So I guess all of the Crysis hate can be put to rest now...

Hate Argument #1 - The A.I

For some reason, everyone on here was ripping on Crysis's A.I because they saw a 30 second tech demo on gametrailers.com. I tried to explain to the people (there was like a 10 page thread on it) that it was simply to show the difference between DX9 and DX10. But no -- they were positive that in the final game, the enemies would stand still as trees and hesitate to fire.

Well the final game still isn't out, but the demo is. If anyone has played the demo they would know that it has 4 different difficulties -- and personally i found Normal to provide a satsifying challange.

Quote from GS's impressions, "The AI is challenging because it doesn't simply just stand and shoot at you or run straight at you. Enemies move, use cover, throw grenades, and make your life pretty difficult."

So, to the 50 people in that thread - you've been owned.

Hate Argument #2 - Crysis is all graphics

I used to think this as well back in the day, but having played the demo and watched all of the amazing footage, I'd go far as to say that Crysis's gameplay is its main selling point.

There is simply so much value in this demo alone. There are countless ways to approach combat situations. Should I cloak and take out guards one at a time? Super speed through the camp causing mayhem? Or maybe punch down buildings and throw stoves at Koreans? Or maybe I'll mix it up a little...

I wasn't expecting to have so much fun with the demo. My graphics settings were on medium and the game looked great -- but dissapointing compared to the videos. But the explosions were pretty sweet =p.

I can only imagine how fun it will be using all of the nano-suit abilities on multiplayer...

Hate Argument #3 - Just a Farcry clone

The only thing this game has in common with FarCry is that it takes place on a tropical island. And if you played the demo, you would know that the entire setting is going to change drastically later in the game.

Jumping out of the plane of was badass, and the story reminded me a lot of the first Dino Crisis (which is a good thing). The cinematic quality of the cutscenes are pretty sweet, and the ending part of the demo made me jump.

Hate Argument #4 - Too bad no one can run it

My computers aren't amazing. They are high-end, but nothing special. I tried to run it on max settings (or the demo's max settings at least), and I didn't get too far with all of the slowdown. So I went with medium and it ran fine, and I still had a lot of fun with it. If you are complaining about not being able to run it on max -- man up and play on lower settings, it's still a great looking game.

But if you can run the game on high settings, that definatly is a nice plus -- afterall, it's the best looking game ever made when played on the proper machine.

I think Crysis will score 8.5.-- Gamespot has a history of undercutting games because of steep system requirements, and PC FPSs are scored on a higher-standard.

I love how lemming bash it for not looking good, but on medium using dx9 but it looks better than every 360 game.

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

I love how lemming bash it for not looking good, but on medium using dx9 but it looks better than every 360 game.

Slurms_M

Cows do it too.

I give you credit, because every point you made is 100% truth. I downloaded demo after hearing a few bash threads. I thought AI would be terrible. But enemies flanking me from a beach, and than running into the jungle after me in a oraganized patteren but be pretty dumb AI.

I used to want crysis to show off for its great graphics. I am like you i have a good PC can run almost every game MAXED out besides crysis. Crysis i can only get medium also. It doesnt look as good as the vids but its good enough for me. For the gameplay is amazing. You can plan out encounters different everytime. Its just so great.

I wish people would stop the hate, but they wont. Look at ps3 bashing, its terrible. I cant believe people can bash ratchet and clank, i am addicited and its easily best in the series(a AAA series i mind you). And people can dare bash crysis, i dont know but i think it may be jelousy or somthing.

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I love how lemming bash it for not looking good, but on medium using dx9 but it looks better than every 360 game.

BioShockOwnz

Cows do it too.

I guess they do.

I give you credit, because every point you made is 100% truth. I downloaded demo after hearing a few bash threads. I thought AI would be terrible. But enemies flanking me from a beach, and than running into the jungle after me in a oraganized patteren but be pretty dumb AI.

I used to want crysis to show off for its great graphics. I am like you i have a good PC can run almost every game MAXED out besides crysis. Crysis i can only get medium also. It doesnt look as good as the vids but its good enough for me. For the gameplay is amazing. You can plan out encounters different everytime. Its just so great.

Sully28

Haha, I abuse the quick save and quick load in the demo. Because I'll come upon a Korean settlement and quick save, and then get kill them all in a variety of ways, and then quick load and do it all over again. And rinse and repeat. The first time I played the demo I played for three hours straight and didn't even get to the end of it because I kept quick loading to try and find different ways to go about things. Strangely, I don't recall doing this at all in Far Cry.

I love how lemming bash it for not looking good, but on medium using dx9 but it looks better than every 360 game.

Slurms_M

They hate it because it isnt on their system.

If it was they would be giving it universal praise.

They hate it because it isnt on their system.

skrat_01

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They hate it because it isnt on their system.

froidnite

Especially the people who all also happen to also own Xbox 360s or Ps3s.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

They hate it because it isnt on their system.

froidnite

lol there are definitely fakeboys running rampant.

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

They hate it because it isnt on their system.

skrat_01

Especially the people who all also happen to also own Xbox 360s or Ps3s.

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

They hate it because it isnt on their system.

bignice12

lol there are definitely fakeboys running rampant.

they are everywhere

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

BioShockOwnz

Hate Argument #4 - Too bad no one can run it

My computers aren't amazing. They are high-end, but nothing special. I tried to run it on max settings (or the demo's max settings at least), and I didn't get too far with all of the slowdown. So I went with medium and it ran fine, and I still had a lot of fun with it. If you are complaining about not being able to run it on max -- man up and play on lower settings, it's still a great looking game.

But if you can run the game on high settings, that definatly is a nice plus -- afterall, it's the best looking game ever made when played on the proper machine.

Koalakommander

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

Spartan070

Nah sorry but most people just find it boring thats the main complaint and it's truebigLLL

have you played the demo?

:|

see I can make up 'facts' about a game too:
Halo 3 is the biggest load overhyped **** ever, and is identical as Halo CE.

Any different to all these Crysis critisms that have been appearing? No.

So many haters but they all see to shy away from this thread.. :roll:
Koalakommander

Sad really, I was hoping for at least one good argument against what you've said.

One thing to note is that a lot of people may not not be aware of some of the nanosuit's other random functions that come in handy in battle. For example, when you're in strength mode, your guns have basically no recoil so it's much easier to hit enemies from mid-distance or far away. But every shot saps a bit of energy.

I remember in the MP beta when I got in fights I would always have to sort of balance the powers, especially armor and strength, so that I could use strength mode for less recoil on the guns but then switch to armor mode if I was getting hit too much. Makes you have to think and strategize on-the-spot.

The suit shortcuts are great, by the way, for those who haven't turned that feature on. When it's on you hit crouch twice to go stealth, hit run twice to go speed, hit jump twice to go strength, and hit back twice and go armor. Makes it very easy and intuitive to switch between the functions in the midst of a battle. And you still have the mouse wheel so if you don't want to chance it and accidentally reveal your position you can use that.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]So many haters but they all see to shy away from this thread.. :roll:
NuclearDruid

Sad really, I was hoping for at least one good argument against what you've said.

The unfortunate truth.

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

BioShockOwnz

There are also Half Life fanboys who hate it

How can I hate that which I am apathetic towards?

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

BioShockOwnz

Funny. I seem to recall the same kneejerk argument coined when Halo 3's rating was questioned. Perhaps this has nothing to do with jealousy on the part of people who don't prefer Crysis and more to do with insecurity on the part of its most ardent defenders...

m to recall the same kneejerk argument coined when Halo 3's rating was questioned. Perhaps this has nothing to do with jealousy on the part of people who don't prefer Crysis and more to do with insecurity on the part of its most ardent defenders...

Pariah_001

While constructive of the critism of Crysis is welcomed, and yes not everyone is going to like the game, there is alot of mindless bashing going around.

Which yes was the same with Halo 3.

*but saying 'well I thought it was lacking in *insert here*', is much more valid than 'lolz Far Cry 1.5'*.

And there are plenty of fanboys who bash it out of spite and jealousy.

Someone posted this in the Crysis forum. I thought it was great (and true):

The suit powers reflect the player. I had an entirely different experience- I was constantly shifting to cloak to lose the enemy, toggling speed to just rush past a group, and using strength to maintain perfect aim over distance. If all you do is play Crysis like your average shooter- strafe to cover, pop, shoot shoot shoot, repeat- you're never going to really get the whole experience.

Start by just refusing to play cover-crawl, and act like a soldier with such a suit would act... use every power to your advantage, at every moment offered. Speed through a group to get them torn up in crossfire. Strengthen your arms and do some full-auto sniping. Cloak, shotgun, cloak, dash a few feet, shotgun, cloak, repeat to murder a disoriented crowd.

You're the blue-suited Man of Steel with guns and invisibility... you're above that old reliance on cover and firefighting. Why let the enemy fight you on their terms, when you have so many other advantages?Sardaukar138

How can I hate that which I am apathetic towards?

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*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

Pariah_001

Funny. I seem to recall the same kneejerk argument coined when Halo 3's rating was questioned. Perhaps this has nothing to do with jealousy on the part of people who don't prefer Crysis and more to do with insecurity on the part of its most ardent defenders...

Do you want my honest argument against Halo 3? I've played both halo 1 and halo 2, which I've enjoyed thoroughly. When I had my go for Halo 3, it felt like there was hardly anything new, (As in the moment I've started playing, I said to myself, "This is Halo 2.") at all. I really had wish they'd spent more time on it, not to mention I was hoping for a better campaign experience, given it was the last Halo, I thought maybe they'd try to switch something up.

*puts everyone's Crysis hate into a casket and places it 6 feet below*

Anyone who hates on Crysis is...

A. Jealous

B. A fanboy

C. A jealous fanboy

D. Someone who doesn't enjoy amazing games

BioShockOwnz

Man I played the demo at a friends house today (can't run it properly till I get some more RAM D:) and hot damn was that amazing for a Demo. He had it running at Medium and it still looked pretty damn good. The physics were great and I loved the AI. If I had the RAM I would pick this up at launch. Enough with the Crysis hate. Fanboys really do miss out

Do you want my honest argument against Halo 3? I've played both halo 1 and halo 2, which I've enjoyed thoroughly. When I had my go for Halo 3, it felt like there was hardly anything new, (As in the moment I've started playing, I said to myself, "This is Halo 2.") at all. I really had wish they'd spent more time on it, not to mention I was hoping for a better campaign experience, given it was the last Halo, I thought maybe they'd try to switch something up.

NuclearDruid

I was unimpressed by the campaign - which compaired to loads of other titles thsi year, was simply average, and underwhelming (largeley due to the hype), though I was impressed by the multiplayer, and intergration of the new features.

However this constructive critism was met with lots of hostility from Halo fans who loved to call me a hater.
Which is no surprise as there were loads of Cows mindlessly bashing the game.

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

Funny. I seem to recall the same kneejerk argument coined when Halo 3's rating was questioned. Perhaps this has nothing to do with jealousy on the part of people who don't prefer Crysis and more to do with insecurity on the part of its most ardent defenders...

NuclearDruid

Do you want my honest argument against Halo 3? I've played both halo 1 and halo 2, which I've enjoyed thoroughly. When I had my go for Halo 3, it felt like there was hardly anything new, (As in the moment I've started playing, I said to myself, "This is Halo 2.") at all. I really had wish they'd spent more time on it, not to mention I was hoping for a better campaign experience, given it was the last Halo, I thought maybe they'd try to switch something up.

[QUOTE="NuclearDruid"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

Funny. I seem to recall the same kneejerk argument coined when Halo 3's rating was questioned. Perhaps this has nothing to do with jealousy on the part of people who don't prefer Crysis and more to do with insecurity on the part of its most ardent defenders...

Spartan070

Do you want my honest argument against Halo 3? I've played both halo 1 and halo 2, which I've enjoyed thoroughly. When I had my go for Halo 3, it felt like there was hardly anything new, (As in the moment I've started playing, I said to myself, "This is Halo 2.") at all. I really had wish they'd spent more time on it, not to mention I was hoping for a better campaign experience, given it was the last Halo, I thought maybe they'd try to switch something up.

I had a halo 2 coop party with my mate before we went out and bought the game. So... right before I played Halo 3.

I liked the Crysis demo, but I wasn't blown away.

It really did feel kinda similar to the Far Cry demo. Tropical island, go from point A to point B, avoid/fight the soldiers scattered everywhere. The Far Cry demo had a much more pitched battle near the end, but that's not really important.

There are definitely a lot of improvements. The suit's powers give you plenty of flexibility in how you approach a firefight, and there are a number of fun ways to get kills even in a fairly standard situation. I enjoyed cloaking behind people, and then meleeing them in one hit with strength, for example. It took a while to get used to the amount of freedom I had, and what the suit could do, but once I got the hang of things, it worked well.

Yet despite that, it did feel rather similar. Maybe that's just how I played it the first time through, though. I probably cloaked more than I needed to.

I played the demo. I have a decent rig(e6750 @ 3.2 / 2 gigs dd2 RAM / 8800GTS 320).

This game isn't anything special. I could write out a long thing, but I think everythings already been said. Just one more person with a capable computer that isn't impressed.

"The only thing this game has in common with FarCry is that it takes place on a tropical island."

I'm sorry, but thats just untrue. I enjoyed the Crysis demo, thought it was fun, but is clearly is built up version of the Far Cry gameplay, and shares many similiarities. There have been definite improvements made, but to try and act as if this is a whole new FPS gameplay type is a dishonest position to take.