So How Long Until This "JRPG Fad" on Consoles Fizzles out forever?

I admit it- JRPGs suck. Badly. It's always the exact same stuff, every time:

- Stupid, colorful-haired, homo/metrosexual characters.

- The guys always look like girls, and they are almost always white guys.

- Totally unrealistic in basically every regard, including storyline and dialogue.

- oh no! Some little kid has to save the world/country/village, while at the same time growing up along the way!

- Always some sidekick character that looks like an animal.

- Totally fake weapons.

- Half hour cut scenes, which in reality are just a self-indulgent yawn-fest. Some JRPGs don't even let you skip the cut scenes.

- Always some ridiculously pointless love connection somewhere in the storyline.

- Totally boring turn-based fighting systems, which require absolutely zero skill. My dog could beat a Final Fantasy boss by randomly stepping on the controller.

What is it about these snoozers that you guys love so much? They suck. When will the gaming world FINALLY be done with JRPGs?

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

[QUOTE="zh666"]there's only two types of WRPGs.. where as JRPGs tend to try to be different... accameron

By "different," you meant "suck," right? Because that's the only difference between WRPGs and JRPGs.

your wit is about as sharp as a spoon

I admit it- JRPGs suck. Badly. Your opinion.

It's always the exact same stuff, every time:

- Stupid, colorful-haired, homo/metrosexual characters. First part is true, second part is only true in certain circumstances. :P

- The guys always look like girls, and they are almost always white guys. False

- Totally unrealistic in basically every regard, including storyline and dialogue. I can't say I remember the last alien invasion where a bunch of humans in full body armor had to use SMG's, shotguns, and rocket launchers to fend off the aliens.

- oh no! Some little kid has to save the world/country/village, while at the same time growing up along the way! Ok. :? People usually do grow up when time goes by.

- Always some sidekick character that looks like an animal. Aliens and shooters. ;)

- Totally fake weapons. Once again, shooters.

- Half hour cut scenes, which in reality are just a self-indulgent yawn-fest. Some JRPGs don't even let you skip the cut scenes. Just a poor steroetype of the genre.

- Always some ridiculously pointless love connection somewhere in the storyline. And?

- Totally boring turn-based fighting systems, which require absolutely zero skill. My dog could beat a Final Fantasy boss by randomly stepping on the controller. For one thing, they are not always turn based. There are a large variety of battle systems. And I doubt a dog could, I'd like you to post a video of that since you're so sure of it.

What is it about these snoozers that you guys love so much? They suck. When will the gaming world FINALLY be done with JRPGs? If I bothered explaining, you would probably just make some fanboyish remark. Your opinion (again). Whenever they stop being made, which is when they stop selling.

accameron

Some people like them!!

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Cerberus_Legion

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Was there a reason why you had to parody my thread? :|Gunraidan

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

I admit it- JRPGs suck. Badly. It's always the exact same stuff, every time:

- Stupid, colorful-haired, homo/metrosexual characters.
Depends on the JRPG.

- The guys always look like girls, and they are almost always white guys.
Depends on the JRPG for both things.

- Totally unrealistic in basically every regard, including storyline and dialogue.
I don't play games to do something I could do in real life; Plus that's what makes them so interesting.

- oh no! Some little kid has to save the world/country/village, while at the same time growing up along the way!
Many, no EVERY story should have some character development, whether that be coming of age, realization of self, etc. If they don't, the story will turn out poorly and will be for no purpose. Not all JRPGs have a young kid as the main character either, some of the best RPGs don't even let you play as the main character.

- Always some sidekick character that looks like an animal.
Erm...agreed they are quite annoying, but not in every JRPG. Just seems to be in many popular ones like FFVII.

- Totally fake weapons.
This one's given. Halo has "totally fake weapons," so does Gears of War, Oblivion, many if not all WRPGs, games set in the future, etc.

- Half hour cut scenes, which in reality are just a self-indulgent yawn-fest. Some JRPGs don't even let you skip the cut scenes.
Don't mind it if it conveys the story better than through gameplay. If you can't enjoy these when they're rarely used (which they are rarely used in most JRPGs), then you shouldn't be playing an RPG, period.

- Always some ridiculously pointless love connection somewhere in the storyline.
Not always, and sometimes it helps develop the characters more, stories don't always have to be about random aliens with no motivation invading earth, you know?

- Totally boring turn-based fighting systems, which require absolutely zero skill. My dog could beat a Final Fantasy boss by randomly stepping on the controller.
You must've been playing some pretty lame JRPGs if you could beat them without actually choosing different attacks. The turn-based fighting is there for strategic depth. Many JRPGs now use ATB, or an Action Battle System, where it plays more like an action game such as Ninja Gaiden or God of War.

What is it about these snoozers that you guys love so much? They suck. When will the gaming world FINALLY be done with JRPGs?
Same could be said for any genre that's in stagnation. Luckily JRPGs are trying to evolve; if only other genres like FPS would do the same...

accameron

Wonder how long before JFPS start to become a new thing?

*Fondly remembers his carefree days playing FF7 and Legend of Dragoon on his PS1*

You'd better settle in to the long haul there skip.

Reminds me of that huge list of JPRG stereotyopes.

XD

I'd rather take a hulk like Marcus Phenix, instead of a pansy like most all of the Final Fantasy main characters.

:|

manny280

Sums up my thoughts. No skill in the battle systems? That's what makes the many hardcore players play the genre since it has the best and most tactical indepth battle systems in gaming?

I'm sorry but I can't imagine anyone calling Odin Sphere or Persona 3 "easy".

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Evolve? When? If I was some hater, I'd say they're the same with BETTER graphics, if anything. If you're going to criticize JRPGs, I'll criticize Shooters, as I damn well please. How has Multiplayer helped gaming? Look at all the nerds playing these Shooter games online 24/7, speaking their damn internet lingo and saying, "I pwned you! Haha, in a video game too no less!" Give me a break. I like Shooters, but your arguments are baseless and just spell hate. There are games that break this mold, but you're too blind to see it. I switched the argument, and anyone can do the same.

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

[QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Cerberus_Legion

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Evolve? When? If I was some hater, I'd say they're the same with BETTER graphics, if anything. If you're going to criticize JRPGs, I'll criticize Shooters, as I damn well please. How has Multiplayer helped gaming? Look at all the nerds playing these Shooter games online 24/7, speaking their damn internet lingo and saying, "I pwned you! Haha, in a video game too no less!" Give me a break. I like Shooters, but your arguments are baseless and just spell hate. There are games that break this mold, but you're too blind to see it. I switched the argument, and anyone can do the same.

Dude, it's 100 times more fun to PWN noobs online (and talk trash) than it is to "level up" by yourself. You can't be serious here.

[QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Saturos3091

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Rainbow SixL Vegas Online.

Also, MMOs are great. At least they don't totally suck, like JRPGs.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Rainbow SixL Vegas Online.

Also, MMOs are great. At least they don't totally suck, like JRPGs.

Oh come on man.. At least 50% of the MMO's out there are very medicore (this is coming form a fan who has played quite a few)..Base the game on the actual game not the freaking genre..

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Evolve? When? If I was some hater, I'd say they're the same with BETTER graphics, if anything. If you're going to criticize JRPGs, I'll criticize Shooters, as I damn well please. How has Multiplayer helped gaming? Look at all the nerds playing these Shooter games online 24/7, speaking their damn internet lingo and saying, "I pwned you! Haha, in a video game too no less!" Give me a break. I like Shooters, but your arguments are baseless and just spell hate. There are games that break this mold, but you're too blind to see it. I switched the argument, and anyone can do the same.

Dude, it's 100 times more fun to PWN noobs online (and talk trash) than it is to "level up" by yourself. You can't be serious here.

You know, you CAN do that in MMORPGs that allow PvP, right? I agree, Level grinding is annoying, but Multiplayer is killing Single Player gaming experiences and these short bursts of Shooter entertainment are just that, too short. If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but no need to senselessly bash it and the fans of the genre. The same could be applied to platformers, where all you do is jump and collect with some crappy, anthromorphic character of cheesy proportions, or a fat plumber who hogs the limelight. Meh.. I'd rather play a game and enjoy it than "PWN" a couple of rookies online, for the sake of bragging.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

accameron

At least most shooters have stellar multi-player (at least on the 360) these days. You can also play them with other people, even talk to them as you fight and plan out together. Thus, there is a competitive element involving real people that most other genres fail to possess. Also, shooters still evolve from time to time. With JRPGs, nothing really changes except the graphics of the cut scenes. JRPGs are for nerds living in a windowless closet.

Rainbow SixL Vegas Online.

Also, MMOs are great. At least they don't totally suck, like JRPGs.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

God I hate response threads. Especially ones by notorious fanboys.

I honestly didn't read anything but the title of this post after seeing the name attached to it.

accameron

You are like the 5th person to say this in one of my threads. Why even bother to post if you aren't going to read the OP? I am thinking that this is seriously a post designed to annoy or offend ME, which is a TOS violation. Seriously, I could report so many of you fools. Luckily, I never report people.

You just called someone a fool which is clear insults of other users. That is a violation of TOS, I could report you. On topic, just because you don't like JRPGs doesn't mean nobody else does.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

God I hate response threads. Especially ones by notorious fanboys.

I honestly didn't read anything but the title of this post after seeing the name attached to it.

accameron

You are like the 5th person to say this in one of my threads. Why even bother to post if you aren't going to read the OP? I am thinking that this is seriously a post designed to annoy or offend ME, which is a TOS violation. Seriously, I could report so many of you fools. Luckily, I never report people.

Then maybe it's time to get the message. It's like this passage from Boogie Nights:

"Oh God! This is like the 4th chick this week to OD on me!!!"

"Well then, don't you think you oughta get some better ****?"

Take the hint.

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Cerberus_Legion

LOL that is true most of the time, except for Bioshock. Anyhow, I think the JRPG genre is dying. After the last big set of games Square had on the PS1: Xenogears, Vagrant Story and Chrono Cross. I have yet to see them top those works, everything afterwards seemed medicore. FFX was ok, but other than that its just meh...Square was better when they were Squaresoft instead of Squarenix.

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Cerberus_Legion

lol wow.

Mazel tov. JRPG's for the most part suck. Look at Final Fantasy 7. Possibly the most overrated game of all time, all by chubby little fanboys. Everyone knows WRPG's are better. Scientists at Yale have factual, consistent test results which show WRPG"s are superior. The WRPG genre is not over-saturated like the JPRG one. It's much more original. Games like Oblivion and KOTOR look and feel differently, yet still have the solid WRPG gameplay formula which bonds them. The JRPG market is stale, cliched, and unoriginal. Ports, sequels, re-makes, rip-off's, budget titles. That's about it.

WRPG>JRPG. Fact. /thread

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

You could say the same for Shooters;

• Big, masculine guys blowing stuff up
• Point and shoot, kill and destroy
• Save humanity from an alien threat, or WWII
• Often the same game, hidden under a shiny coat of glossy graphics
• Multiplayer
• Short as HELL Single Player

However, there are games in both genres that break the mold; when will the "Shooter" fad end, it's killing my Single Player gaming experience, Dammit!

See what I did there? :D

Decko5

lol wow.

It was meant to be that way.. :D

Mazel tov. JRPG's for the most part suck. Look at Final Fantasy 7. Possibly the most overrated game of all time, all by chubby little fanboys. Everyone knows WRPG's are better. Scientists at Yale have factual, consistent test results which show WRPG"s are superior. The WRPG genre is not over-saturated like the JPRG one. It's much more original. Games like Oblivion and KOTOR look and feel differently, yet still have the solid WRPG gameplay formula which bonds them. The JRPG market is stale, cliched, and unoriginal. Ports, sequels, re-makes, rip-off's, budget titles. That's about it.

WRPG>JRPG. Fact. /thread

V_Isle

Your opinion doesn't = fact. :lol: And there are plenty of original jRPG's out there. You stuck in FF land or something?

Reminds me of that huge list of JPRG stereotyopes.

XD

I'd rather take a hulk like Marcus Phenix, instead of a pansy like most all of the Final Fantasy main characters.

elbow2k

what do u mean by take............

[QUOTE="elbow2k"]

Reminds me of that huge list of JPRG stereotyopes.

XD

I'd rather take a hulk like Marcus Phenix, instead of a pansy like most all of the Final Fantasy main characters.

nippon_gamer

what do u mean by take............

That made me laugh.

[QUOTE="V_Isle"]

Mazel tov. JRPG's for the most part suck. Look at Final Fantasy 7. Possibly the most overrated game of all time, all by chubby little fanboys. Everyone knows WRPG's are better. Scientists at Yale have factual, consistent test results which show WRPG"s are superior. The WRPG genre is not over-saturated like the JPRG one. It's much more original. Games like Oblivion and KOTOR look and feel differently, yet still have the solid WRPG gameplay formula which bonds them. The JRPG market is stale, cliched, and unoriginal. Ports, sequels, re-makes, rip-off's, budget titles. That's about it.

WRPG>JRPG. Fact. /thread

ChrisMun

Your opinion doesn't = fact. :lol: And there are plenty of original jRPG's out there. You stuck in FF land or something?

Oblivion > Final Fantasy VII
Morrowind > Final Fatasy VII
KOTOR > Final Fantasy VII

I could go on, and on, but I've got a lunch meeting at the Four Seasons. Putz, and mazel tov. And let me go ahead and uh,

/thread that for ya again. Thanks a bunch.

[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"][QUOTE="elbow2k"]

Reminds me of that huge list of JPRG stereotyopes.

XD

I'd rather take a hulk like Marcus Phenix, instead of a pansy like most all of the Final Fantasy main characters.

BreakingPoint8

what do u mean by take............

That made me laugh.

So that's why they like WRPGs....

[QUOTE="ChrisMun"][QUOTE="V_Isle"]

Mazel tov. JRPG's for the most part suck. Look at Final Fantasy 7. Possibly the most overrated game of all time, all by chubby little fanboys. Everyone knows WRPG's are better. Scientists at Yale have factual, consistent test results which show WRPG"s are superior. The WRPG genre is not over-saturated like the JPRG one. It's much more original. Games like Oblivion and KOTOR look and feel differently, yet still have the solid WRPG gameplay formula which bonds them. The JRPG market is stale, cliched, and unoriginal. Ports, sequels, re-makes, rip-off's, budget titles. That's about it.

WRPG>JRPG. Fact. /thread

V_Isle

Your opinion doesn't = fact. :lol: And there are plenty of original jRPG's out there. You stuck in FF land or something?

Oblivion > Final Fantasy VII
Morrowind > Final Fatasy VII
KOTOR > Final Fantasy VII

I could go on, and on, but I've got a lunch meeting at the Four Seasons. Putz, and mazel tov. And let me go ahead and uh,

/thread that for ya again. Thanks a bunch.

Once again your opinion does not equal fact. Whats so hard to understand about that, I don't know.