So anything but SMG GOTY is robbery

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#1 darth-pyschosis
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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

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#2 dracula_16
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Gamerankings' averages mean absolutely nothing to Gamespot when deciding to give awards out. You also seem to think Halo 3 is shorter than it really is.
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#3 KrazyKenKutarag
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It's definatly a contender and has a very good chance of getting GoTY. But it's no longer the highest game every, it's dropped down to 97.3. Still, second highest suits me.
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SMG or Crysis seem to be the most likely. WiC and Halo3 also will get strong nominations.
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If a game wins GOTY becaue of online multiplayer, the critics are slapping themselves in the face. By doing so, they'd be saying that story, music, and immersiveness of a true game doesn't matter to them anymore, they are more impressed by a map and playing against people they don't know. Is it fun? Effin' rights. But, it's not nearly as much of an artistic endeavor as a great single player game.

So, yes, anything but SMG would be robbery, in my mind.

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It's definatly a contender and has a very good chance of getting GoTY. But it's no longer the highest game every, it's dropped down to 97.3. Still, second highest suits me.KrazyKenKutarag

It'll be third or fourth highest soon...

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#7 darth-pyschosis
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I don't think Halo 3 is shorter than it really is.

It took me 4 and a half hours to beat the single player on Lengendary. Once.

BS.

I don't intend to, want to, or want the general public to pay $65 to play 5 hours of shooting.

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#8 KrazyKenKutarag
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[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"]It's definatly a contender and has a very good chance of getting GoTY. But it's no longer the highest game every, it's dropped down to 97.3. Still, second highest suits me.thriteenthmonke

It'll be third or fourth highest soon...

I agree. I don't know how people thought it would stay number one to begin with.

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If a game wins GOTY becaue of online multiplayer, the critics are slapping themselves in the face. By doing so, they'd be saying that story, music, and immersiveness of a true game doesn't matter to them anymore, they are more impressed by a map and playing against people they don't know. Is it fun? Effin' rights. But, it's not nearly as much of an artistic endeavor as a great single player game.

So, yes, anything but SMG would be robbery, in my mind.

bretthorror

Well if I recall Gamespot's 2004 GOTY was WoW and the main drawpoint in WoW is online multiplayer (since its a MMORPG).

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#10 Jynxzor
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I see a few games to consider for GOTY that are not SMG or Halo3
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#11 bretthorror
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[QUOTE="bretthorror"]

If a game wins GOTY becaue of online multiplayer, the critics are slapping themselves in the face. By doing so, they'd be saying that story, music, and immersiveness of a true game doesn't matter to them anymore, they are more impressed by a map and playing against people they don't know. Is it fun? Effin' rights. But, it's not nearly as much of an artistic endeavor as a great single player game.

So, yes, anything but SMG would be robbery, in my mind.

Shadow2k6

Well if I recall Gamespot's 2004 GOTY was WoW and the main drawpoint in WoW is online multiplayer (since its a MMORPG).

At least back then it was more monumental. A great online shooter in 2007? What are the chances?! ;)

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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

darth-pyschosis

That was great and all, but...

Your welcome.

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#13 bretthorror
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

Taiko88

That was great and all, but...

Your welcome.

He needs not the tissues, for he has this: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

I forget how to read, how many Halo games are on there?

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#14 DivergeUnify
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Crysis?
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#15 7thSIN
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Ugh, Halo3 is not 4 hours on legendary....

Also, I think Crysis is going to get GOTY here, IMO.

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#16 PBSnipes
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So we're just ignoring the other games that recieved the exact same score?
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#17 thejakel11225
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Crysis for GOTY FTW!!!
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#18 tylerdurden2621
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I have galaxy, and its a fun game, but give me a freaking break...GOTY? Is galaxy really the kind of game that does it for people? Its a fun game, but its a real basic, not much to it imo. I know everyone thinks its some revolutionary mario game or something, but when I play it...it just seems like another mario game, nothing special. Music seems pretty good, graphics are relatively poor if compared to the other consoles, game play is fine, but this game doesnt add anything new and exciting to video games that I can see. This is a game that I find fun and that I like, but at the same time it is the most over rated game in the history of mankind, I just cannot believe people are finding this game to be the greatest thing ever. All I know if I could only pick one game to play from this year this would not be in my top five, probably my top ten though. Galaxy imo isn't even the best game on the wii, metroid is better.
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Crisis?
World in conflict?

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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

darth-pyschosis

your such a Liar,3-4 hours and you beat H3 on legendary? lol it took me 3 hours just to get past Tsao sp? Highway on Legendary (all by myself).

Dont get me wrong SMG is GOTY contender but so is a lot of other games.

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BIASED!

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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

darth-pyschosis

So mister Darth-psychosis beated halo 3 singleplayer on legendary+online multiplayerin 4 hours on his own.. Mister Byfly thinks mister Darht-psychosis is full of crap loaded with jelly... :D

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#23 bman784
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It will probably go to SMG, but that doesn't at all mean that it's head over heels better than the others that recieved the same score, because it isn't. There have been some spectacuar games this year. I hate to burst your bubble, but SMG isn't exactly the evolutionary step in gaming that you make it out to be. It's just an excellent platformer that puts a new spin on things. I've observed nothing that would indicate otherwise. Oh, and did you say STORYTELLING somewhere in your heap of praise? If SMG has any real weakpoint, it lies there.
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#24 c_smithii
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My votes on Halo 3, this game in two months have reached 4 Million. :o

  • Broke records on sales
  • Broke records on pre-orders

It's been blamed for flattening out the entire US Box Office market for the month of October and its helped Microsoft pick up millions of more gamers in addition to media companies who want to venture with Microsoft as theysee the potential Xbox 360 in making their content prosperious by advertising and selling their products through LIVE.

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#25 tylerdurden2621
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My votes on Halo 3, this game in two months have reached 4 Million. :o

  • Broke records on sales
  • Broke records on pre-orders

It's been blamed for flattening out the entire US Box Office market for the month of October and its helped Microsoft pick up millions of more gamers in addition to media companies who want to venture with Microsoft as theysee the potential Xbox 360 in making their content prosperious by advertising and selling their products through LIVE.

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No doubt halo has incredible sales and popularity, but that has nothing to do with goty imo. I am a big fan of halo, but its probably not the best game out this year. I hear alot of bashing on my favorite game this year, but I thought bioshock was awesome, thats my pick.
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If a game wins GOTY becaue of online multiplayer, the critics are slapping themselves in the face. By doing so, they'd be saying that story, music, and immersiveness of a true game doesn't matter to them anymore, they are more impressed by a map and playing against people they don't know. Is it fun? Effin' rights. But, it's not nearly as much of an artistic endeavor as a great single player game.

So, yes, anything but SMG would be robbery, in my mind.

bretthorror

You speak as though Super Mario Galaxy is the only game that has story, music and immersiveness, and all other games this year don't.

That's simply not the case. In fact GameSpot even said the minimal amount of story didn't tie everything together especially well.

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#27 Gamer46
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Personally I'd give SMG GOTY, however, I wouldn't say it's "robbery" if Halo 3, Crysis or BioShock were to take the award either. All four of those games are very deserving.

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#28 Gamingcucumber
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Actually I'm calling Orange Box GOTY. I honestly think that it will be.
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#29 Marka1700
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Orange box, SMG, Crysis and Halo 3 will be the top contenders.
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#30 bretthorror
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[QUOTE="bretthorror"]

If a game wins GOTY becaue of online multiplayer, the critics are slapping themselves in the face. By doing so, they'd be saying that story, music, and immersiveness of a true game doesn't matter to them anymore, they are more impressed by a map and playing against people they don't know. Is it fun? Effin' rights. But, it's not nearly as much of an artistic endeavor as a great single player game.

So, yes, anything but SMG would be robbery, in my mind.

Danm_999

You speak as though Super Mario Galaxy is the only game that has story, music and immersiveness, and all other games this year don't.

That's simply not the case. In fact GameSpot even said the minimal amount of story didn't tie everything together especially well.

Gamespot also said the new suits were hard to use...

Most games are action. Like action movies, it's fun to see the **** blow up, but that doesn't mean they're good by any means. Super Mario Galaxy has more charm than any other game I've ever played and it kept my attention every second I've played it (106 stars right now). It takes a lot more for a game like this to impress than a game with guns due to the mentality and age group of the players. A war game, action game, it's been done before. There has never been a platformer like Mario Galaxy and for damn sure there's never been one as good. I believe it should get GOTY. I would like for GS to give it GOTY to piss off the cows and lemmings. It's not gonna happen, though and I'm not worried because I don't really care what this site says about games.

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#31 heretrix
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I think Portal will push the Orange Box over the top. Don't underestimate it.
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Yes I would agree with SMG but the fact you stated Halo 3 was 4 hours on legendary makes me feel I should never listen to you ever again.
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"]It's definatly a contender and has a very good chance of getting GoTY. But it's no longer the highest game every, it's dropped down to 97.3. Still, second highest suits me.KrazyKenKutarag

It'll be third or fourth highest soon...

I agree. I don't know how people thought it would stay number one to begin with.

Keep in mind it has more reviews than OoT ever did.....perhaps OoT would have fallen as well.

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halo 3 had a horribly story, you're absolutely right.

SMG and crysis have equal chances i would say for GOTY

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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

darth-pyschosis

umm no cause the story is the same freaking story after 20 years.... change the story.

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#36 Private_Vegas
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A contender yes, but I think you're goinga little bit too far with that statement. There are a lot of great titles in the running this year. World in Conflict, Bioshock, The Orange Box (Or just one of the titles in the Orange Box, i'm not really sure if the whole package could win GOTY) and that's just to name a few.

Personally I'm endorsing Command and Conquer 3 for GOTY, cause NOD rules.

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#37 Private_Vegas
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halo 3 had a horribly story, you're absolutely right.

SMG and crysis have equal chances i would say for GOTY

mistervengeance

I disagree, but Halo 3 will most likely not be the GOTY regardless.

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#38 locopatho
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Actually does anyone even care that strongly about who gets GOTY? I'm going for Mario but there is around 5+ others that I wouldn't mind getting the honour.
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#39 Cyberfairy
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Umm, Halo 3 SP 4 hours long? It took 12 hours for me to beat it on heroic, and thats the second playthrough. I can tell you mario didnt take me so long to beat either. Those 60 stars took around 9 hours.
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#40 ByFly
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halo 3 had a horribly story, you're absolutely right.

SMG and crysis have equal chances i would say for GOTY

mistervengeance

so then will you tell me whats so great about SMG and Crysis story?? Dont forget to put in whats so great about its story... I kinda expect SMG to be the same story as super mario with a bit of spicey... Crysis well i cant say anything about it because id ont know anything about it...

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#41 hungrycow
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In reallity it's just an epic battle between SMG and Halo 3. Even though most people whould say SMG,I'm almost 100% sure Halo 3 is going to get it because Gamespot loves Microsoft.

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#42 DuDisNow
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Advances story telling? It's the same story just in space!
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#43 bretthorror
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Umm, Halo 3 SP 4 hours long? It took 12 hours for me to beat it on heroic, and thats the second playthrough. I can tell you mario didnt take me so long to beat either. Those 60 stars took around 9 hours.Cyberfairy

Keep playing at at least open up all the levels before you say it's too easy. Those 60 stars are so kids can beat it and see the ending. The real gamers stick around and there is challenge to be had.

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#44 Kickinurass
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SMG is far from a sure winner for GOTY; there are a handful of other games that excelled this year. Coming from an Xbox fanboy, I'd like to see Halo 3 win so I gloat about over system wars, but if SMG won, it might spur Rare to release a sequel to Conkers: Live and Reloaded. Damn that was a great game...

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#45 Weslii
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Advances story telling? It's the same story just in space!DuDisNow

No. If you read the library, the story is much different. You unlock a part of the story.
It really isn't about rescuing Peach btw, you just happen to rescue her in the end :P
Especially in this game it seems like Mario doesn't give a crap about Peach :P
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#46 Danm_999
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In reallity it's just an epic battle between SMG and Halo 3. Even though most people whould say SMG,I'm almost 100% sure Halo 3 is going to get it because Gamespot loves Microsoft.

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I can't see Halo 3 being a contender, Crysis seemed to impress GameSpot so much they felt it was the apex of the FPS genre, leading me to believe it would be hard for Halo 3 to win.

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#47 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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"Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer"

:lol: I can't help but laugh at this fanboy. And to think he's actually serious, pity.

SMG looks like a great game, but games like World in Conflict, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, and Halo 3 are going to give it stiff competition. Personally, I think World in Conflict deserves it -- or possibly Halo 3; both are amazing games.

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#48 mistervengeance
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halo 3 had a horribly story, you're absolutely right.

SMG and crysis have equal chances i would say for GOTY

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so then will you tell me whats so great about SMG and Crysis story?? Dont forget to put in whats so great about its story... I kinda expect SMG to be the same story as super mario with a bit of spicey... Crysis well i cant say anything about it because id ont know anything about it...

wow are you serious

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SMG will be GOTY without a doubt. The Xbox 360 had some awesome games too, like Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, and COD4, but SMG tops all of those.
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i mean c'mon i know this is a individual site and all but i'd think being the HIGHEST RATED GAME OF ALL TIME AND A MASTERPIECE would separate Super Mario Galaxy from the pack.

A new Mario ending, great physics, great level design, great art direction, great music, what isn't good about this game?

If it doesn't win GOTY here then,... well how can't it? How can a game that dethrones the Ocarina of Time not be No.1 here?

Its just,... that ending. So, unexpected. I mean,... God? I was like "are you serious? God?"

It has tremendous replayability.

Halo 3= 4 hours on lengendary and online multiplayer

Yeah, thats cool and all but Halo 3 doesn't really do anything to advance the FPS genre, nor Halo. (yeah yeah forge whatever thats minor. that can add fun but it isn't that big a deal)

Super Mario Galaxy doesn't just advance platformers, it advances story telling, and game design period.

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You think it's that simple to innovate in fps games? Why do you think nintendo hasn't gone to that path? They are afraid, so instead they just stick with genres that has absolutely no competition in.