So far Ninja Gaiden 2 is the best action game so far this gen.

I agree.

I do feel as though NG2 is MUCH a better game than it's prequel. I just don't get why people dont think so. It's faster, more bad***, and has great level design.

My only one problem with the game is the framerate at that staircase (you know what Im talking about if you played it). Besides that, there's really nothing wrong with it and everything just feels right.

I can't stress it anymore- NG2 is better than NG1/ NGS. So much more fluid and really fun.

And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.TekkenMaster606

that's kind of stuck up.

urm...NG2 felt very cheap imo,NGS i think is betterSony-tha-champ0

yes..but NGS is a shiny port with some extras

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.Heydanbud92

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]urm...NG2 felt very cheap imo,NGS i think is betterkillerfist

yes..but NGS is a shiny port with some extras

I have to disagree, seeing as NG2 didnt live up to NG which I found lacking says alot to me. NG games have very poor stories and little character development. The only saving grace for their games is their gameplay which I personally have never found that exceptional. You have cheap enemies that increase the difficulty.

i personally enjoyed HS and DMC4 alot more then any of the NGs. HS only flaw was that it was short, as for NG being more technical, when I played NGS the cheap enemies just forced me to do alot of bouncing off the walls with a jumping slash. I wouldnt say that was more technical.

HS had great gameplay and character development, with a very entertaining story and set of characters. DMC 4 was another great over the top action game. I loved the over the top cinematics and the nero Boss grab moves. I do agree backtracking kind of sucks but then again with a new character and improved enemies it kept it pretty fresh.

Oh yea and NMH sucked IMO big time. It had great Boss fights but man did they put you through repetitive tourture to earn the right to get a boss fight. I counldnt stomache it to bother finishing it. I just wished if they were gonna spend so little time on enemy and mission variety (assasination wise, not mini game style wise) that they should have just done it SOTC style and let you fight only Bosses.

I think god of war on the psp is better

And on the handheld side GoW: CoO is the best action game I have ever played on the small screen.TekkenMaster606

That I can agree with.

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]urm...NG2 felt very cheap imo,NGS i think is betterSony-tha-champ0

yes..but NGS is a shiny port with some extras

imo NG2 is the best action/adventure game so far

uncharted is not really the same btw. NG = hacking and slashing (beat em up) uncharted is a 3rd person shooter

But on a serious level- how can you actually like NGS more than NG2?

It just doesn't make sense imo.

Unless you really hated that rolling boss in those caves >.>

The weakest level in the game though, all around, is probably the first level. Best level is the last couple (which really seem like one HUGE one).

Defiantly.

The game is "cheap" because gamers suck at it.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.JackDaniels121

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

I agree, NG2 is a tad bit harder in my experience. I beat NGB on Master Ninja but I'm having a hard time with NG2 on mentor. The bosses in 2 are kinda cheap tho. NGB's bosses were more of a challenge imo

Defiantly.

The game is "cheap" because gamers suck at it.

Aljosa23

agreed, people that call it cheap obviously never played NG XD, ng2 is my favorite action game this year

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.JackDaniels121

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

my little brother did, and I am better at NG than he is. I just don't like NG2 enough to play it.

[QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.killerfist

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

I agree, NG2 is a tad bit harder in my experience. I beat NGB on Master Ninja but I'm having a hard time with NG2 on mentor. The bosses in 2 are kinda cheap tho. NGB's bosses were more of a challenge imo

What boss is cheap exactly? Chances are you just don't realize a technique.

Im not seeing it. I'd understand if you said something like the horseman in NG1 because of the sucky bow (fixed in sigma) or the dragons but NG2? What are you getting at? Or do you mean the 102 bosses at the end of the game?

NG1 was a bit more cheap imo. And one more thing to remember- the guys only grab you and suicide/ chainsaw if you aren't moving/ button smashing

yup. until god of war 3 that ismephisto_11

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.JackDaniels121

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

I agree, NG2 is a tad bit harder in my experience. I beat NGB on Master Ninja but I'm having a hard time with NG2 on mentor. The bosses in 2 are kinda cheap tho. NGB's bosses were more of a challenge imo

What boss is cheap exactly? Chances are you just don't realize a technique.

Im not seeing it. I'd understand if you said something like the horseman in NG1 because of the sucky bow (fixed in sigma) but NG2? What are you getting at? Or do you mean the 102 bosses at the end of the game?

no I mean the bosses in 2 are cheap as in: WAY TOO EASY

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

even with the heal save points it was harder than the first, have you tried mentor mode, OMG insane, how ever master ninja i did ok.

heavenly sword is ok, i would in no way say it DESTROYS ng2.

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. 1. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the 2. environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

1. Is this a joke? By comparison, NG2's enemies can pretty much single handedly take down much more health than the pretty much gunmen of the first.

2. Uhh... it was pretty much one environment throughout and some generic lava fields/ etc.

3. considering the fact that you said HS, one can only assume you'e a PS3 fanboy.

[QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And I've played practically all of them. Heavenly Sword had great presentation and high production values but at it's core the gameplay mechanics are very weak. No More Heroes was a lot of fun but the difficulty left something to be desired. Had great audio though. DMC4 featured way too much back tracking and kind of felt half baked. Seriously, NG2 is the best action game so far this generation. The combat is fluid and responsive and aside from a few camera control issues the controls are spot on. It's probably a little too difficult for most gamers and I'm sure that generates a lot of hate.killerfist

that's kind of stuck up.

Not really. Not so much on the first level of difficulty, but besides that, all around, NG2 is harder than NG1, and already very hard game. I'd like to see you play NG2 on Mentor difficulty

Heck, I'd like to see you honestly say you can get past the last boss on normal even, i doubt most can to be honest.

I agree, NG2 is a tad bit harder in my experience. I beat NGB on Master Ninja but I'm having a hard time with NG2 on mentor. The bosses in 2 are kinda cheap tho. NGB's bosses were more of a challenge imo

What boss is cheap exactly? Chances are you just don't realize a technique.

Im not seeing it. I'd understand if you said something like the horseman in NG1 because of the sucky bow (fixed in sigma) but NG2? What are you getting at? Or do you mean the 102 bosses at the end of the game?

no I mean the bosses in 2 are cheap as in: WAY TOO EASY

But if you found the bosses in two easy, then good for you, I didn't, at all. The ending boss gives me a heart attack. Alma and Doku were easy for me.

Doesn't matter though. I still stand by my 2 was funner than 1 statement

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

I can see someone has never played Master Ninja Mode.

And :lol: at HS being better than NG2. Are you for real?

And on the handheld side GoW: CoO is the best action game I have ever played on the small screen.TekkenMaster606

Zelda PH > GOW COO = Ninja Gaiden dragon swords according to gamespot

[QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. 1. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the 2. environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

JackDaniels121

1. Is this a joke? By comparison, NG2's enemies can pretty much single handedly take down much more health than the pretty much gunmen of the first.

2. Uhh... it was pretty much one environment throughout and some generic lava fields/ etc.

3. considering the fact that you said HS, one can only assume you'e a PS3 fanboy.

No, it's not a joke. I was being perfectly serious about my complaints. The original game offered a lot more than just gunmen. One environment throughout? Generic lava fields? Did you PLAY the original game? It sure doesn't sound like it. As for the PS3 fanboy comment, if you go to my profile page you'll see that I've reviewed about 7 or 8 360 games to one, yes that's right ONE, ps3 game.

God of War Chains of Olympus is better.

[QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

Aljosa23

I can see someone has never played Master Ninja Mode.

And :lol: at HS being better than NG2. Are you for real?

No, I didn't play master ninja mode. I made my comparisons based on the default difficulty from both games. The original kicked your ass a LOT harder. And yeah, I felt Heavenly Sword was a better game than Ninja Gaiden 2. Excuse me for having a different opinion. It was WAY more fun.

[QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. 1. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the 2. environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

1. Is this a joke? By comparison, NG2's enemies can pretty much single handedly take down much more health than the pretty much gunmen of the first.

2. Uhh... it was pretty much one environment throughout and some generic lava fields/ etc.

3. considering the fact that you said HS, one can only assume you'e a PS3 fanboy.

No, it's not a joke. I was being perfectly serious about my complaints. The original game offered a lot more than just gunmen. One environment throughout? Generic lava fields? Did you PLAY the original game? It sure doesn't sound like it. As for the PS3 fanboy comment, if you go to my profile page you'll see that I've reviewed about 7 or 8 360 games to one, yes that's right ONE, ps3 game.

The original game started in the village, moved to the airship, then went into the ruins field. It basically stayed there. There was a cavern, a, I guess you'd call train depot, a lava area, the church, and then that's really it. How can you say it wasn't pretty much one environment? Everything was that bluish grey color.

NG2 has the village, an airship, some crazy fields, the demon caverns, venice, new york city, empire state building, and basically defining stages.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]And on the handheld side GoW: CoO is the best action game I have ever played on the small screen.MarloStanfield

Zelda PH > GOW COO = Ninja Gaiden dragon swords according to gamespot

PH isn't a straight up action game though.

God of War Chains of Olympus is better.

Nike_Air

according to a person on a messageboard, and we dont know if you're biased

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

I can see someone has never played Master Ninja Mode.

And :lol: at HS being better than NG2. Are you for real?

No, I didn't play master ninja mode. I made my comparisons based on the default difficulty from both games. The original kicked your ass a LOT harder. And yeah, I felt Heavenly Sword was a better game than Ninja Gaiden 2. Excuse me for having a different opinion. It was WAY more fun.

I wish I liked HS. But it's quite literally repetitive button smashing. I hate that

Yup, NG2 is the best action game I've played in a long time. The best NG game to date.

HSword was fun, but way too short.

DMC4 just wasn't that good, IMO.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

creeping-deth87

I can see someone has never played Master Ninja Mode.

And :lol: at HS being better than NG2. Are you for real?

No, I didn't play master ninja mode. I made my comparisons based on the default difficulty from both games. The original kicked your ass a LOT harder. And yeah, I felt Heavenly Sword was a better game than Ninja Gaiden 2. Excuse me for having a different opinion. It was WAY more fun.

[QUOTE="creeping-deth87"][QUOTE="JackDaniels121"][QUOTE="creeping-deth87"]

Um, no, Ninja Gaiden 2 is an unsightly disgrace compared to its prequel. 1. I would also love to hear how anyone can say it's a harder game than the original, seeing as how every save point regenerates your health and you have that health recovery system at the end of each skirmish in the sequel. The first one was way harder on you, and was a MUCH better game. The enemies were way more fun to fight, the boss battles were much more engrossing, and the 2. environments were a lot less boring than they are in NG2. Heavenly Sword DESTROYES Ninja Gaiden 2 in every single way. Gameplay, presentation, everything. I was incredibly disappointed with Ninja Gaiden 2.

JackDaniels121

1. Is this a joke? By comparison, NG2's enemies can pretty much single handedly take down much more health than the pretty much gunmen of the first.

2. Uhh... it was pretty much one environment throughout and some generic lava fields/ etc.

3. considering the fact that you said HS, one can only assume you'e a PS3 fanboy.

No, it's not a joke. I was being perfectly serious about my complaints. The original game offered a lot more than just gunmen. One environment throughout? Generic lava fields? Did you PLAY the original game? It sure doesn't sound like it. As for the PS3 fanboy comment, if you go to my profile page you'll see that I've reviewed about 7 or 8 360 games to one, yes that's right ONE, ps3 game.

The original game started in the village, moved to the airship, then went into the ruins field. It basically stayed there. There was a cavern, a, I guess you'd call train depot, a lava area, the church, and then that's really it. How can you say it wasn't pretty much one environment? Everything was that bluish grey color.

NG2 has the village, an airship, some crazy fields, the demon caverns, venice, new york city, empire state building, and basically defining stages.

Very convenient omission of the actual Vigoorian city you spent a huge chunk of your time in, as well as the aqueducts and that weird and creepy place that lead up to the last boss fight with all the huge bones faling down on you. The original had way better environments, though it sounds to me like you're trying to argue that NG2 had MORE environments, which isn't something I was arguing in the first place. I could care less about NG2's variety if what's there is pretty damn boring and uninspired.

What's laughable about technique? That electric boss in the tunnels makes you use you shuriken and lancer like crazy. Use the dragon sword and you're toast.

But if you found the bosses in two easy, then good for you, I didn't, at all. The ending boss gives me a heart attack. Alma and Doku were easy for me.

Doesn't matter though. I still stand by my 2 was funner than 1 statement

JackDaniels121

All the other bosses are simple even on mentor so far. just grab your dragon sword or scythe once you unlocked it and start slashing. One combo does MASSIVE DAMAGE. (though I havent finished it on mentor yet so my opinion might change)