Skyrim Remastered (ps4/Xone)

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#1 danner
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I played Skyrim last gen on the 360 and enjoyed it. I didnt play any of the dlc add ons. Is it worth playing again? The game comes out in a couple of weeks, and Bethesda has yet to show gameplay? Why is this? I dont mind paying the full price if its worth the buy. It seems very shady to have no new videos or anything... Does the game run like total shit or something?

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#2  Edited By navyguy21
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@danner said:

I played Skyrim last gen on the 360 and enjoyed it. I didnt play any of the dlc add ons. Is it worth playing again? The game comes out in a couple of weeks, and Bethesda has yet to show gameplay? Why is this? I dont mind paying the full price if its worth the buy. It seems very shady to have no new videos or anything... Does the game run like total shit or something?

Yea, im curious as to why they havent showed any gameplay as well.

Its weird.

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No gameplay shown because original pc version with mods is the definitive version.

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@slimdogmilionar said:

No gameplay shown because original pc version with mods is the definitive version.

But with the amount of mods it takes to get the game to look like the remaster youd need a upper-mid tier pc.

Not to mention worrying about compatibility and running on an outdated and constrained engine.

At least the remaster starts off with a x64 bit exe (allowing more RAM usage) and easy modding like Fallout 4.

The LAA mods and those like it came with their own set of issues.

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@navyguy21: If Bethesda showed gameplay of the remastered version pc players would just criticize it and compare it to Skyrim with mods. In thinking this is what they wanted to avoid.

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#6  Edited By lamprey263
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Like I said in the last thread, No Man's Skyrim is void of the most basic elements needed for open world RPG's, namely quests. Sure the mechanics and leveling system improved, but at the end of the day when you're stuck killing same autogenerated trolls and dragons or stealing same three items from the same houses, there's just no substance. Skyrim was so bad it makes Oblivion look great.

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Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

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@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

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I'm curious to see why is the pc version is so demanding because it sure as hell doesn't look to be demanding.

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#10 danner
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Hey can one of you guys add a link as to what it will actually look like? I took a look at some modded pc Skyrim vids on youtube and they look too good to be true....

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@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

From a completely objective standpoint, sure, but Oblivion deserves credit for being first. Skyrim was really just Oblivion with better graphics and more stuff. Oblivion felt fresh at launch, and it took me 20 hours or so to really start to sour on it. Skyrim was only fun for about 10 hours or so, but I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't already played Oblivion.

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maybe it's cause it runs at 20-30fps like fallout 4

bethesda's engine is very cpu dependent

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bethesda games on consoles = scam

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@howmakewood said:

bethesda games on consoles = scam

Because people getting hundreds of hours out of the base game makes it a scam. Righhhhhhttttttt.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

From a completely objective standpoint, sure, but Oblivion deserves credit for being first. Skyrim was really just Oblivion with better graphics and more stuff. Oblivion felt fresh at launch, and it took me 20 hours or so to really start to sour on it. Skyrim was only fun for about 10 hours or so, but I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't already played Oblivion.

For me, I played through Morrowind first, and Oblivion was just an awful let down. Skyrim actually improved on things, so I felt that Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion. Oblivion had all of those lazy copy/paste dungeons whereas Skyrim actually seemed to have had some thought put into them. It also had a tiny bit better dialogue, but the voice acting was just as bad, and the dialogue is still mostly boring.

Oblivion also had those special spells that would become useless if you got them at a low level. Had to use a mod to fix that, so the spells would actually level up with you.

The game had a plethora of flaws like this.

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**** 60$.

That is all.

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#17 N64DD
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

From a completely objective standpoint, sure, but Oblivion deserves credit for being first. Skyrim was really just Oblivion with better graphics and more stuff. Oblivion felt fresh at launch, and it took me 20 hours or so to really start to sour on it. Skyrim was only fun for about 10 hours or so, but I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't already played Oblivion.

For me, I played through Morrowind first, and Oblivion was just an awful let down. Skyrim actually improved on things, so I felt that Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion. Oblivion had all of those lazy copy/paste dungeons whereas Skyrim actually seemed to have had some thought put into them. It also had a tiny bit better dialogue, but the voice acting was just as bad, and the dialogue is still mostly boring.

Oblivion also had those special spells that would become useless if you got them at a low level. Had to use a mod to fix that, so the spells would actually level up with you.

The game had a plethora of flaws like this.

Yeah that was the problem with Oblivion. It was an absolutely beautiful game. The portals you had to close all looked the same. Coming from Morrowind (which was a masterpiece, besides the combat). Skyrim just feels dense compared to Oblivion and the combat is right. I do miss the no level scaling which was in Morrowind(I know you can mod it it out).

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@slimdogmilionar said:

@navyguy21: If Bethesda showed gameplay of the remastered version pc players would just criticize it and compare it to Skyrim with mods. In thinking this is what they wanted to avoid.

That is most likely the case lol.

I do think the special edition will have mods capable of doing more, though im not sure many modders will dedicate time to it as they did with the original.

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@n64dd said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

From a completely objective standpoint, sure, but Oblivion deserves credit for being first. Skyrim was really just Oblivion with better graphics and more stuff. Oblivion felt fresh at launch, and it took me 20 hours or so to really start to sour on it. Skyrim was only fun for about 10 hours or so, but I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't already played Oblivion.

For me, I played through Morrowind first, and Oblivion was just an awful let down. Skyrim actually improved on things, so I felt that Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion. Oblivion had all of those lazy copy/paste dungeons whereas Skyrim actually seemed to have had some thought put into them. It also had a tiny bit better dialogue, but the voice acting was just as bad, and the dialogue is still mostly boring.

Oblivion also had those special spells that would become useless if you got them at a low level. Had to use a mod to fix that, so the spells would actually level up with you.

The game had a plethora of flaws like this.

Yeah that was the problem with Oblivion. It was an absolutely beautiful game. The portals you had to close all looked the same. Coming from Morrowind (which was a masterpiece, besides the combat). Skyrim just feels dense compared to Oblivion and the combat is right. I do miss the no level scaling which was in Morrowind(I know you can mod it it out).

Yeah, I liked Morrowind, too. My first impression of Oblivion was that it was a breath of fresh air, though. I liked how the game started a lot more, and at first I was amazed by the sheer size of everything. It took a lot of gameplay for all of the game's flaws to build upon each other to the point that I no longer enjoyed the game. With Skyrim, the flaws were more expected, since I'd already played Oblivion. It didn't have the same honeymoon period for me. It is clearly the better game from a worldbuilding and "things to do" perspective, but as an RPG, it just isn't different enough. Morrowind is still the best 3D Elder Scrolls game, and the success of Oblivion and Skyrim only ensures that the series will continue to move in the wrong direction.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@n64dd said:

Oblivion was worse. By far.

From a completely objective standpoint, sure, but Oblivion deserves credit for being first. Skyrim was really just Oblivion with better graphics and more stuff. Oblivion felt fresh at launch, and it took me 20 hours or so to really start to sour on it. Skyrim was only fun for about 10 hours or so, but I would have liked it a lot more if I hadn't already played Oblivion.

For me, I played through Morrowind first, and Oblivion was just an awful let down. Skyrim actually improved on things, so I felt that Skyrim was a step up from Oblivion. Oblivion had all of those lazy copy/paste dungeons whereas Skyrim actually seemed to have had some thought put into them. It also had a tiny bit better dialogue, but the voice acting was just as bad, and the dialogue is still mostly boring.

Oblivion also had those special spells that would become useless if you got them at a low level. Had to use a mod to fix that, so the spells would actually level up with you.

The game had a plethora of flaws like this.

Yeah that was the problem with Oblivion. It was an absolutely beautiful game. The portals you had to close all looked the same. Coming from Morrowind (which was a masterpiece, besides the combat). Skyrim just feels dense compared to Oblivion and the combat is right. I do miss the no level scaling which was in Morrowind(I know you can mod it it out).

Yeah, I liked Morrowind, too. My first impression of Oblivion was that it was a breath of fresh air, though. I liked how the game started a lot more, and at first I was amazed by the sheer size of everything. It took a lot of gameplay for all of the game's flaws to build upon each other to the point that I no longer enjoyed the game. With Skyrim, the flaws were more expected, since I'd already played Oblivion. It didn't have the same honeymoon period for me. It is clearly the better game from a worldbuilding and "things to do" perspective, but as an RPG, it just isn't different enough. Morrowind is still the best 3D Elder Scrolls game, and the success of Oblivion and Skyrim only ensures that the series will continue to move in the wrong direction.

I think Skyrim was amazing. I agree that I like Morrowind more.

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@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

I completely disagree, but I'm glad you liked the dumbed down Skyrim where you play as super hero.

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I buy it

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@WitIsWisdom said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

I completely disagree, but I'm glad you liked the dumbed down Skyrim where you play as super hero.

Skyrim vs Oblivion is like shit vs diarrhea. If you like one more than other there's no reason to be proud of it.

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#24  Edited By silversix_
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@bussinrounds said:
@WitIsWisdom said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

I completely disagree, but I'm glad you liked the dumbed down Skyrim where you play as super hero.

Skyrim vs Oblivion is like shit vs diarrhea. If you like one more than other there's no reason to be proud of it.

Oblivion may be meh for today standards but it wasn't bad in 2006. Skyrim on the other hand, was shit from the day one in 2011

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@slimdogmilionar said:

No gameplay shown because original pc version with mods is the definitive version.

It really isn't.... it looks horrid with the mods...

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Bethesda has cuck'd consoles for how many games now? and people still buy their stuff, amazing

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@scatteh316 said:
@slimdogmilionar said:

No gameplay shown because original pc version with mods is the definitive version.

It really isn't.... it looks horrid with the mods...

Guess you installed the wrong mods then?

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@navyguy21 said:
@slimdogmilionar said:

No gameplay shown because original pc version with mods is the definitive version.

But with the amount of mods it takes to get the game to look like the remaster youd need a upper-mid tier pc.

Not to mention worrying about compatibility and running on an outdated and constrained engine.

At least the remaster starts off with a x64 bit exe (allowing more RAM usage) and easy modding like Fallout 4.

The LAA mods and those like it came with their own set of issues.

There are plenty of performance friendly graphic mods that still manage to make the game look better than the remastered version without comprising the performance.

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@bussinrounds said:
@WitIsWisdom said:
@n64dd said:
@WitIsWisdom said:

Well, seeing as though Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls released on console... I sure wouldn't. That said, if you are into the mod thing... maybe.

Oblivion was worse. By far.

I completely disagree, but I'm glad you liked the dumbed down Skyrim where you play as super hero.

Skyrim vs Oblivion is like shit vs diarrhea. If you like one more than other there's no reason to be proud of it.

I'd rather fart and have to take a shit (Oblivion) rather than fart and find out it was diarrhea (Skyrim)... just saying.

On that note, I liked MOST of everything about Oblivion, unfortunately the worst part was the Oblivion gates.. go figure. The vision and actual scope of Skyrim just didn't match up for me and the immersion was not high enough for a game like that. The best part of the game was about the blind moth priests... enough said. Other than that... drauger... drauger... drauger... dragon... drauger... drauger... drauger... dragon... What's next a DRAUGER DRAGON? Wait... what's that.... no, it can't be... no.. no.. a DRAUGER DRAGON?!??! *Throws controller... I'm done*

Skyrim "We lost 10,000 men that day" looks around town... 8 houses. SMH.

Oblivion was a great follow up to Morrowind, where as Skyrim was 2 steps forward (random encounters) and 3 steps back (dumbed down mechanics everywhere you look).

Oblivion had WAY more variety and different areas actually felt like different regions. Everything in Skyrim felt too similar. That game is a milk drinking Nord... lol

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@danner said:

I played Skyrim last gen on the 360 and enjoyed it. I didnt play any of the dlc add ons. Is it worth playing again? The game comes out in a couple of weeks, and Bethesda has yet to show gameplay? Why is this? I dont mind paying the full price if its worth the buy. It seems very shady to have no new videos or anything... Does the game run like total shit or something?

I say wait for impressions. If the game is running smooth go for it. Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLCs were good. Hearthfire is super charming if you are fully immersed in the world.

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Witcher 3 almost spoiled skyrim for me by being so much better. I don't know if I want to go back to the generic world of skyrim with storyless side quests again. I mean it looked great, and was still entertaining for the hundred something hours I put into it, but just for a graphics upgrade, i'm not so sure. I kind of wish they had just worked on the next Elders Scrolls game instead.

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#32  Edited By Howmakewood
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@Phazevariance said:

Witcher 3 almost spoiled skyrim for me by being so much better. I don't know if I want to go back to the generic world of skyrim with storyless side quests again. I mean it looked great, and was still entertaining for the hundred something hours I put into it, but just for a graphics upgrade, i'm not so sure. I kind of wish they had just worked on the next Elders Scrolls game instead.

do you have skyrim on pc? if so, have you tried Enderal?