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#1 rabbeez43
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They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?
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#3 ISA_Scum
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The reviews are all over the map, but as a Cow, I must admit this game got cut from gaming library after watching On The Spot. The demo they gave and the talk the review had to say completely turned me off from Lair. Bad news.
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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

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They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rabbeez43


Are..are you trying to claim ownage with that score?:lol: Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.

Seriousl though, acceptteh ownage and the flop gracefully. The PS3 still has a LOT of 1st party games coming out that will rock.
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#6 JiveT
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When did they start giving out two reviews? I haven't read it since Andy the Game Dandy changed his name.

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[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?washere12

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

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E3 '05 REAL-TIME footage for the win! lol
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They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rabbeez43
Your acting like those are good scores. If I was a cow I would cringe seeing those numbers.
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Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.-JayWong-

I agree. Somehow the cows were universally able to avoid ownage when Resistance flopped and I have a feeling the same will happen this year.

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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"] Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.Kestastrophe

I agree. Somehow the cows were universally able to avoid ownage when Resistance flopped and I have a feeling the same will happen this year.

They always try and change the rules. heck look at the Bioshock thread they kept trying to call Bioshock a flop because it did not get 9.5 and now they are saying 7.25 - 8.0 are good scores for Lair.
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[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"] Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.rybe1025

I agree. Somehow the cows were universally able to avoid ownage when Resistance flopped and I have a feeling the same will happen this year.

They always try and change the rules. heck look at the Bioshock thread they kept trying to call Bioshock a flop because it did not get 9.5 and now they are saying 7.25 - 8.0 are good scores for Lair.

Please dont generalize us like that,I dont generalize other fanboys.Bioshock did not flop,Lair was crap to me since I dont like dragon games unless its drakengard.

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#13 whitetiger3521
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Game Informer has great reviews and usually is more reliable than alot of other sources.
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#14 E_x_i_l_e
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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

Is it a problem for them to like a game a lot and rate it accordingly? Considering reviews are just opinions..

I love how a lot of people try to say one source is less credible than the other when in the end they're all just opinions ...

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#15 coltonnaslund
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[QUOTE="washere12"]

[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

HAHAHA, did you even READ the reviews....GS was the only site that gave it under 9....it DID NOT FLOP...and WAS AAA

Heavenly Sword won't be AA and Lair won't be CLOSE to AAA and Warhawk will be lucky with an A

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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84
Haha, yea, and themagazine that gave BioShock a 10, what fools and there different opinions.
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[QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rybe1025
Your acting like those are good scores. If I was a cow I would cringe seeing those numbers.

Actually those are good scores. In System Wars however, it's the norm to hate on anything that's not a 9.5 or higher which is childish, and stupid.
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#18 double-r
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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

but tony hawk 3 got a 10 on here and pdz got a 9 there for i announce that gamespot reviews are all void and cant be considered in arguements :roll:

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#19 washere12
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

briguyb13

Your acting like those are good scores. If I was a cow I would cringe seeing those numbers.

Actually those are good scores. In System Wars however, it's the norm to hate on anything that's not a 9.5 or higher which is childish, and stupid.

WATTTT THOSE ARE GOOD FOR GAMEINFORMER??!!!! If there was a converter to gamespot it would ge llike a 6 or 5.5, they give 10's to all the big titles: Bioshock, Halo 2 GTA etc

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#20 dru26
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I am pretty dissapointed considering the amount of times this game was pushed back. I pay more attention to the substance of the review over the numeric score in most cases, and it sounds like this game is nearly unplayable. Heavenly Sword, Lair and Warhawk were supposed to be a few of the must buy titles for the ps3 and so far HS is the only one I'll be purchasing.
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They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rabbeez43
the important thing to know is that credible review sources like IGN,EGM, and Game Informer state that the controls for Lair are terrible. The graphics are nice, but for a game like Lair it absolutely had to nail the Sixaxis controls since it was relying on them so much for the core of the flying and combat. Poor design decisions lead to poor controls and in a flying game.......poor controls are the death nail.
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#22 BioShockOwnz
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Meh, cows better hope it doesn't get in the 7's at Gamespot since it's hyped AA.
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

briguyb13

Your acting like those are good scores. If I was a cow I would cringe seeing those numbers.

Actually those are good scores. In System Wars however, it's the norm to hate on anything that's not a 9.5 or higher which is childish, and stupid.

People still refer to crackdown and motorstorm as being good games and they are A. What you are talking about is games that arer hyped and fail to meet their hype (which both of those games did). They are bashed for not meeting hyp not for being bad.

I think you'll find the only AAA games that takes a significant bashing regularly are Halo and Halo 2.

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[QUOTE="washere12"]

[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

It was 94% on Gamerankings and it got 10 from 30% of the reviewers.

Giving a 10 to Twilight Princess doesn't make them less credible. Just says they're easy on scores, that would mean Lair could get a lower score.

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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"] Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.Kestastrophe

I agree. Somehow the cows were universally able to avoid ownage when Resistance flopped and I have a feeling the same will happen this year.

resistance got an 8.6 here. How is that a flop. especially for a launch title. many believed it should have gotten a higher score

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#26 washere12
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[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"][QUOTE="washere12"]

[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?Eponique

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

It was 94% on Gamerankings and it got 10 from 30% of the reviewers.

Giving a 10 to Twilight Princess doesn't make them less credible. Just says they're easy on scores, that would mean Lair could get a lower score.

Thank you exactly m point

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[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"] Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.cf2012

I agree. Somehow the cows were universally able to avoid ownage when Resistance flopped and I have a feeling the same will happen this year.

resistance got an 8.6 here. How is that a flop. especially for a launch title. many believed it should have gotten a higher score

On SW if a game is hyped as AAA (9 +) and scores lower it is a flop, it does not in any way make it a bad game.
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But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

game informer is the law when comes to game mags

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#29 mgsbethatgame
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When did they start giving out two reviews? I haven't read it since Andy the Game Dandy changed his name.

JiveT

theirs the big one that u see and the other one is like on the side of the page they have been doing this for the longest

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#30 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

briguyb13
Your acting like those are good scores. If I was a cow I would cringe seeing those numbers.

Actually those are good scores. In System Wars however, it's the norm to hate on anything that's not a 9.5 or higher which is childish, and stupid.

Not on a game that has been hyped by Sony and the PS3 fans like Lair has. If Halo or Mass Effect ever got a 7.25 I would never think of that as a good score for 360. And yes Lair at first was hyped a easy AAA game, huge system seller, a game that 360 would never even be able to run. So no that is not a good score. Remeber Lair is/was supposed to be one of PS3's big guns like how Mass Effect or halo is for 360.
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[QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

-JayWong-



Are..are you trying to claim ownage with that score?:lol: Somehow, I think with all the 7s Lair and Heavenly Sword is getting, all the cows are going to redefine the term "AA". After the next couple of weeks, 7 will be the new 8.

Seriousl though, acceptteh ownage and the flop gracefully. The PS3 still has a LOT of 1st party games coming out that will rock.

Err just wondering, what site, besides IGN UK, gave Heavenly Sword a 7? You said "all the" which would imply multiple amounts of 7s, probably more than 3 but all I've seen is 1...

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[QUOTE="washere12"]

[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?kingpoopa84

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

flop on GS. If you think the GS is the end all be all of reviews for a game you've been on SW to long, its fun to use just GS reviews for SW but thats about it. over all its rated better than any other game this year except bioshock, opinion of many>>>>opinion of one.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

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GI rates everything about 2 points higher than GS does on average. Don't expect that score here, or you're going to be in for a rude surprise.
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GI rates everything about 2 points higher than GS does on average. Don't expect that score here, or you're going to be in for a rude surprise.GamerForca

they rate bad games about 2 points higher.

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They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rabbeez43

Better than we wanted? How about worse than what you cows wanted? Isn't that what really matters? If it flops, it doesn't affect me since I couldn't play it anyway. If it flops, it definitely affects the cows.

Man, I knew that I should have bookmarked all of those AAA-hype forum threads back when cows were touting the graphics and saying that the game looked better than Gears... Oh well...

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[QUOTE="GamerForca"]GI rates everything about 2 points higher than GS does on average. Don't expect that score here, or you're going to be in for a rude surprise.laughingman42

they rate bad games about 2 points higher.

2 points on average like I said. They usually rate good games 1-1.5 points higher.

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#37 rabbeez43
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[QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

REVENGEotSITH

Better than we wanted? How about worse than what you cows wanted? Isn't that what really matters? If it flops, it doesn't affect me since I couldn't play it anyway. If it flops, it definitely affects the cows.

Man, I knew that I should have bookmarked all of those AAA-hype forum threads back when cows were touting the graphics and saying that the game looked better than Gears... Oh well...

well, its better than a 5.5, isnt it?

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[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"][QUOTE="washere12"]

[QUOTE="kingpoopa84"]But, wasn't this the same magazine that gave Twilight Princess a 10?laughingman42

So they aren't too hard on games and Twilight Princess was definatley up there, At least AAA so

UR POINT???!!!

It's only AA and for good reason. I'm not saying it's bad but, it was a flop none the less.

flop on GS. If you think the GS is the end all be all of reviews for a game you've been on SW to long, its fun to use just GS reviews for SW but thats about it. over all its rated better than any other game this year except bioshock, opinion of many>>>>opinion of one.

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

sorry to interrupt, but if you think TP was a bad game, u need to play it. again.

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i heard this game's gotten bad previews from IGN or something, so the preview at least gives this a little more credibility.
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[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="rabbeez43"]

They gave it a 7.25 and 8.0--so Lemmings, this is probably better than you wanted, right?

(I would give you guys a link, but for some reason the thing isnt working--just go to www.n4g.com, and it should be on the home page.

rabbeez43

Better than we wanted? How about worse than what you cows wanted? Isn't that what really matters? If it flops, it doesn't affect me since I couldn't play it anyway. If it flops, it definitely affects the cows.

Man, I knew that I should have bookmarked all of those AAA-hype forum threads back when cows were touting the graphics and saying that the game looked better than Gears... Oh well...

well, its better than a 5.5, isnt it?

Yes - are you talking about the EGM review? They just ripped on the game pretty hard. The funny thing, imo, is how Factor 5 used sixaxis entirely for the control of the dragons. Do any of you think that Sony put pressure on them to do this? You'd think so since the game is a 2nd party game. These guys making the game are gamers too and you would THINK that they would realize that the controls just didn't work - wouldn't you???

Something else had to be behind the decision to go 100% with sixaxis.

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#41 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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In reference to my earlier post I was just saying in general, no matter who or what site reviewed it, a seven to eight out of ten is a decent score for a game. I don't care about who hyped what or why. Anything below a seven means play at your own risk and tastes. Why is it that System Wars posters think a game that scores below a 9.5 is the end of the world?
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#42 Timstuff
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I may still give it a rent, but my enthusiasm for this game has gone down considerably. I will only buy it for $60 if Gamespot gives it an 8.0 or more.