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#1 Koalakommander
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Brood Wars expansion and I must say - very impressed.

I played this game 8 years ago when I was 9, but I only played custom games like Tower Defense and such (those were the days).

Now, after watching countless proffessional Korean videos, I realized this games shines even brighter as, well, a real RTS. At first the graphics kind of slap you in the face, but after a couple hours, they actually become attractive 0_o.

So I went on battlenet, and went 1 and 13. I got my ass handed to me practically every game - and I loved every second of it. Having just come from trying to play CnC3, Starcraft seems so perfectly balanced, yet the races are so diffrent from eachother-- it makes CnC3 look like broken garbage (honestly that game needs major patching, yet they decide to make an expansion!?).

From watching videos, and being a fast learner, I caught on to the Protoss strategies fairly quickly - but that's the easy part. The speed and mental skills required to play this game effectively is mind blowing, and I'm bad at it. Now I am a pretty good WC3 player, but I could not handle Starcraft.

You have to find your enemy quickly, monitor his behavior the entire game while adjusting your own strategies, and then pressure pressure pressure him. I cannot emphasize pressuring enough. You need to keep your opponent down, cautious, and slow. If you don't harass or attack him every 2 minutes, he'll probably have 6 bases on the map and an army to match it. There is so much to learn in this game, it's no wonder Korea respects its so much.

The community was also very mature. Obviously, SC isn't as big as it was 10 years ago, but there's still a good 40,000 players on at any given moment. They all wish you good luck and to have fun before the match starts, and say gg when you lose/win. Unlike my WC3 experiences, where it seemed I was facing a member of the KKK every game, who felt the need to call me a noob or something worse whenever I lost a game, or even a small skirmish. The SC players would also be very helpful when I asked for advice on how to get better, or asked them what I was doing wrong.

Infact, I faced quite a few koreans, and after getting completed ripped apart by one, we had a talk and he asked me if i would be his penpal.

I haven't had this much fun in an RTS for a while, and Starcraft 2 couldn't come any sooner.

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#2 cobrax75
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glad you like it.....RTS's are one of the few generes that actually age nicely....since graaphics are almost completly irrelivent to overall experience.
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#3 Loonie
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Starcraft 2 will be pretty though. It will be infested will jerks just like every other online game out now.
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#4 HungryLikeAMug
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boring
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#5 Vandalvideo
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug
Thats why you micromanage.
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#6 Koalakommander
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug

eh? SC's population cap is 200. That's quite a few guys. You must be thinking of Warcraft 3.

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#7 My_Name_Is_Sin
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Starcraft is a great rts game. The new one is going to be FANTASTIC
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#8 ArisShadows
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That touched my Starcraft Soul.. I am happy to see that you foundthe shining light of this wonderful RTS. Each Race different but so balanced, I am guessing you will be purchasing Stacraft 2? I actually consider the graphics highly for such an old game, I could watch the introductionary scenes over and over. Perhaps some day, we will cross in the battle.net universe.

(Also fan of WC3)

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#9 bionicle_lover
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starcraft probably has that legendary feeling to it since every race is actually very different. and it isnt squad based like many new rts's so i always feel like its just different enough so that not much can match it. favorite rts atm. hopefully it will be bumped off by starcraft 2.
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#10 IgGy621985
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they are way to slow and the battles way to smallHungryLikeAMug

How to filter a bullcrap?

Quite easy i'd say

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#11 wklzip
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug

try playing starcraft

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#12 GarchomPro
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Best RTS games IMO are

Starcraft
Warcraft
Age of Empires

(series)
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#13 danxxx
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play fpm (fastest possible map) then like me if u like fast paced action.

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#14 laughingman42
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug

What?? no. You can win or lose a match in a matter of minutes. I dont know about you but beating someone in 5 minutes seems pretty fast to me.

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#15 Koalakommander
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play fpm (fastest possible map) then like me if u like fast paced action.

danxxx

bleh, I feel like a noob when I play those.

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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug

at least the zerg isnt the protoss in a different uniforms and some tanks that they claim to be drastically different.

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#17 Blommen
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I always got my ass kicked in Starcraft online, in the end I couldn't handle the pressure so I burned the manual and ate the ashes. Now I am da master of Starcraft!!! -True story:P
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#18 James_Lipton
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Not many games last that long like Starcraft and Counterstrike. There is a reason why these games still exist and played around the world still. I'm glad you found the reason.
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#19 Gun-Unit
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Having completely different teams was nothing new at the time,Westwood started that,just Starcraftwas the first and probabley the only rts to have completely different teams and have it balanced.Probabley be the only as i don't see any rts company supporting a game for almost 10 years after release like Blizzard does.

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#20 Crunchman
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I haven't had this much fun in an RTS for a while, and Starcraft 2 couldn't come any sooner.

Koalakommander

Be prepared to wait a while...

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#21 -Beowulf
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i hate blizzard stragtegy games....they are way to slow and the battles way to small......like a huge battle is 5 footsoldiers against someone elses 5....its boringHungryLikeAMug

I disagree that they're slow. Like really disagree.

BUT, I do agree that I like more massive battles. Rise of Nations with no pop cap mod is SOOOOO much fun.

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#22 Blommen
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I always got my ass kicked in Starcraft online, in the end I couldn't handle the pressure so I burned the manual and ate the ashes. Now I am da master of Starcraft!!! -True story:P

Also blizzard's rts are not slow when you play against others online. You have to be very quick with your keyboard shortcuts to have a chance of winning!

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#23 dispator
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Starcraft is such a timeless game,I still play it at least once a week.So many tactics and little dirty tricks...

Blizzard games are just addicting,i dont know how they do it but every one of their games is just an amazing experience on which i just got to get hooked!!:)

I really consider them as a most user friendly and real "by gamers for gamers" devs,couse they support their games as no other dev does,also couse they decided on not porting and dumbing dow any of their games for the consoles just hope they keepgoing on like this:)

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#24 cyprus646
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we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:
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#25 cobrax75
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we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:cyprus646

by next years time...there will be at least one crazy lemming saying that.....

I still remember the "half life is a rip off of Halo thread"

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#26 OGTiago
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RTS's are good because you start from scratch, getting stronger as the game goes (well the ones I played)
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#27 My_Name_Is_Sin
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we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:cyprus646
JEsus shut the hell up
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#28 wklzip
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[QUOTE="cyprus646"]we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:cobrax75

by next years time...there will be at least one crazy lemming saying that.....

I still remember the "half life is a rip off of Halo thread"

:lol:

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#29 cyprus646
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[QUOTE="cyprus646"]we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:My_Name_Is_Sin
JEsus shut the hell up

It seems someone has there sarcasm meter turned off :roll:
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#30 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="My_Name_Is_Sin"][QUOTE="cyprus646"]we all know star craft is just a rip-off of halo wars :roll:cyprus646
JEsus shut the hell up

It seems someone has there sarcasm meter turned off :roll:

even for sarcasm that was a disturbing statement.

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#31 TriangleHard
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Starcraft killed RTS genre for me.

After playing Starcraft, every other RTS I've played just felt so wrong.

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#32 Zhengi
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Nice. I remember many LAN parties playing this game. I can't wait for Starcraft 2 to come out and start those LAN parties again :)
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#33 Zeliard9
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Starcraft killed RTS genre for me.

After playing Starcraft, every other RTS I've played just felt so wrong.

TriangleHard

I kinda felt that way until Relic came along and kicked everyone's ass with Warhammer 40k and especially the godly Company of Heroes. Homeworld was cool, too, but Warhammer and CoH are unbeatable. At least until Starcraft 2 comes along.

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#34 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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I started playing Starcraft quite a few months age.It took my soul within the first few days I purchased and played it.:D
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#36 waza000
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Starcraft 2 will be pretty though. It will be infested will jerks just like every other online game out now.Loonie

just sto hyping it plz ... IF it's not up to expectationg it will hurt deep inside yourself

personnaly, i don't like so much all those C&C3 developpers working on SC2 and bringing too many ideas from C&C3 ... like EXACT-counters and mothership ...

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#37 sts9kid
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Welcome to the hive.

Starcraft is hands down the best RTS ever made. I haven't played the game for several years but I used to be very into it. It's a fun game to play solo, but I really enjoyed playing with my friend in 2v2 matches.

P.S.

Hunters and Lost Temple are the best maps

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#38 Gun-Unit
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[QUOTE="Loonie"]Starcraft 2 will be pretty though. It will be infested will jerks just like every other online game out now.waza000

just sto hyping it plz ... IF it's not up to expectationg it will hurt deep inside yourself

personnaly, i don't like so much all those C&C3 developpers working on SC2 and bringing too many ideas from C&C3 ... like EXACT-counters and mothership ...

Welcome to the rts genre where Blizzard and Westwood/EA been taking ideas off eachother for years,its nothing new.Blizzard lost alot of people since Starcraft so of course they wanna get experienced people from the genre and i remeber reading it was some of the guys from BFME not C&C3.

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i remember the terran's nuclear bombs, i beat the last stage just with those...