So, Everyone Basically Dropped Health Packs After Halo Came Out

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#1 Chief_Vash
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With Halo's use of a regenerating shield, it seems that most games are doing the same thing. Except some games don't make sense when they use it (ie: no shield or anything), it still serves to improve gameplay.

In Bioshock, as well as countless others nowadays, you simply need to take cover for some time before you die and you'll be good as new. Most games do this nowadays, and it's great. I guess thanks to Halo.

I can't think of another game that did it before Halo (eventually, Halo 2 got rid of health packs completely, but Halo introduced the recharge shield). Yay for innovation.
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#2 Adrian_Cloud
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Dude its been done before in other games, and games like MOH still do health packs. rofl, how new are you to the fps genre? I mean to a certain degree it was even done in MGS games.
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#3 Kushstrain
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because in real life you dont use a health pack to cure yourself..you just gotta wait it out to get better..idk but it is weird..
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#4 Koolsen
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Um... Bioshock DOES use health packs.
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#5 GarchomPro
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Health Pack seems more logical especially for games like CS
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#6 ParasiteDemon
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Um... Bioshock DOES use health packs.Koolsen

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In Bioshock, as well as countless others nowadays, you simply need to take cover for some time before you die and you'll be good as new. Most games do this nowadays, and it's great. I guess thanks to Halo.
Chief_Vash

Bioshock uses health packs.

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With Halo's use of a regenerating shield, it seems that most games are doing the same thing. Except some games don't make sense when they use it (ie: no shield or anything), it still serves to improve gameplay.

In Bioshock, as well as countless others nowadays, you simply need to take cover for some time before you die and you'll be good as new. Most games do this nowadays, and it's great. I guess thanks to Halo.

I can't think of another game that did it before Halo (eventually, Halo 2 got rid of health packs completely, but Halo introduced the recharge shield). Yay for innovation.Chief_Vash
stop reading after u mentioned bioshock...pretty much u havent even play it...cuz u have to use first aid kits
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#9 Sir-Marwin105
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You have to use Health Packs in Bioshock.:?
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#10 MIYAMOTOnext007
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Perfect Dark had recharging/regenerating before Halo.:|
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#11 Ragashahs
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not really many are now turning to the gears and vegas type of health system where you take damage you get near death so you have to take cover until you back to normal.
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#12 NavigatorsGhost
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Games like Resistance online uses regenerating health but thats because the game doesn't have classes like RTCW where you have a medic that can heal other players. Running around collecting health would be dumb.
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#13 halokillerz
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so is halo the first game to use this?
or was there games b4 that used it, cuz i cant remember any b4 halo and i never owned a PS.
but personnally i hate having to use healthpacks
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#14 rdo
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With Halo's use of a regenerating shield, it seems that most games are doing the same thing. Except some games don't make sense when they use it (ie: no shield or anything), it still serves to improve gameplay.

In Bioshock, as well as countless others nowadays, you simply need to take cover for some time before you die and you'll be good as new. Most games do this nowadays, and it's great. I guess thanks to Halo.

I can't think of another game that did it before Halo (eventually, Halo 2 got rid of health packs completely, but Halo introduced the recharge shield). Yay for innovation.Chief_Vash
???? you haven't played bioshock. bioshock uses health kits, not regeneration. halo used both, is your sheild wen down your health started depleating. while your sheild regenerated you health didn't. you needed a health pack.
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Everyone and everything? Half-Life 2, Bioshock, Far Cry, Doom 3, F.E.A.R and a bunch of other games I'm too lazy to list had health packs yet came after Halo.
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#16 hamstergeddon
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Halo did have Health Packs :|
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#17 dgsag
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Halo and Bioshock have health packs, you phail.
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#18 killerkop
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so is halo the first game to use this?
or was there games b4 that used it, cuz i cant remember any b4 halo and i never owned a PS.
but personnally i hate having to use healthpackshalokillerz

Yeah, really its so lame having to use something like strategy to survive in a FPS. I mean, ITS A FPS,you should be able to just run in a room and kill people and not even get hurt. :roll:

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Dude its been done before in other games, and games like MOH still do health packs. rofl, how new are you to the fps genre? I mean to a certain degree it was even done in MGS games. Adrian_Cloud

He didn't say no other game uses health packs. And what game did it before? :?

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In Bioshock, as well as countless others nowadays, you simply need to take cover for some time before you die and you'll be good as new. Most games do this nowadays, and it's great. I guess thanks to Halo. Chief_Vash

Don't know about others, but when I played through BioShock, you had a health bar, and used health packs and food to keep it up...

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#21 deleted_basic
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LOL, that's not an example of innovation
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#22 gamerchris810
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Halo did have Health Packs :|hamstergeddon

Its true, :lol:

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Dude its been done before in other games, and games like MOH still do health packs. rofl, how new are you to the fps genre? I mean to a certain degree it was even done in MGS games. Ninja-Vox

He didn't say no other game uses health packs. And what game did it before? :?

He said "most games" made after the release of Halo started using the self-regenerative healing method. This is what people are responding to It's not true
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#24 hello12367890
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it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.
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#25 dgsag
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it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.hello12367890

Saved FPSs?

Tell me, did Half-life flop? Did Doom flop? Did Far Cry flop? Were these games saved by a consolified health system? No.

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#26 washere12
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[QUOTE="Koolsen"]Um... Bioshock DOES use health packs.ParasiteDemon

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WORD he probably misssed out on bioshock too, wat a loser

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#27 -Tretiak
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Dude.. Halo had health packs.
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#28 tomarlyn
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Halo had health packs, they didn't change it until Halo 2.
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#29 Planeforger
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it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.hello12367890

It 'saved FPSs' by making them making them easier for console players?

Heh, I thought they just added it to make up for the relatively poor controls (compared to the PC) on the Xbox controller.
In any case, I haven't played a single shooter with this regenerating health system, and I've played quite a few...so perhaps this mostly appears on console shooters?

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[QUOTE="hello12367890"]it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.Planeforger

It 'saved FPSs' by making them making them easier for console players?

Heh, I thought they just added it to make up for the relatively poor controls (compared to the PC) on the Xbox controller.
In any case, I haven't played a single shooter with this regenerating health system, and I've played quite a few...so perhaps this mostly appears on console shooters?

i always thought pc controls were harder
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it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.hello12367890

Than stop sucking at FPS and stop getting your ass shot up.

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[QUOTE="hello12367890"]it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.dgsag

Saved FPSs?

Tell me, did Half-life flop? Did Doom flop? Did Far Cry flop? Were these games saved by a consolified health system? No.

This is why the whole console shooter fanboys annoy me. It's this or something like auto aim is necessary

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#33 Carmilla31
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because in real life you dont use a health pack to cure yourself..you just gotta wait it out to get better..idk but it is weird..Kushstrain
Of course. If you get shot in real life all you need to do is find te nearest box, kneel behind it, and youre as good as new in 45 seconds.
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#34 -Sora
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didnt Combat Evolved have Health packs?

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#35 dgsag
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because in real life you dont use a health pack to cure yourself..you just gotta wait it out to get better..idk but it is weird..Kushstrain

Maybe in your dimension... :roll:

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#36 ArisShadows
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I hate health packs..
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#37 MgamerBD
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[QUOTE="Koolsen"]Um... Bioshock DOES use health packs.ParasiteDemon

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#38 VideoGameGuy
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*cuts self with knife and stand perfectly still* ......dang it... *goes to get band-aid*
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#39 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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Health Pack seems more logical especially for games like CSGarchomPro
health packs are goodin counter strike? that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. counter strike is about realism, not health packs
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#40 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I hate health packs..VideoGameGuy
*cuts self with knife and stand perfectly still* ......dang it... *goes to get band-aid*

I still hate 'em..

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#41 metalisticpain
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i have played a few games when u regenerated from under 25hp to max of 25 hp? this was in fear
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#42 taikthebate
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i have played a few games when u regenerated from under 25hp to max of 25 hp? this was in fearmetalisticpain

yes I liked it somewhat.

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#43 hello12367890
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.taikthebate

Saved FPSs?

Tell me, did Half-life flop? Did Doom flop? Did Far Cry flop? Were these games saved by a consolified health system? No.

This is why the whole console shooter fanboys annoy me. It's this or something like auto aim is necessary

i play pc fps i play cs:s and bf2 i play.i just perfer reneration than looking for stupid health packs
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#44 taikthebate
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[QUOTE="taikthebate"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.hello12367890

Saved FPSs?

Tell me, did Half-life flop? Did Doom flop? Did Far Cry flop? Were these games saved by a consolified health system? No.

This is why the whole console shooter fanboys annoy me. It's this or something like auto aim is necessary

i play pc fps i play cs:s and bf2 i play.i just perfer reneration than looking for stupid health packs

With regeneration you could barely lose a fight and regenerate by hiding. How does that reward skill?

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#45 Chief_Vash
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:P

I mixed up Bioshock with "The Darkness". I rented both games recently. What was I thinking. Haha.

OH well, the original statement is sound, even though the example was wrong. I wasn't aware that Perfect Dark had a regenerative health system, that was basically my question.

Now, for all the idiots posting "Halo did have health packs lol". Don't you know how to read? I clearly posted that it was about the regenerative shield in the very first, original post. It was in parenthesis. For crying out loud.

Reading Comprehension FTW.
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#46 hello12367890
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[QUOTE="hello12367890"][QUOTE="taikthebate"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="hello12367890"]it saved fpses because once you killed one guy you were already low on health and then next guy turns the corner and ur dead unless you pulled something amazing off.taikthebate

Saved FPSs?

Tell me, did Half-life flop? Did Doom flop? Did Far Cry flop? Were these games saved by a consolified health system? No.

This is why the whole console shooter fanboys annoy me. It's this or something like auto aim is necessary

i play pc fps i play cs:s and bf2 i play.i just perfer reneration than looking for stupid health packs

With regeneration you could barely lose a fight and regenerate by hiding. How does that reward skill?

with regeneration is more of a chance that you and the other person you are in fire fight with are both at full health.when ever i die in cs its usaually cause im low on health.
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#47 Dahaka-UK
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I don't like the idea of rechargable health, makes the game way too easy. I like in Half Life 2 you had to find medi kits, adds exploration element into the game. Basically your just shooting and covering throughout the hole game if it's rechargable health and theres absolutly no need to look around for extra health.
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#48 PotatoSan
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I think it's a lot cooler than health packs. Even if Halo wasn't the first to do it, it probably did make it more widespread.
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#49 cyborgjak427
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Halo 2 pulled it off, but I still think that some games still use health packs.
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#50 Chief_Vash
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Yeah, some games still use them, but a lot of them are going the way Halo 2 went. Especially FPS's.