Snake VS. Sam Fisher (It's final: Snake Wins!!! /thread)

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#1 jetthrovegas
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There was some cat in the forums a while back saying Splinter Cell > MGS, so I thought I'd settle it.

I say Snake. Period. End of story.

What say you?

*Edit: And you said Snake! Snake wins! End of thread!

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#2 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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You all ready know my answer.
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Garrett.
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#4 jg4xchamp
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Yep Solid SNake is a billion times better than sam fisher.
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#5 ithilgore2006
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Snake for sure.
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#6 jetthrovegas
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You all ready know my answer._S0LID_SNAKE_

Right on, my brother.

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#7 Overthrow
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At least it's a sensible matchup.

Anyway they'll be all like hiding and sneaky and then Snake will be all like "oh snap here he comes!" and then he'll be all like "Box!" and Sam Fisher will be all like "lol where did he go?"

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#8 jetthrovegas
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Garrett._en1gma_

Not an option, but good answer.Still Snake > Garret.

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#9 kman3002
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Snake.
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#10 jetthrovegas
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Lots of Snake love on SW... good sign, man.
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#11 Taz-Bone
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You all ready know my answer._S0LID_SNAKE_
Snake Fisher? Solid Sam?
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#12 thejakel11225
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Snake FTW!!!!
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#13 DA_B0MB
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Snake because his game is better.
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#14 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Garrett.jetthrovegas

Not an option, but good answer.Still Snake > Garret.

I like being different :D

Id pick Snake as well, however. If I had to choose.

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#15 tegovoltio
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Snake by far. Any of them.
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#16 jetthrovegas
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Dang man, Solid Snake has a posse!
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While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games.  The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes.  I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.
And while Splinter Cell's story is as predictable as any story with Clancy's name on it, I'll take it over the drug-induced hallucination that appears to be the plot of Metal Gear Solid.
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#18 bc1391
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Snake any day of the week.
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#19 jetthrovegas
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While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.lowe0

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

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#20 Setsa
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Snake.
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#21 Elviathan
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Snake FTW!
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While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.
And while Splinter Cell's story is as predictable as any story with Clancy's name on it, I'll take it over the drug-induced hallucination that appears to be the plot of Metal Gear Solid.lowe0
I agree with you but I still love MGS.
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#23 jetthrovegas
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14 posts for Snake, 0 for Sam Fisher. Hmmm...
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#24 Unstoppable_1
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I think Snake would win because he dosen't get "breaks" like Sam Fisher. He goes on epic missions while Sam goes on mission which are smaller. If anything they are even.
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#25 ff7isnumbaone
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Snake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.jetthrovegas

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION. MGS owns. Splinter cell to me has a terrible storyline usually. just bleh. as for the games, meh there good. I think they are overhyped and overdone. I like the gameplay in MGS. The gameplay, story, presentation, and overall characters are much cooler in MGS.

Grey FOx owns every character in the entire Splinter Cell series. and oh my god the twin snakes videos for gamecube made him even cooler.
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While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.
And while Splinter Cell's story is as predictable as any story with Clancy's name on it, I'll take it over the drug-induced hallucination that appears to be the plot of Metal Gear Solid.lowe0

Agree'd. I would put MGS as a action/stealth game. Kind of like how system shock and bioshock are fps/rpg. The better stealth game hands down is Splinter cell. Action wise is MGS.

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[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.jg4xchamp

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

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#29 jetthrovegas
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.Sully28

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Dude, 5 times??? More like 25!

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Snake. Sam's a little boring :P.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.Sully28

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Sorry but there arent any (!) over sams head when he see's snake, he would be comletely lost. As I said, stealth wise sam>snake. Sam would take him out without ever being seen

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#32 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.jetthrovegas

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Dude, 5 times??? More like 25!

Pfffft more like 67 times!
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You all ready know my answer._S0LID_SNAKE_
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snake because hes cool enough to get into a nintendo game. seriously a nonsonic third party character in a nintendo game is crazy, especially one as hardcore as snake.
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Dude, Sam has some serious catching up to do, Snake is kicking his ass like this.
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#37 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.DoctorBunny

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Sorry but there arent any (!) over sams head when he see's snake, he would be comletely lost. As I said, stealth wise sam>snake. Sam would take him out without ever being seen

snake has heightend(sp?) senses. He will be able to hear Sam, he will be all over Sam before Sam can make a move. and in terms of combat, please Snake would destroy Fisher. Sam is more sneaky, but not enough that Snake cant beat him.
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Snake.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.Sully28

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

thats the IN MY Freaking Opinion part. and i loved Half Life. its just that MGS 1 owned in terms of story. MGS 2 was really good. MGS 3 was one of those few games that got you pretty sad at the end. The series is just awesome. Kojima is a story telling genious. I cant wait for MGS 4. That game alone will have me purchase a PS3.
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I PICK SAM FISHER!!!just kidding...SNAKE ALL THE WAY!!! w00t!!!!!!!!! haha snake is owning like 40 to 0
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.jg4xchamp

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Sorry but there arent any (!) over sams head when he see's snake, he would be comletely lost. As I said, stealth wise sam>snake. Sam would take him out without ever being seen

snake has heightend(sp?) senses. He will be able to hear Sam, he will be all over Sam before Sam can make a move. and in terms of combat, please Snake would destroy Fisher. Sam is more sneaky, but not enough that Snake cant beat him.

You realize his stealth is heavily based on being extremely quiet too right? but seeing how the majority of people saying snake never played splinter cell or are pissed that the ps3 crippled the game, I understand why.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]While I'm not going to involve myself in a debate over which fictional character is better, the Splinter Cell games are definitely better than the Metal Gear Solid games. The misions are complex and varied, you don't feel like you're treading the same ground repeatedly, the shadow mechanic is the best since Thief, and the plot plays out without breaking interactivity - you're not subjected to a cutscene every ten minutes. I can't wait to see how their reinvention of the series plays out.DoctorBunny

To each is own, I like the way MGS works, what with the lenghthy cutscenes and heady, politically charged firecracker dialogue.

Thank u, MGS has the best storyline in any videogame series In MY FREAKIN OPINION.

As much as i love MGS, i disagree. Half life is better in my eyes, but i had heart stoping moments in both games.

Yeah snake for sure. He would kill same fisher 5 times before he hit the ground. Thats right, 5 times.

Sorry but there arent any (!) over sams head when he see's snake, he would be comletely lost. As I said, stealth wise sam>snake. Sam would take him out without ever being seen

snake has heightend(sp?) senses. He will be able to hear Sam, he will be all over Sam before Sam can make a move. and in terms of combat, please Snake would destroy Fisher. Sam is more sneaky, but not enough that Snake cant beat him.

You realize his stealth is heavily based on being extremely quiet too right? but seeing how the majority of people saying snake never played splinter cell or are pissed that the ps3 crippled the game, I understand why.

dont have a PS3 and have a 360. Snake would win simply on the fact that he is a genetically enhanced super soldier. Fisher can be quite all he wants, the slightest, and i mean the slightest noise will be heard by snake. And in terms of combat SNake wins hands down. Im not picking Snake because im a cow or something. Im picking SNake because A i like MGS more and B Snake would honestly whip his A$$
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They'd probably hide from each other, waiting for each other to make the first move. Nothing will end up happening and they will both eventually starve to death, or run away.
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Wow, this is original. :roll:

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Wow, this is original. :roll:

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HEY! Don't diss on me cause I'm derivative!

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#46 Mordred19
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just to clarify, is it Snake before his genes started breaking down, or is it Old Snake versus Fisher?

if normal Snake and Sam were in a sneaking match, to see who could kill the other from behind, they would be locked in a stalemate until they both died of old age.

if it was in open combat, hand-to-hand, Snake would own. Sam has mad skills, training, and experience, but Snake was built from the ground up to be a super soldier. Snake has slightly more physical strength, more stamina, and quicker reflexes. He also doesn't rely on any specific fighting style, but Sam could choose not to employ his Krav Maga style.

also, what kind of equipment would they be wearing? Those sneaking suits they have are bullet-proof (some, at least)

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#47 Mordred19
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but if it was a knife fight between them, then Sam would win. I'm pretty sure Sam is better with a knife.

if it was a sniper duel? tough one.

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#48 tegovoltio
Member since 2004 • 9280 Posts

You realize his stealth is heavily based on being extremely quiet too right? but seeing how the majority of people saying snake never played splinter cell or are pissed that the ps3 crippled the game, I understand why.

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Played SC on Xbox. MGS gameplay is much more fun. SC has bad animation, and you say it's more realistic but sam never turns off his goggles, hidden in shadows means all, he can stand indefinitely on two side walls with his feet. Sam doesn't even crawl.

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#49 Drukter
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Not an option, but good answer.Still Snake > Garret.

I like being different :D

Id pick Snake as well, however. If I had to choose.

Wrong. Garrett > Snake

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#50 osirisomeomi
Member since 2007 • 3100 Posts

Snake. Sam's a little boring :P. Dark_Link142

Sam fisher's a walking stereotype, i agree.

As for Snake, he's a modern ninja with a phd in psychedelic philosophy. The story's ridiculous, but kinda cool.