So doesn't htis mean MGS4 is even less likely to be on the 360.

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#1 Rhaxdric
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I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me...
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There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.
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There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Spartan070
Uh, why?
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^^ Well, that might be possible but sees too utopic for me.
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There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Spartan070

give it up.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Rhaxdric
Uh, why?



yeah that is a good question...i mean when substance came out on Xbox it was just horrible. no one bought it. why make the same mistake twice?
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Maybe MS will get the movie-to-game version. Metal Gear Solid: The official game of the movie.
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As much as I would love to see MGS4 on 360, I doubt it will happen. After Substance came out for the original Xbox, Hideo said that Twin Snakes would be the last MGS on a non-Sony console, and the only reason Twin Snakes was made was a contract Konami made with Nintendo...
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.CaseyWegner

give it up.

Why? I don't have a legitamite reason to believe that they won't.
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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.djxaquaxblue
Uh, why?



yeah that is a good question...i mean when substance came out on Xbox it was just horrible. no one bought it. why make the same mistake twice?

It was also horrible on the PS2 first, "Naked Raidens of Liberty" was a wretched game.
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doens't mean anything, it only takes a mere second if kojima wants MGS4 to be released on the X360, but we all know that's not gonna happen in the first place.
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As much as I would love to see MGS4 on 360, I doubt it will happen. After Substance came out for the original Xbox, Hideo said that Twin Snakes would be the last MGS on a non-Sony console, and the only reason Twin Snakes was made was a contract Konami made with Nintendo...pyroistheone
Substance was also on the PS2....
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As much as I would love to see MGS4 on 360, I doubt it will happen. After Substance came out for the original Xbox, Hideo said that Twin Snakes would be the last MGS on a non-Sony console, and the only reason Twin Snakes was made was a contract Konami made with Nintendo...pyroistheone
Twin Snakes only fault in my eyes were the controls. But yeah, for some reason MGS games only sell well on Sony platforms... Meh, that's no problem with me though.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Rhaxdric
Uh, why?

Why not?
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Konami actually lost money over the Xbox version of Subtance... I don't think they would try that again.
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[QUOTE="pyroistheone"]As much as I would love to see MGS4 on 360, I doubt it will happen. After Substance came out for the original Xbox, Hideo said that Twin Snakes would be the last MGS on a non-Sony console, and the only reason Twin Snakes was made was a contract Konami made with Nintendo...Spartan070
Substance was also on the PS2....

Yup, I sold my Sons of Liberty copy for it.
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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Spartan070
Uh, why?

Why not?

Because Substance sold like crap on the Xbox.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.CaseyWegner

give it up.

for real...
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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Spartan070
Uh, why?

Why not?

gear of war :dub edition(08/09) is coming to the ps3 trust me.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Rhaxdric"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.palaric8
Uh, why?

Why not?

gear of war :dub edition(08/09) is coming to the ps3 trust me.

It's MS first party.
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At the very least, this ensures that PS3 has the movie exclusive. ;) Obviously though, this reaffirms that a 360 version of the game ain't in the cards.
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People, I plan on getting it for PS3, it's not like I'm some rampant lemming off his meds. Still, the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases. By the way, it also BOMBED on the PS2...  I don't care if it comes or not as I'll already have beaten it, I just don't see a reason why it won't. You guys hear all the lemmings clammoring for MGS4? Those are all reasons for a "Substance" styled version to release on 360 and PS3.
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#24 MTBare
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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Rhaxdric"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]There will be a "substance" styled one for 360 and PS3 in 08/09, trust me.Spartan070
Uh, why?

Why not?

gear of war :dub edition(08/09) is coming to the ps3 trust me.

It's MS first party.

I do believe he was mocking you..
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People, I plan on getting it for PS3, it's not like I'm some rampant lemming off his meds. Still, the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases. I don't care if it does or not, I just don't see a reason why it won't. You guys hear all the lemmings clamoring for MGS4? Those are all reasons for a "Substance" styled version to release on 360 and PS3.Spartan070

Because Sony is making the MGS movie for them, and Substance sold bad. There's two.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]People, I plan on getting it for PS3, it's not like I'm some rampant lemming off his meds. Still, the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases. I don't care if it does or not, I just don't see a reason why it won't. You guys hear all the lemmings clamoring for MGS4? Those are all reasons for a "Substance" styled version to release on 360 and PS3.Rhaxdric

Because Sony is making the MGS movie for them, and Substance sold bad. There's two.

I repeat: "the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases..." Plus Substance sold horrible on the PS2 as well. It's the last MGS game, they'll want to bank as much as possible, especially considering the insane development cost for that game.
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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]People, I plan on getting it for PS3, it's not like I'm some rampant lemming off his meds. Still, the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases. I don't care if it does or not, I just don't see a reason why it won't. You guys hear all the lemmings clamoring for MGS4? Those are all reasons for a "Substance" styled version to release on 360 and PS3.Spartan070

Because Sony is making the MGS movie for them, and Substance sold bad. There's two.

I repeat: "the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases..." Plus Substance sold horrible on the PS2 as well. It's the last MGS game, they'll want to bank as much as possible, especially considering the insane development cost for that game.

You didn't comment on my other reason.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]People, I plan on getting it for PS3, it's not like I'm some rampant lemming off his meds. Still, the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases. I don't care if it does or not, I just don't see a reason why it won't. You guys hear all the lemmings clamoring for MGS4? Those are all reasons for a "Substance" styled version to release on 360 and PS3.Rhaxdric

Because Sony is making the MGS movie for them, and Substance sold bad. There's two.

I repeat: "the fact that MGS substance sold like crap years ago doesn't mean SQUAT when it comes to 2009 Konami releases..." Plus Substance sold horrible on the PS2 as well. It's the last MGS game, they'll want to bank as much as possible, especially considering the insane development cost for that game.

You didn't comment on my other reason.

I don't see how that factors outside of deals involving the movie, like distributions or something.
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Sony Pictures is doing Ghost Rider and 2K games is making it a multiplatform title, right?

The Spiderman games based from the movie were not made by Sony...
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spiderman movie is sony but there's still a spiderman movie game on xbox

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:lol: Cows act as if a Metal Gear game has never been on a non-Sony console

Metal Gear was on NES

MGS: Twin Snakes on Gamecube

MGS 2: Substance on Xbox

MGS on PC

:lol: cows

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It was actually first on a machine that was made by all kinds of different companies...

The MSX.

Did they even make Metal Gear 2 in the US?
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in regards to the OP,

will, Sony also responsible for Spider man movies,, that dosnt mean the games cant come to other consoles   :)

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I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me... Rhaxdric

Sony hopes to make a movie people want to see--at this point, they obviously believe one such movie is MGS.  This, in no way, awards them decision-making power at Konami, a completely separate entitry.

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It was actually first on a machine that was made by all kinds of different companies...

The MSX.

Did they even make Metal Gear 2 in the US?
TekkenMaster606

u can play MG and MG2 in the MGS3 S          :)

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[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me... CubeJL

Sony hopes to make a movie people want to see--at this point, they obviously believe one such movie is MGS.  This, in no way, awards them decision-making power at Konami, a completely separate entitry.

Thats the truth, in the real world, if the PS3 continues to struggle, and say the 360 continues to sell well, there is no reason to think a MGS game will not come to the 360. Its really up to Konami, games are costing alot of money to develop, so in reality it makes alot of sense to go multiplat, imagine you are Konami, and you See Gears selling 3 million, and you see the 360 owners supporting the system, and the games released, if there is a market,a smart company will expliot it

I am in no way implying that the MGS game for PS3 will be ported, it may never see the 360, but eventually, a 360 MGS game looks pretty likely

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Since substance sold like crap. Why would they make MGS4 Substance to be ported to 360 when it will justsell like crap? and of course it'll sell like crap on PS3, because everyone will have MGS4. Lemmings whats wrong, Halo 3 not enough.
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[QUOTE="CubeJL"]

[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me... crispytheone88

Sony hopes to make a movie people want to see--at this point, they obviously believe one such movie is MGS. This, in no way, awards them decision-making power at Konami, a completely separate entitry.

Thats the truth, in the real world, if the PS3 continues to struggle, and say the 360 continues to sell well, there is no reason to think a MGS game will not come to the 360. Its really up to Konami, games are costing alot of money to develop, so in reality it makes alot of sense to go multiplat, imagine you are Konami, and you See Gears selling 3 million, and you see the 360 owners supporting the system, and the games released, if there is a market,a smart company will expliot it

I am in no way implying that the MGS game for PS3 will be ported, it may never see the 360, but eventually, a 360 MGS game looks pretty likely



 However when you have Hideo Kojima refusing to port MGS4 so you would need to get another director ...
 You also need a way to fit the game on DVD -- it requires a duel layer BD (50gb) ... what happens with all the extras MGS4: sub will have ... making the PS3 verision use the full 50gb or possbily even a second disc. ( unless Konima decide to simply put the game on 6 DVD9's ...)
 The controls would also need to be re-done ( no tilt on 360)
 The code would have to be re-written ( its been optimised for PS3 ... )

 In the end unless PS3 for some reason is selling extremly bad -- ie SONY dosnt even come close to 6 million by March expect it to stay PS3 exclusive ...
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[QUOTE="crispytheone88"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me... choasgod

Sony hopes to make a movie people want to see--at this point, they obviously believe one such movie is MGS. This, in no way, awards them decision-making power at Konami, a completely separate entitry.

Thats the truth, in the real world, if the PS3 continues to struggle, and say the 360 continues to sell well, there is no reason to think a MGS game will not come to the 360. Its really up to Konami, games are costing alot of money to develop, so in reality it makes alot of sense to go multiplat, imagine you are Konami, and you See Gears selling 3 million, and you see the 360 owners supporting the system, and the games released, if there is a market,a smart company will expliot it

I am in no way implying that the MGS game for PS3 will be ported, it may never see the 360, but eventually, a 360 MGS game looks pretty likely



 However when you have Hideo Kojima refusing to port MGS4 so you would need to get another director ...
 You also need a way to fit the game on DVD -- it requires a duel layer BD (50gb) ... what happens with all the extras MGS4: sub will have ... making the PS3 verision use the full 50gb or possbily even a second disc. ( unless Konima decide to simply put the game on 6 DVD9's ...)
 The controls would also need to be re-done ( no tilt on 360)
 The code would have to be re-written ( its been optimised for PS3 ... )

 In the end unless PS3 for some reason is selling extremly bad -- ie SONY dosnt even come close to 6 million by March expect it to stay PS3 exclusive ...

Who knows what truly would "need to be done" to bring the game to 360?  I'm not going to pretend that I'm among the programming-elite and offer my opinion.  What I can tell you is, "don't believe everything you hear".  There's a lot of money being thrown around to protect Sony's investment in Bluray. 

More importantly, the question was "do you think that Sony making the MGS movie would preclude a 360 port of the game".  My answer to that question is, "no, I don't."

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[QUOTE="crispytheone88"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

[QUOTE="Rhaxdric"]I mean since Sony is kinda making the MGS movie, doesn't that mean MGS4 won't be on the 360? Just seems like common courtesy to me... choasgod

Sony hopes to make a movie people want to see--at this point, they obviously believe one such movie is MGS. This, in no way, awards them decision-making power at Konami, a completely separate entitry.

Thats the truth, in the real world, if the PS3 continues to struggle, and say the 360 continues to sell well, there is no reason to think a MGS game will not come to the 360. Its really up to Konami, games are costing alot of money to develop, so in reality it makes alot of sense to go multiplat, imagine you are Konami, and you See Gears selling 3 million, and you see the 360 owners supporting the system, and the games released, if there is a market,a smart company will expliot it

I am in no way implying that the MGS game for PS3 will be ported, it may never see the 360, but eventually, a 360 MGS game looks pretty likely



 However when you have Hideo Kojima refusing to port MGS4 so you would need to get another director ...
 You also need a way to fit the game on DVD -- it requires a duel layer BD (50gb) ... what happens with all the extras MGS4: sub will have ... making the PS3 verision use the full 50gb or possbily even a second disc. ( unless Konima decide to simply put the game on 6 DVD9's ...)
 The controls would also need to be re-done ( no tilt on 360)
 The code would have to be re-written ( its been optimised for PS3 ... )

 In the end unless PS3 for some reason is selling extremly bad -- ie SONY dosnt even come close to 6 million by March expect it to stay PS3 exclusive ...

First if you read my post I said

"I am in no way implying that the MGS game for PS3 will be ported, it may never see the 360, but eventually, a 360 MGS game looks pretty likely"

So I personally feel that MGS4 is somewhat unlikely for 360, but not impossible

As for the reason you listed, they are very minor issues, the game code may have been "optimized" for the PS3, but the fact remains, both systems have the same core processor. As for the 50GB, its called Redundacy, the Blu-ray is slower than the DVD9 drive in the 360, so they repeat alot of the information to reduce seek times and increase load times, its actually a very good idea, I think, so the basic game code is not close to 50gb, and Microsoft has slightly better compression technology than Sony, you would be looking at 1 DVD9, maybe 2 at the most

All of this is speculation, and in reality all we have to go on is history, even though the Xbox1 sold much worse than the 360 is currently selling, Konami STILL released a MGS game on the system, the 360 is currently in the lead for this gen, it stands to reason Konami would consider making a MGS game for the 360, it makes business sense

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I'd be very, very surprised if they announced MGSIV for the 360.