So how laggy is the Playstation Move?

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#1 SilentlyMad
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Here is a video from Digital Foundry. So you can see with your own eyes not just read about it. Looks pretty bad to me.

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While at GDC, we noticed that the new PlayStation Move controller has a little lag. Want to see how much lag?

The technical gurus at Digital Foundry took a 60 frames-per-second camera to GDC, went and used the Move for a bit, and took this footage. It doesn't take the 20% speed to see that there's some noticeable lag there.

Not enough to render the controller useless, of course, and no more than you're used to with the Wii, but enough to have an impact on any game that requires precise timing.

In its defence, this is pre-release stuff, and there's no telling what magic can be conjured by Sony's engineers (and developers) between now and the peripheral's release.

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#2 chikenfriedrice
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doesn't look as bad as Natal's lag though :P

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#3 D-RS
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mmmm let us wait and see then lets judge.
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#5 Chutebox
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doesn't look as bad as Natal's lag though :P

chikenfriedrice
No where near it lol.
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#6 lucarocks1
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doesn't look as bad as Natal's lag though :P

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But on natal you can see the bottom of your avatars shoe BAM! :P
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#7 WhyS
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Looking for bread crumbs are we? It looked pretty good @ GDC.
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#8 Dibdibdobdobo
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Whats the lag roughly worked out too?! All that power of PS3 and it seems to be no better than Wii.
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#9 amaneuvering
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In that video it still looks vastly superior to the Wiimote, even with M+, for motion tracking.

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#10 ChaltierX
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I'd say that Natal's is much worse.

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#11 Kandros
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you know that it is pre-alpha footage right? and it will talke 6+ months for the move comes out, it will be lagless when it comes out

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#12 nhh18
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It is half the lag than natal. But both are also adding tv lag. So it should be around 30-50 ms.

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#13 Fireboy78
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I think it's eye toy, my theory.

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#14 nhh18
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you know that it is pre-alpha footage right? and it will talke 6+ months for the move comes out, it will be lagless when it comes out

Kandros

No. It is going to have lag. It is running code and that code takes time. People are also delusional. You are typing on a computer with lag too. Around 30-50 ms of lag is my bet. Possibly higher.

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#15 DerekLoffin
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Some lag is unavoidable. You have transmission time, reception time of the camera, computation time behind the scenes, etc, etc. Even wired controllers have lag, it is just low enough to generally no impact much.
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#16 88mphSlayer
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I think it's eye toy, my theory.

Fireboy78

yeah eyetoy has 130ms of lag no matter what

there's probably some processing time lag on top of that

and some software lag as well

it's not necessarily that bad tho, your eyes will adjust

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#17 goblaa
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WM+ has the exact same amount of lag. Move does nothing that WM+ can't and vice versa.

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#18 15strong
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

doesn't look as bad as Natal's lag though :P

lucarocks1

But on natal you can see the bottom of your avatars shoe BAM! :P

I absolutly love it.

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#19 ktrotter11
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everything in the world has lag, even you lag, u have to think it before u act, same for computers......... the big question is how much time does one spend thinking, Communication technologies like bluetooth for ex, vastlycut down the latency of thought to action cycles
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#20 mythrol
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[QUOTE="Kandros"]

you know that it is pre-alpha footage right? and it will talke 6+ months for the move comes out, it will be lagless when it comes out

nhh18

No. It is going to have lag. It is running code and that code takes time. People are also delusional. You are typing on a computer with lag too. Around 30-50 ms of lag is my bet. Possibly higher.

Where do you get the 30 - 50ms lag from? We have Natal timed at 100 ms lag, so I'm curious as to where you came up with Move's lag.
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#21 osan0
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so around the same as the wiimote and WM+. thats fine. ive never suffered with wii controls due to lag...they work as i expect them to.
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#22 surrealnumber5
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you could have seen that before GDC in that gif where a guy tosses up the ball on a stick
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#23 KiZZo1
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Hahahahaha, lemmings talking about lag. Oh, the irony ... Let me see if I can do a bit of damage control (taking from the wisdom of our lemming brothers):

But, but, ... It's not final ... they will optimize it :cry:

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#24 Gundamforce
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Well it's still in development stage, so that's no surprise. It should be lowered to respectable levels by the time of launch. Same goes for Natal.

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#25 Norfliver
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WM+ has the exact same amount of lag. Move does nothing that WM+ can't and vice versa.

goblaa

What ?

Every game on Wii Sport Resort as 0 lag... ?

You felt some lag in the Sword fighting game ???

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#26 gago-gago
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I think all these motion controls will always have some sort of lag to all of them but I doubt the lag will be major enough to ruin the gaming experience.

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#27 osan0
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

WM+ has the exact same amount of lag. Move does nothing that WM+ can't and vice versa.

Norfliver

What ?

Every game on Wii Sport Resort as 0 lag... ?

You felt some lag in the Sword fighting game ???

there is a tiny bit not only with WM+ but with wiimote also. to see it....move the controller up and down very quickly in the sword fighting game after a fight (when its declaring you the winner. the motions in screen will fall slightly behind what your doing. also in base ball on wiisports...if you play baseball and just move the wimmote in small circular motions quickly..again the bat will fall behind. but its tiny and in actual gameplay its not a problem.
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#28 Mario1331
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In that video it still looks vastly superior to the Wiimote, even with M+, for motion tracking.

amaneuvering

ok now in my list you are acting like a fanboy,denial isnt cool it does not look way ahead of M+ because when i play it and its worse im so going to own you and someone quote me on that...

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#29 CAPSROGUE
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[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

In that video it still looks vastly superior to the Wiimote, even with M+, for motion tracking.

Mario1331

ok now in my list you are acting like a fanboy,denial isnt cool it does not look way ahead of M+ because when i play it and its worse im so going to own you and someone quote me on that...

I was thinking the same thing. All this talk about 1:1 and now that it's apparent it DOES suffers from lag and other fail (when the camera loses track of the ball) it's "still vastly superior to the Wiimote, even with M+"? Riiiiight. Time to look at the facts bro, this **** doesn't look that good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKZfjvLq5NgIn short, Wii M+ > PS Move.I'm open for PS Move and I hope it gets implemented into alot of FPS games but you're basicly making a fool out of yourself.

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#30 mrmusicman247
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Idk. Let me buy the Playstation Move that's available to everyone. Oh wait...
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#32 mythrol
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Hahahahaha, lemmings talking about lag. Oh, the irony ... Let me see if I can do a bit of damage control (taking from the wisdom of our lemming brothers):

But, but, ... It's not final ... they will optimize it :cry:

KiZZo1
So you don't deny the lag. Ok. Great.
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#33 LOXO7
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Did you all see the Kevin from the future link on that page? He says something about not having a controller for shooters. Just like that banned 360 commercial where everyone was "shooter" each other with their hands. Haha!...:| I guess MS took that commercial they made to heart, because Natal uses no controller.

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#34 jrhawk42
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the lack of lag from the playstation move is about the only good thing I've heard about it so far.

From the interviews I've seen of people playing the MOVE they always seem unimpressed, and mention that they hope they develop better games for when it releases.

Unfortunately I don't think many non-microsoft people have played natal yet. So it's hard to say if it lives up to the hype.

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#35 mRiGhTbAcKaTyOu
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You all know what tho? Im actually going to buy two ps move's and that fighting game. They sold me after watching all these videos.

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#36 GeneralHawx
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still better than the wii mote but not sure with motion plus haven't used that yet
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#37 AmayaPapaya
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So I guess it's settled. Cows have been jealous that the Wii can do something the PS3 can't. Now that it has it, they are all over it.

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#38 Gxgear
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This is what happens when you rip off crap...you get more crap.