Smartphone gaming is obviously becoming more relevant. SW rules busted....

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#1 TheEroica  Moderator
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Im not gonna beat around the bush... sw "rules" are fantastically ridiculous for the most part and dont reflect bullet points of what makes something desirable and valuable to the real world, but we live in this world of fiction and the world keeps spinning... my question is... Recently we had an uprising about pc/mac exclusivity where it was deemed that choosing to be a "pc gamer" was not OS specific but rather the choice to game on a "personal computer" meant all encompassing pc gaming reguardless of operating systems and company of said pc. So i then apply this logic to smart phones and logic tells us something very similar... if i choose to be a mobile gamer then the difference between android and ios is irrelevant because operating system has zero relevance. It only matters that i am a "mobile gamer" thus android and ios have zero exclusives between them but are a shared platform of all encompassing mobile gaming... This theory is airtight and applies perfectly to the precedent set forth in pc gaming... your welcome for clearing this up for future generations. (Below is where system wars inserts their hypocritical rule bending to make everyone feel safer.... go)
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irrelevant

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#3 LittleMac19
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What's Smartphone gaming?
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#4 clyde46
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Toilet games, thats all anyone does on a smartphone game wise.
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I'm hungry... I demand breakfast!

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#6 TheEroica  Moderator
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What's Smartphone gaming?LittleMac19
Mobile gaming... is what i wrote rocket science?

I'm hungry... I demand breakfast!

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meh, im a brunch guy.
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#7 GamerwillzPS
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Nope. It's still irrelevant to the gaming world.

It's a gaming device for toilet and waiting room. That's it.

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Nope. It's still irrelevant to the gaming world.

It's a gaming device for toilet and waiting room. That's it.

GamerwillzPS
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Only time I bust out my iphone to play a game is when I'm working and I need to kill some time.
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#9 TheEroica  Moderator
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Nope. It's still irrelevant to the gaming world.

It's a gaming device for toilet and waiting room. That's it.

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Toilet games, thats all anyone does on a smartphone game wise.clyde46

irrelevant

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Cmon guys u cant feel THAT threatened by mobile gaming...?
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You aren't serious are you? Oh, you are serious. Hmmm...

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#11 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Nope. It's still irrelevant to the gaming world.

It's a gaming device for toilet and waiting room. That's it.

Randoggy
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Only time I bust out my iphone to play a game is when I'm working and I need to kill some time.

I find it funny that everyone feels empowered to speak about how they mobile game but doesnt want to answer the question i posed about its categorization...
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It's irrelevant here to the System War elitist who claim that true gaming is only found on PC or Consoles with games with multi-million dollar budgets.
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#13 TheEroica  Moderator
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You aren't serious are you? Oh, you are serious. Hmmm...

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Its just a topic of intrigue to me. I dont mobile game to any extent but i was thinking about how system wars decided to enforce the pc is all personal computers logic and i applied the exact same logic to mobile... whats so shocking?
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I agree that the SW meta game rules are stupid, but Smartphone gaming is not very good. It controls weird and most games you play for like 10 minutes to pass the time.

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Toilet game, good 5' distraction, good games to play before sleep (most of them are snorefest) but that's it.

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[QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

You aren't serious are you? Oh, you are serious. Hmmm...

TheEroica

Its just a topic of intrigue to me. I dont mobile game to any extent but i was thinking about how system wars decided to enforce the pc is all personal computers logic and i applied the exact same logic to mobile... whats so shocking?

Except it didn't.

iOs and Android are separate platforms, not compatibile with eachother.If you want direct analogy to PC/Mac in mobilem then Android/Kindle Fire is what you're looking for.

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#17 fight2thedeath
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No exclusives to each platform? What about infinity blade or twewy? One more and it will have as many exclusives as the 360. :lol:
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Toilet games, thats all anyone does on a smartphone game wise.clyde46

irrelevant

platniumgamer
Cmon guys u cant feel THAT threatened by mobile gaming...?

I never said I was threatern. Hell I game on my Android phone and iPad when I'm waiting around for trains etc.
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Where's the question? You claim you're bringing a question into the OP for discussion's sake, and then drop a poorly founded assertion and nothing else.

I suppose, then, that I can just address your assertion. Ok, so, ready? Here's my reply: Whatever.

Seriously, what does it matter whether we consider iOS and Android one platform? Either way, that gaming on these devices is "becoming more relevant" should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. Over the past several years, smartphone adoption in developed nations has skyrocketed, to the point where today I don't really no anyone personally who doesn't own one.

Couple this with the fact that some people are gamers, and those people own these phones, and these phones have games available for them, and these games are cheap/free...

Well, you can see where I'm going with this I'd guess. Problems remain, though, that keep smartphone gaming from being truly relevant. Most of the games still feel cheap and short/simplistic compared to those found on dedicated gaming handhelds. Also, it would be nice to have a solution for controlling your games that doesn't involve either smudging up your screen (and putting your fingers over parts of the action) or attaching a console-style controller to a portable device, rendering its primary quality (that it's portable) irrelevant/meaningless.

But if all you're asserting is that smartphone gaming has become more relevant over the last few years, I'll say it again: Whatever.

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Playing on a tiny screen, half of which is hidden by my fingers, because of lack of buttons? No, thanks.

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#21 Loegi
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iOS and Android are quite different. There are quite a few exclusives between the two. The OS is exclusive to either side. And the hardware is closed and locked to either side too.

This isn't the case with PC.
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I am a portable console gamer but I don't see phone/tablet gaming as a threat. Since they cater to a difference audience than me with touch only controls
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#23 CaseyWegner
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well, you guys will get to redefine the system wars "rules" somewhat when the next gen starts. that's a positive, right?

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#24 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Who cares?
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If you want to make such a comparison you have to answer this question: "Can I run android on an iPhone and can I run iOS on a Samsung Galaxy phone?" and "Can I have both on one device.
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Where's the question? You claim you're bringing a question into the OP for discussion's sake, and then drop a poorly founded assertion and nothing else.

I suppose, then, that I can just address your assertion. Ok, so, ready? Here's my reply: Whatever.

Seriously, what does it matter whether we consider iOS and Android one platform? Either way, that gaming on these devices is "becoming more relevant" should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. Over the past several years, smartphone adoption in developed nations has skyrocketed, to the point where today I don't really no anyone personally who doesn't own one.

Couple this with the fact that some people are gamers, and those people own these phones, and these phones have games available for them, and these games are cheap/free...

Well, you can see where I'm going with this I'd guess. Problems remain, though, that keep smartphone gaming from being truly relevant. Most of the games still feel cheap and short/simplistic compared to those found on dedicated gaming handhelds. Also, it would be nice to have a solution for controlling your games that doesn't involve either smudging up your screen (and putting your fingers over parts of the action) or attaching a console-style controller to a portable device, rendering its primary quality (that it's portable) irrelevant/meaningless.

But if all you're asserting is that smartphone gaming has become more relevant over the last few years, I'll say it again: Whatever.

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Perhaps question is the wrong word... but the statement still stands as relevant. And the feedback im asking for is that of agreement or disagreement... wasnt exoecting the venom but ok... the statement remains... if different os doesnt constitute a separation in pc gaming as it was explained recently, but the act of gaming on a personal computer is all that matters, then so it is that mobile gaming follows suit. Is that too much of a volatile statement for system wars?
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#27 TheEroica  Moderator
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well, you guys will get to redefine the system wars "rules" somewhat when the next gen starts. that's a positive, right?

CaseyWegner
God i hope so... because gaming evolved waaaay past system wars mentality this generation. Sw mentality is akin to two old dogs laying on a porch dreaming of the good ole days...
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ment still stands as relevant. And the feedback im asking for is that of agreement or disagreement... wasnt exoecting the venom but ok... the statement remains... if different os doesnt constitute a separation in pc gaming as it was explained recently, but the act of gaming on a personal computer is all that matters, then so it is that mobile gaming follows suit. Is that too much of a volatile statement for system wars?TheEroica
No, because using your logic all consoles are one platform too.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]ment still stands as relevant. And the feedback im asking for is that of agreement or disagreement... wasnt exoecting the venom but ok... the statement remains... if different os doesnt constitute a separation in pc gaming as it was explained recently, but the act of gaming on a personal computer is all that matters, then so it is that mobile gaming follows suit. Is that too much of a volatile statement for system wars?AdrianWerner

No, because using your logic all consoles are one platform too.

Im just trying to get the bottom of our classifications and whether or not the same rules apply to mobile gaming as they do to pc gaming or if we'll be heading into next gen with yet another meta game double standard... not trying to ruffle feathers, just curious.
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]ment still stands as relevant. And the feedback im asking for is that of agreement or disagreement... wasnt exoecting the venom but ok... the statement remains... if different os doesnt constitute a separation in pc gaming as it was explained recently, but the act of gaming on a personal computer is all that matters, then so it is that mobile gaming follows suit. Is that too much of a volatile statement for system wars?TheEroica

No, because using your logic all consoles are one platform too.

Im just trying to get the bottom of our classifications and whether or not the same rules apply to mobile gaming as they do to pc gaming or if we'll be heading into next gen with yet another meta game double standard... not trying to ruffle feathers, just curious.

What double standard? answer my question? Can you do what I asked?
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Your mouth is frothing from all the bullsh!t that's coming out of it.

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Im just trying to get the bottom of our classifications and whether or not the same rules apply to mobile gaming as they do to pc gaming or if we'll be heading into next gen with yet another meta game double standard... not trying to ruffle feathers, just curious.TheEroica
You still haven't explained why you consider it double standard for PC, but not for consoles. People already have explained to you, why your reasoning is wrong. But you've just chosen to ignore it.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="brennanhuff"]

You aren't serious are you? Oh, you are serious. Hmmm...

AdrianWerner

Its just a topic of intrigue to me. I dont mobile game to any extent but i was thinking about how system wars decided to enforce the pc is all personal computers logic and i applied the exact same logic to mobile... whats so shocking?

Except it didn't.

iOs and Android are separate platforms, not compatibile with eachother.If you want direct analogy to PC/Mac in mobilem then Android/Kindle Fire is what you're looking for.

Ok fair enough, but we're still talking about completely separate os's... where kindle fire is a version of android, i think my point about ios and android applies well to windows and mac, despite the ability to instal ios on a pc... they are still completely different os
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Its just a topic of intrigue to me. I dont mobile game to any extent but i was thinking about how system wars decided to enforce the pc is all personal computers logic and i applied the exact same logic to mobile... whats so shocking?TheEroica

Except it didn't.

iOs and Android are separate platforms, not compatibile with eachother.If you want direct analogy to PC/Mac in mobilem then Android/Kindle Fire is what you're looking for.

Ok fair enough, but we're still talking about completely separate os's... where kindle fire is a version of android, i think my point about ios and android applies well to windows and mac, despite the ability to instal ios on a pc... they are still completely different os

Still waiting.
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Toilet games, thats all anyone does on a smartphone game wise.clyde46

irrelevant

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Cmon guys u cant feel THAT threatened by mobile gaming...?

Are you kidding? Smartphones and tablets are possibly one of the biggest threats to traditional gaming, ever! If that isn't REALLY threatening, I don't know what is. F*ck smartphones.
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Ok fair enough, but we're still talking about completely separate os's... where kindle fire is a version of android, i think my point about ios and android applies well to windows and mac, despite the ability to instal ios on a pc... they are still completely different osTheEroica

This doesn't make much sense though. OSX is modified Linux actually. Also..Windows RT is completely separate OS from W8 and won't be compatibile with any x86 Windows software.

This shows the fallacy of using OS as platform. What determines platform is ultimatelly compatibility. Otherwise you would have to consider Windows XP and Windows 7 to be different platforms.

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Well all I gotta say is that I received an Ipad from my school and I had never once considered buying a product like this or use my GalaxyS2 for gaming.

But after doing a little research and seeing I can VPN into my PC at home from my Ipad and play whatever steam games from any wifi, I can honestly say that I would never in my life think of buying a 3DS, Vita, ect. again.

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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

irrelevant

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Cmon guys u cant feel THAT threatened by mobile gaming...?

Are you kidding? Smartphones and tablets are possibly one of the biggest threats to traditional gaming, ever! If that isn't REALLY threatening, I don't know what is. F*ck smartphones.

Oh no doubt, smartphone gaming is pretty gross right now based on its interface being maybe only slightly better than kinect nonsense... but that said, why are we all so resistant to evolutions in gaming? If traditional gaming is what we vote with our wallets then we have little to fear.
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really....

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Smartphone gaming = LOL

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#41 GOGOGOGURT
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I agree that the SW meta game rules are stupid, but Smartphone gaming is not very good. It controls weird and most games you play for like 10 minutes to pass the time.

ShadowMoses900

So you like elder scrolls now? Because your avatar pic is of the dark elf in the oblivion manual.

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Phones have not had any games worth my time as of now.
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I have to wonder, did anybody care about this?

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#44 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Nope. It's still irrelevant to the gaming world.

It's a gaming device for toilet and waiting room. That's it.

TheEroica
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Only time I bust out my iphone to play a game is when I'm working and I need to kill some time.

I find it funny that everyone feels empowered to speak about how they mobile game but doesnt want to answer the question i posed about its categorization...

Probably because no one cares. Who honestly promotes mobile gaming before PC and consoles? I doubt anyone.
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#45 p4s2p0
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Who honestly promotes mobile gaming before PC and consoles? I doubt anyone.DragonfireXZ95
Well let me put your doubts to rest. Sales show that portables have as much interest as home console or pc. Like ds is only second in sales to ps2. Psp sold around 75 million which is more than ps360 so far. I've been a portable only gamer since psp now. And people that use them both sometimes use the portables more.
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#46 glez13
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That depends. Can you install Android or iOS on any smartphone as you wish just like you can install any OS in almost any PC as you wish?