is, pirates do tend to be more honest reviewers than reviewers are :P Guess there really is a positive side to everything.

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#18 Masculus
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[QUOTE="Masculus"]

I think it is a good thing. It is getting really hard to make an informed purchased of a video game product, reviewers are either incompetent or are acting on bad faith by ommiting technical flaws or many other issues with big franchises. At least the pirates post in youtube, so this waywe can see for ourselves if the game is worth it or not. I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

harshv82

Piracy is a good thing?

.... what on earth are you talking about? :|

All i'm saying is that at least we get better information on how the game is, rather than getting it al through deceiving PR and their advertisers (that is, all those websites like this one).

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#19 Masculus
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[QUOTE="Masculus"]

I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

KiZZo1

There was a leak for Crysis 2 if that's what you mean by C2.

Yup. It did help making an informed decision in the end. I remember there was zero information about the PC version before it showed up.

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#20 screamingdoom
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Who leaks these games and what do they get out of it?
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#21 lbjkurono23
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Pirare is out of control on the 360, thats a fact.
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#22 chaoz-king
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Oh snap a game got pirated early.
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Who leaks these games and what do they get out of it? screamingdoom

Likely someone at the disc manufacturing plant. Its where most leaks happen followed by an incomplete review copy getting leaked by smaller review website.

What do they get out of it? The reasons are different in every case. It might just be something as a perceived slight from the developers or a case of self-entitlement.

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#24 RyuRanVII
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Filthy PC pirates!

Oh, wait! :P

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I know that console games can get pirate but dont you need a modded/hack console to that? i mean it easy to pirate game, just donwload it and install. but with xbox games you need a modded console, and not sure the majority of console owners know something about thatTheShadowLord07
I think every single person with a PS1 had it chipped. Although PS2 didn't have as much, and the PS3 doesn't really have many.

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#26 screamingdoom
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[QUOTE="screamingdoom"]Who leaks these games and what do they get out of it? XaosII

Likely someone at the disc manufacturing plant. Its where most leaks happen followed by an incomplete review copy getting leaked by smaller review website.

What do they get out of it? The reasons are different in every case. It might just be something as a perceived slight from the developers or a case of self-entitlement.

Ah OK thanks for telling me that
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#27 Planeforger
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Chances are that the leaked copy is a special anti-pirate version, with broken animations, fake amateur voice acting, and constant crashes.

Might as well wait for the full game, which...totally won't have any of that. Hm.

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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]I know that console games can get pirate but dont you need a modded/hack console to that? i mean it easy to pirate game, just donwload it and install. but with xbox games you need a modded console, and not sure the majority of console owners know something about thatgameofthering

I think every single person with a PS1 had it chipped. Although PS2 didn't have as much, and the PS3 doesn't really have many.

PS2 had even more piracy than PS1

at least over here in Australia

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A big budget highly anticipated game got leaked?? :o

But seriously, the game will be a bugged/glitched mess so until its patched everyone will be getting an unpolished product :P

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[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]I know that console games can get pirate but dont you need a modded/hack console to that? i mean it easy to pirate game, just donwload it and install. but with xbox games you need a modded console, and not sure the majority of console owners know something about thatHaloinventedFPS

I think every single person with a PS1 had it chipped. Although PS2 didn't have as much, and the PS3 doesn't really have many.

PS2 had even more piracy than PS1

at least over here in Australia

With the prices you guy's pay I wonder why..... But really to play them is to modify the drive in the 360 to play burnt games.
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#31 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="gameofthering"] I think every single person with a PS1 had it chipped. Although PS2 didn't have as much, and the PS3 doesn't really have many.

04dcarraher

PS2 had even more piracy than PS1

at least over here in Australia

With the prices you guy's pay I wonder why..... But really to play them is to modify the drive in the 360 to play burnt games.

yeah of course, but not for the Wii or PS3

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#32 Deniable_Ops
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Probably got leaked by a PC Gamer.
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#33 jer_1
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Probably got leaked by a PC Gamer.Deniable_Ops

Why wouldn't he/she leak the PC version then? Dangit, it doesn't make sense man!!!

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#34 skrat_01
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The introduction is horrendous. Looks like Bethesda managed to almost outdo Oblivions. Whelp that's the fastest way to put me off a pre order.
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#35 delta3074
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bad news=it's been pirated, good news= it's not the PC version this time so no 'PC gaming is dying threads,' silver lining=feedback on the game leading up to release
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#37 skrat_01
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Chances are that the leaked copy is a special anti-pirate version, with broken animations, fake amateur voice acting, and constant crashes.

Might as well wait for the full game, which...totally won't have any of that. Hm.

Planeforger
For the sake of the game, I hope so. It had the air of a bad junior school production in terms of acting and execution; in the introduction.
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#38 gameguy6700
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Chances are that the leaked copy is a special anti-pirate version, with broken animations, fake amateur voice acting, and constant crashes.

Might as well wait for the full game, which...totally won't have any of that. Hm.

Planeforger
No, with console games the leaks are usually the result of a factory worker sneaking a disc out of the factory, ripping it, and then uploading it to the internet. There's no anti-piracy measures taken with these games other than "it's consoles, no one pirates on consoles, right?" When it isn't the result of a factory worker gone bad, then often the leaks are the result of store employees who get "advance copies" of the game and then upload it. There's a reason why virtually every game leak these days occurs only for the console versions of the games. On PC it's nearly impossible to leak a game early thanks to the prevalence of DD. The only time PC does get leaks is in the very rare cases where a beta gets leaked (such as was the case with Crysis 2 and Deus Ex: HR).
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I know that console games can get pirate but dont you need a modded/hack console to that? i mean it easy to pirate game, just donwload it and install. but with xbox games you need a modded console, and not sure the majority of console owners know something about thatTheShadowLord07
Modding your xbox to play copied games is a fairly simple process actually. Once it's done, playing said copied game(s) is easier than playing them on a PC...common misconception.
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#40 Planeforger
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[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Chances are that the leaked copy is a special anti-pirate version, with broken animations, fake amateur voice acting, and constant crashes.

Might as well wait for the full game, which...totally won't have any of that. Hm.

gameguy6700

No, with console games the leaks are usually the result of a factory worker sneaking a disc out of the factory, ripping it, and then uploading it to the internet. There's no anti-piracy measures taken with these games other than "it's consoles, no one pirates on consoles, right?" When it isn't the result of a factory worker gone bad, then often the leaks are the result of store employees who get "advance copies" of the game and then upload it. There's a reason why virtually every game leak these days occurs only for the console versions of the games. On PC it's nearly impossible to leak a game early thanks to the prevalence of DD. The only time PC does get leaks is in the very rare cases where a beta gets leaked (such as was the case with Crysis 2 and Deus Ex: HR).

Perhaps my sarcasm was a little too subtle.

The leaked footage I've seen had dodgy animations and bland voice acting, and Bethesda invariably crash every fifteen minutes after launch, so I was just making a joke at their expense - 'surely that has to be an anti-piracy measure, since they couldn't be launching the full game with such obvious problems, right?'

Eh, it made more sense in my mind.

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[QUOTE="harshv82"]

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

I think it is a good thing. It is getting really hard to make an informed purchased of a video game product, reviewers are either incompetent or are acting on bad faith by ommiting technical flaws or many other issues with big franchises. At least the pirates post in youtube, so this waywe can see for ourselves if the game is worth it or not. I always hope for an early leak on the PC, that way we don't get screwed up the ass like many games this year (RAGE, C2 etc...).

Masculus

Piracy is a good thing?

.... what on earth are you talking about? :|

All i'm saying is that at least we get better information on how the game is, rather than getting it al through deceiving PR and their advertisers (that is, all those websites like this one).

That's the most asinine logic I've ever heard. Not to mention it's illegal. Pirates should be fined and imprisoned. All of them. By that logic, if you and your neighbor were thinking about buying some new cooking pots/pans, your neighbor should steal them from the store. This way, you both can see how the pots/pans "really" work in the real world and outside of the controlled environment of the store. Only if you like what you see would you go back and bless the company with your money for your own set.
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[QUOTE="Masculus"]

[QUOTE="harshv82"]

Piracy is a good thing?

.... what on earth are you talking about? :|

Bruin1986

All i'm saying is that at least we get better information on how the game is, rather than getting it al through deceiving PR and their advertisers (that is, all those websites like this one).

That's the most asinine logic I've ever heard. Not to mention it's illegal. Pirates should be fined and imprisoned. All of them. By that logic, if you and your neighbor were thinking about buying some new cooking pots/pans, your neighbor should steal them from the store. This way, you both can see how the pots/pans "really" work in the real world and outside of the controlled environment of the store. Only if you like what you see would you go back and bless the company with your money for your own set.

you're missing one small thing cooking pots and pans can't be copied for free...

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oh 360 version boring
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"] you're missing one small thing cooking pots and pans can't be copied for free... That's the most asinine logic I've ever heard. Not to mention it's illegal. Pirates should be fined and imprisoned. All of them. By that logic, if you and your neighbor were thinking about buying some new cooking pots/pans, your neighbor should steal them from the store. This way, you both can see how the pots/pans "really" work in the real world and outside of the controlled environment of the store. Only if you like what you see would you go back and bless the company with your money for your own set.

No, but they can be stolen for free, just as with piracy.
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#45 Bruin1986
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[QUOTE="Bruin1986"][QUOTE="Masculus"]

All i'm saying is that at least we get better information on how the game is, rather than getting it al through deceiving PR and their advertisers (that is, all those websites like this one).

evildead6789

That's the most asinine logic I've ever heard. Not to mention it's illegal. Pirates should be fined and imprisoned. All of them. By that logic, if you and your neighbor were thinking about buying some new cooking pots/pans, your neighbor should steal them from the store. This way, you both can see how the pots/pans "really" work in the real world and outside of the controlled environment of the store. Only if you like what you see would you go back and bless the company with your money for your own set.

you're missing one small thing cooking pots and pans can't be copied for free...

...the only way the massive investment (tens of millions of dollars) can be recuperated by the developer is through sales. Every copy pirated by some human virus is a lost sale for the company, which hurts it's ability to recuperate costs and make the game profitable enough for them to continue the series in to the future with AAA status. When you buy a pot, you are paying for nearly the entire cost of creating that product (material, labor, and research). When you buy a game, you aren't even paying for a fraction of the cost of developing that product. But please, defending pirating in any fashion at all is absurd. It's an insult to the developers who spent years creating the game. Stop pirating, or pretty soon every game is going to be like Crysis 2 instead of Crysis 1.
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#46 Planeforger
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you're missing one small thing cooking pots and pans can't be copied for free...

evildead6789

The ease of the crime doesn't make it any less illegal or immoral. But I agree, the pan example doesn't quite work.

How about this - piracy is like breaking into a cinema and watching a film for free - only to decide later whether or not you'd like to pay to see the film.
It might not be depriving people of their goods, but the filmmakers are selling the right to view their creation, and you are taking that right without paying them what's rightfully theirs.

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#47 Masculus
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[QUOTE="Masculus"]

[QUOTE="harshv82"]

Piracy is a good thing?

.... what on earth are you talking about? :|

Bruin1986

All i'm saying is that at least we get better information on how the game is, rather than getting it all through deceiving PR and their advertisers (that is, all those websites like this one).

That's the most asinine logic I've ever heard. Not to mention it's illegal. Pirates should be fined and imprisoned. All of them. By that logic, if you and your neighbor were thinking about buying some new cooking pots/pans, your neighbor should steal them from the store. This way, you both can see how the pots/pans "really" work in the real world and outside of the controlled environment of the store. Only if you like what you see would you go back and bless the company with your money for your own set.

U mad bro?

I'm not even discussing the act ofpiracy itself, just early leaks. That could happen either by piracy, or by retailers selling it before the release schedule. The fact it improves the amount of information available about a product is an addedbenefit wether you like it or not.

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Console gaming is DYING!!!!
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#49 Am_Confucius
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Console gaming is DYING!!!!ShadowDeathX
Yaaaa! It's totally true this time!
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#50 commander
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

you're missing one small thing cooking pots and pans can't be copied for free...

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The ease of the crime doesn't make it any less illegal or immoral. But I agree, the pan example doesn't quite work.

How about this - piracy is like breaking into a cinema and watching a film for free - only to decide later whether or not you'd like to pay to see the film.
It might not be depriving people of their goods, but the filmmakers are selling the right to view their creation, and you are taking that right without paying them what's rightfully theirs.

Could be but in my country, breaking into a cinema is illegal copying software for personal use and entertainment is not, as long as you don't make a profit with it.