So can SW agree on an elite 5 in terms of graphics?

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#1 Mozelleple112
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We have elite devs, elite games, elite everything but it seems when it comes to graphics we only have specific 'kings' (e.g. jacket king, lighting king etc.. all ridiculous...)

But what would you say about these being the best looking games on any platform:

1. Crysis
2. Metro 2033
3. Shogun II: Total War
4. The Witcher 2

5. Arma II

This is considering everything technical. Scale counts. AI on screen counts. View distance counts. Etc...

I was going to add pics but I remember how every one complains no matter what pictures I select. I either I'll pick "crappy pic makes game look worse" or "lulz bullshot" so all I can say his please refer to

GAMEPLAY VIDEOSto see for yourself if you do not have these games or an adaquate machine to run them

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#2 turtlethetaffer
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Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

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#3 DavidianMH
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Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

turtlethetaffer
Yeah, this sounds about right :roll: Though that is a pretty good list you've got there TC.
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#4 NaveedLife
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I said right games in wrong order, although Some games I find to be very close or even better than a couple of those, BUT those being on PC makes them win.

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#5 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

DavidianMH

Yeah, this sounds about right :roll: Though that is a pretty good list you've got there TC.

Hey it's true. There will be people who challenge and contest that list. Hell there are people on this forum who are against free DLC.

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#7 Mozelleple112
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Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

turtlethetaffer
Hmm I have all of the aforementioned games I can run all of them very close to maximum settings (always highest with 1080p resolution) Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2 require some limits (e.g. motion blur and depth of field turned off) and too me its pretty clear that they are the best (: I also have Crysis 2, Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2, modded Oblivion, and Stalker CoP, Empire Total War etc :P which would come straight after
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#8 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

Mozelleple112

Hmm I have all of the aforementioned games I can run all of them very close to maximum settings (always highest with 1080p resolution) Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2 require some limits (e.g. motion blur and depth of field turned off) and too me its pretty clear that they are the best (: I also have Crysis 2, Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2, modded Oblivion, and Stalker CoP, Empire Total War etc :P which would come straight after

I never said they weren't great looking games or not graphics kings... just that we will not all agree.

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#9 Grawse
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Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

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#10 NaveedLife
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Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

Grawse

Nope :P.

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#11 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

Mozelleple112

Hmm I have all of the aforementioned games I can run all of them very close to maximum settings (always highest with 1080p resolution) Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2 require some limits (e.g. motion blur and depth of field turned off) and too me its pretty clear that they are the best (: I also have Crysis 2, Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2, modded Oblivion, and Stalker CoP, Empire Total War etc :P which would come straight after

Objectively they look amazing, but what he means is that SW will never universally agree on such a list. Which is quite true. :P

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Uncharted 2 is the greatest looking game imho.

It looks better than modded Crysis imho.

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#13 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

turtlethetaffer

Hmm I have all of the aforementioned games I can run all of them very close to maximum settings (always highest with 1080p resolution) Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2 require some limits (e.g. motion blur and depth of field turned off) and too me its pretty clear that they are the best (: I also have Crysis 2, Far Cry 2, Just Cause 2, modded Oblivion, and Stalker CoP, Empire Total War etc :P which would come straight after

I never said they weren't great looking games or not graphics kings... just that we will not all agree.

I didn't criticize your post either. Just said that I own and play pretty much every single game that can be considered a graphics king... :D And also, The Witcher 2 is the most demanding game in my library yet ranks 4th in my opinion... :(
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#14 NaveedLife
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Uncharted 2 is the greatest looking game imho.

It looks better than modded Crysis imho.

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lol you be trollin :P. I honestly enjoyed the visuals of Uncharted 2 more, but Crysis is the technically more impressive game obviously.

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#15 Mozelleple112
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Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

Grawse

I stopped at 5 because the 6th spot would be impossible... Just Cause 2? Far Cry 2 ? modded GTAIV? Mirror's Edge? Stalker SoC 2009? Stalker CoP? Crysis 2?

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#16 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

Mozelleple112

I stopped at 5 because the 6th spot would be impossible... Just Cause 2? Far Cry 2 ? modded GTAIV? Mirror's Edge? Stalker SoC 2009? Stalker CoP? Crysis 2?

The problem is that a game that looks a bit worse than another game, but is on a PC, trumps the other game many times. So games like Uncharted 2 get left behind because PC is so amazing it makes games look like gold :P.

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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

Mozelleple112

I stopped at 5 because the 6th spot would be impossible... Just Cause 2? Far Cry 2 ? modded GTAIV? Mirror's Edge? Stalker SoC 2009? Stalker CoP? Crysis 2?

Just wondering Mozelleple. If the rumors of MGS4 comming to Steam are true, where would you place MGS4 since it'd finally be in HD? :P

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#18 no_more_fayth
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Or you can join us on the side that graphics shouldn't matter that much.

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I think Shogun is ugly x.x, I mean.. it's pretty from a distance, but no surprise, when you pull in it really shows a lack of detail on the individual units and scenery, that obviously wouldn't be so meh in a first personish type game.
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#20 turtlethetaffer
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Or you can join us on the side that graphics shouldn't matter that much.

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Hey! we're on System Wars! Of course they matter that much!

Nah man I agree with you though.

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#21 DavidianMH
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[QUOTE="DavidianMH"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's not happening. We are on System Wars.

turtlethetaffer

Yeah, this sounds about right :roll: Though that is a pretty good list you've got there TC.

Hey it's true. There will be people who challenge and contest that list. Hell there are people on this forum who are against free DLC.

Oh, that's not what I meant, I was agreeing with you. Maybe I should have removed that :rollface: :?
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#22 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"] Yeah, this sounds about right :roll: Though that is a pretty good list you've got there TC.DavidianMH

Hey it's true. There will be people who challenge and contest that list. Hell there are people on this forum who are against free DLC.

Oh, that's not what I meant, I was agreeing with you. Maybe I should have removed that :rollface: :?

lol we learn from our mistakes :P.

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#23 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Why stop at 5?
6. Just Cause 2 (PC)

ChubbyGuy40

I stopped at 5 because the 6th spot would be impossible... Just Cause 2? Far Cry 2 ? modded GTAIV? Mirror's Edge? Stalker SoC 2009? Stalker CoP? Crysis 2?

Just wondering Mozelleple. If the rumors of MGS4 comming to Steam are true, where would you place MGS4 since it'd finally be in HD? :P

Well out of the console games I have played I would only place Killzone 3, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2 and Alan Wake ahead of it... Going from 1024x768 temportal AA --> 1920x1080p 8 X AA, possible clean up of some poor textures could make MGS4... right round the top 10 mark on PC :)

cos when I run my PC games in 1024x768... they look butt ugly... :twisted:

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#24 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] I stopped at 5 because the 6th spot would be impossible... Just Cause 2? Far Cry 2 ? modded GTAIV? Mirror's Edge? Stalker SoC 2009? Stalker CoP? Crysis 2?

Mozelleple112

Just wondering Mozelleple. If the rumors of MGS4 comming to Steam are true, where would you place MGS4 since it'd finally be in HD? :P

Well out of the console games I have played I would only place Killzone 3, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2 and Alan Wake ahead of it... Going from 1024x768 temportal AA --> 1920x1080p 8 X AA, possible clean up of some poor textures could make MGS4... right round the top 10 mark on PC :)

Yeah you pretty much nailed it.

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="DavidianMH"] Yeah, this sounds about right :roll: Though that is a pretty good list you've got there TC.DavidianMH

Hey it's true. There will be people who challenge and contest that list. Hell there are people on this forum who are against free DLC.

Oh, that's not what I meant, I was agreeing with you. Maybe I should have removed that :rollface: :?

Oh whoops. It's a bit more difficult to have emotion conveyed over teh interwebs. Well yeah SW can be ridiculous.

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[QUOTE="DavidianMH"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Hey it's true. There will be people who challenge and contest that list. Hell there are people on this forum who are against free DLC.

turtlethetaffer

Oh, that's not what I meant, I was agreeing with you. Maybe I should have removed that :rollface: :?

Oh whoops. It's a bit more difficult to have emotion conveyed over teh interwebs. Well yeah SW can be ridiculous.

Yeah :lol: you can't tell whether people are serious or just joking from text sometimes. Yeah, System wars can be pretty ridiculous, hell there's a troll thread that's gaining momentum with a 10 year old bashing the Ps3 on the front page XD
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#27 Mozelleple112
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57% of SW agrees with me so far... Its sleepy time where I live but I guess the haters haven't woken up yet ? :?

Gonna have to check that % tomorrow afternoon :D

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I personally agree. However I would put Witcher 2 ahead of Shogun 2.
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#29 Filthybastrd
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Eh, Undecided about W2.. Let's see...

Crysis

Witcher 2

Mero 2033 (I'm no so sure about this one... People used to claim it superior to Crysis and that was far from correct)

?????

??????

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#30 SamiRDuran
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The order might change according to opinion but you got the right games. I agree with that list.
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#31 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Replace ARMA 2 with Mirror's edge. My preference.
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#33 illmatic87
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Replace ARMA 2 with Mirror's edge. My preference.ferret-gamer
^^ and I'd probably make changes to the order.
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#34 Silverbond
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My top 5:

1. Uncharted 3
2. Uncharted 2
3. Resistance 3
4. Killzone 2
5. Killzone 3

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#35 Mozelleple112
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My top 5:

1. Uncharted 3
2. Uncharted 2
3. Resistance 3
4. Killzone 2
5. Killzone 3

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:lol: you forgot God of War 3 ...

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#36 DragonfireXZ95
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Yeah, I agree with the 5 games, maybe not necessarily in that order though. Only modded Crysis beats Witcher 2 though, imo. But then again, we'll never know for sure which one is technically more powerful. We'll have to see what happens when Crytek and CD Projekt both release their DX11(if they are anyway) patches.
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#37 DragonfireXZ95
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My top 5:

1. Uncharted 3
2. Uncharted 2
3. Resistance 3
4. Killzone 2
5. Killzone 3

Silverbond

Lol, the sarcasm in this post is amazing.

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#38 Vesica_Prime
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imo, sony has the best graphics games out there imo. i play crysis maxed out on my $4000 rig & it cant even compete with mw2 (on ps3 of course lol not the 360) watever sony does they make, believe.

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#39 DraugenCP
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I don't think we could ever agree upon a definitive list. The standards are just too variable. For example, Metro 2033 looks better than Arma II and is therefore higher on the list. However, Arma II is arguably more impressive from a technical point of view, seeing as it provides a wide open world whereas Metro 2033 mostly consists of very confined areas.

It's very hard to decide which game has better graphics, as game A might look better but game B might have much more AI on screen and such. Mirror's Edge, for example, is not really a technical marvel, but it is one of the most consistently good-looking games I've played to date. It just looks fantastic from start to finish, bar maybe some simplistic character models. Arma II on the other hand, can look better than Crysis or worse than Battlefield 2 depending on where you're looking.

So yeah, the discussion has too many angles and interpretations, but I think that most people will at least agree that it's a solid list you've provided.

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#40 turtlethetaffer
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Lol I just understood the Pokemon reference in the title. (At least I think it's Pokemon.)

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#41 MrSelf-Destruct
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Just looking at it from a technical standpoint, I see nothing wrong with those choices.

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Same. I'm down, TC.
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#42 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Completely wrong? Who voted that and why?
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#43 DragonfireXZ95
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Completely wrong? Who voted that and why?ocstew
7 people did actually, probably jealous consolites. lol
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#44 kraken2109
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That list is pretty much right. And at those meantioning uncharted and killzone, i hope you're trolling.

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#45 ducati101
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imo, sony has the best graphics games out there imo. i play crysis maxed out on my $4000 rig & it cant even compete with mw2 (on ps3 of course lol not the 360) watever sony does they make, believe.

Vesica_Prime
Either that's sarcasm or your just plain lying.
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#46 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

imo, sony has the best graphics games out there imo. i play crysis maxed out on my $4000 rig & it cant even compete with mw2 (on ps3 of course lol not the 360) watever sony does they make, believe.

ducati101
Either that's sarcasm or your just plain lying.

He's a PC gamer, you can take a guess at what it is. :P
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#47 -Unreal-
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Or you can join us on the side that graphics shouldn't matter that much.

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Why are you in this thread then? :|
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Completely wrong? Who voted that and why?ocstew
I would actually like to know that too :P Not seen a single comment apart from one silly one that supports any kind of argument ^^
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#49 Arach666
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There are better looking games than those on the PSTriple.
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#50 RyuRanVII
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I couldn't agree more.