So, according to Techno Buffalo's rounds

the Cpu ( taking advantage of the spe's ) + Bluray storage make all the difference on when it comes to high quality textures and visuals.

The reviewer mentioned Uncharted 2 and how high res textures are directly streamed from the bluray, while the 360 needs to decompress them, plus he says that the limited storage on the 360 is the reason why FFXIII is on sub-hd for the Microsoft's console.

While I can understand the CPU factor, I don't quite understand how the Bluray would help ps3 games accomplish better graphics.

I mean, computer games still use standard dvd 9, don't they? take Dragon Age Origins, the Pc version destroys the Ps3 one, although it's only on 1 dvd9.

so, yeah, I don't get why they say bluray is one of the "keys" for such graphical accomplishments on the ps3?

I guess for console more space means more pixels. i dont know. But PS3 is dishing out better looking games then 360, so its gotta be something to do with something on PS3.

the Techno Buffalo guy says:

"as you know bluray discs have 5 times the capacity of dvd's, which gives the Ps3 huge benefits. there's more space for high res textures and very little need forcompression of those textures, thiis equates to the amazing high detailed world you see on Uncharted 2. the ps3's gpu gets off easy as it does not need to devolve power into texture decompression"

Thats TOTAL bull.Disk space gives you nothing in terms of texture resolution...you ram matters the most,all you can do is make good streaming technique similar to ND,Blu ray/=hi res textures.If it was like that ps2 would be able to dish out textures as good as 360 since DL DVD ps2=DL DVD 360,thats nonsense.

Also that guy on techno buffalo does not even know how to spell anti aliasing,so i would not go by him...

I think when games require a lot of space, like Final Fantasy XIII, devs would rather not use lots of dvd's, hence they lower the resolution. and I don't think the difference was that huge between the 2 versions. the ps3 clearly had the edge, but it really didn't matter much imo.

but of course when it comes to size, of course that's a clear advantage for Bluray discs over dvd's.

DAO looks better on Pc, because of the superior hardware, unless you have an old pc. It doesn't need bluray to show superior graphics, framerate and whatnot.

I guess for console more space means more pixels. i dont know. But PS3 is dishing out better looking games then 360, so its gotta be something to do with something on PS3.

XboximusPrime

more space means more pixels.. now way. by your logic I could have a 300 GB game running on a 10 year old computer and have the best graphics.:P

I don't know about you guys but I think it DOES have to do with the disc space. Though I doubt you'll get "more" Pixels for your resolution but the games will certainly look better without decompression, Then again what the heck do I know? A Resolution is a Resolution and you can't change it but you can make it look better.

hmm and what if I install games on the HDD? do the textures still need to get decompressed by the 360's hardware?

hmm and what if I install games on the HDD? do the textures still need to get decompressed by the 360's hardware?

aia89

They can make that sure.I think Carmack said RAGE will be like that.When you have disk in it if you turn around fast you might see lower res textures,but if you install it no.

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hmm and what if I install games on the HDD? do the textures still need to get decompressed by the 360's hardware?

Bus-A-Bus

They can make that sure.I think Carmack said RAGE will be like that.When you have disk in it if you turn around fast you might see lower res textures,but if you install it no.

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hmm and what if I install games on the HDD? do the textures still need to get decompressed by the 360's hardware?

aia89

They can make that sure.I think Carmack said RAGE will be like that.When you have disk in it if you turn around fast you might see lower res textures,but if you install it no.

Well yea obviously.I mean if you look at what 512 mb is its very very little for textures but ND seems to get a grip with it,they made great streaming of textures so they look great,some others like Bioshock had to be toned down to fit in ps3 ram.

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They can make that sure.I think Carmack said RAGE will be like that.When you have disk in it if you turn around fast you might see lower res textures,but if you install it no.

Bus-A-Bus

Well yea obviously.I mean if you look at what 512 mb is its very very little for textures but ND seems to get a grip with it,they made great streaming of textures so they look great,some others like Bioshock had to be toned down to fit in ps3 ram.

by RAM you mean the gpu's or the system's? like my Pc has 3 GB Ram and 1 GB on the gfx card.

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[QUOTE="aia89"] interesting.. so it all comes down to the developers' skills?aia89

Well yea obviously.I mean if you look at what 512 mb is its very very little for textures but ND seems to get a grip with it,they made great streaming of textures so they look great,some others like Bioshock had to be toned down to fit in ps3 ram.

by RAM you mean the gpu's or the system's? like my Pc has 3 GB Ram and 1 GB on the gfx card.

Systems of course...theres where textures are stored.

It's been obvious for a long time that both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has the advantage of Blu Ray, more storage, a guaranteed HDD in every console, and the CPU can help out with graphics, the difference is small but it's definitely in the PS3's favor.