So I hear the 360 has more exclusives than the Playstation 3. (56K Warning)

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#1 sexxxyboy
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And there was also Proof! A spreadsheet and numbers don't lie, Right? I agree.

But my problem is, I can't quite put my finger on why people are not realizing that a bunch of these 360 games are really Arcade Games that you Download, and are rated with the standards of other Arcade Games, lots of which are Last Gen quality.

-------------------------So this spreadsheet gives the impression that the family trivia game 'Scene-it? Box Office Smash', which is a AA 360 exclusive game, is rated with the same standards as Uncharted (both of which got the same score).------------------------------------------------------------------

So I decided to take an in depth look at all of these titles just to see what the numbers on this spreadsheet actually represent, and what other issues come out of it.

What I mean by "other issues", is the answer to the argument "but 360 had more higher scoring exclusives from launch and PS3 took 1 year just to get its first". The answer is simple: The reason PS3 exclusives took so long is because they were developed for the PS3, while some of the 360 exclusives were meant to be released on Xbox1 , but due to the easy PC like architecture of the 360, they were easily moved to the 360, and had no PS3 exclusives to be compared against for people to tell the difference. They were compared to last gen games, and in some cases they Were last gen games. These games also make up the numbers for the spreadsheet.

Here are just some of the games on the spreadsheet, and I am not going to talk about quality as I haven't played any of them, I am only posting them so you can get an idea of the quality for yourself, instead of people "telling you".

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise - 8.5 (2008)

Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action - 7.5 (2007)

Scene It? Box Office Smash - 8 (2008)

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter - 9.2 (2006)


This only reason im putting this game here is because many consider it multiplat and believe this shouldn't be on the spreadsheet because GS has it listed on multiple platforms, and because you play the same story, but regardless it is considered exclusive.

Perfect Dark Zero - 9 (2005)


This is one of those games that could have been done on Xbox1. Also, am I to believe this game is as good as Killzone 2 because they scored the same? It's all a matter of opinion.

Card Game: Culdcept SAGA - 8 (2008)

Chromehounds - 7.9 (2006)


Another xbox1 possible.

If you are wondering about quality, take a look at all the player reviews on the Exclusives by actual 360 owners; the arcade and last-gen looking games are ALWAYS lower than GS's reviews, and this is because people playing these games are reviewing them based on current gen titles as comparison, which is what any person would do, so I don't blame them.

Here are some others so you can see more:

Project Gotham Racing 3 - 8.8 (2005)
Project Gotham Racing 4 - 8.5 (2007)
Kameo: Elements of Power - 8.7 (2005)
Dead or Alive 4 - 8.8 (2006)
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation - 8.5 (2007)
Saints Row - 8.3 (2006) (Saints Row 2 didn't make it)
MotoGP 06 - 8.2 (2006)
Ninja Blade - 7.5 (2009)
Stoked Snowboarding - 7.5 (2009)
Race Pro - 7.5 (2009)
Earth Defense Force 2017 - 7.1 (2007)
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja - 7.5 (2007)
Naruto: The Broken Bond - 7 (2008)

The only games left for 360 exclusives after all of these are the only ones I THINK compare to the ps3 lineup, and i'm pretty sure a lot of other people agree since they are the only ones that are talked about like the PS3 Exclusives are.

3 AAA-
Halo 3 - 9.5 (2007)
Forza 2 - 9.2 (2007)
Gears of War 2 - 9 (2008)

4 AA-
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts - 8.5 (2008)
Fable 2 - 8.5 (2008)
Tales of Vesperia - 8.5 (2008)
Ninja Gaiden II - 8 (2008)

4 A-
Crackdown - 7.8 (2007)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope - 7.5 (2009)
Lost Odyssey - 7.5 (2008)
Beautiful Katamari - 7.5 (2007)

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#2 fenwickhotmail
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You act as if these games diminish in quality because they games don't fit your taste. Exclusives are exclusives.
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#3 WilliamRLBaker
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Translation: they don't count cause i say so. I have no real convincing argument as to WHY they don't count since one can find quite a few like titles on the ps3 but i don't count those titles.

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#4 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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**** yeah culdcept saga. Love that game :)
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#5 Animal-Mother
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lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

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#6 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

Animal-Mother
no no. he's listing those games as games that shouldn't be counted as exclusive because he doesn't like them.
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ace combat 6>>>

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lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

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You didn't even read the thread, did you? :|
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#10 heretrix
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You typed all that just to say very little.

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PDZ=actually a great lookin game besides the models.
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#12 Andrew_Xavier
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So, you're basically saying that the 360 not only has more exclusives, but a more varied selection of exclusives that includes every single genre? Interesting point :?

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#13 smokedagoodyo
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proof perfect dark zero on xbox360 was a rushed launch title suped up from last gen for next gen launch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31W1ogg-Dqo Perfect Dark Zero [XBOX 1 Beta Prototype - UNRELEASED!]
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#14 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

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You didn't even read the thread, did you? :|

Nope I just looked at the purdy pictures though the damage to my rep is done know. **Flies away***
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

Jandurin

no no. he's listing those games as games that shouldn't be counted as exclusive because he doesn't like them.

perfectly valid reason to make a factual list and prove a very important point....:roll:

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#16 smokedagoodyo
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for a last gen game being suped up perfect dark zero rushed on xbox360 the textures actually just as good as killzone2 if not better level textures.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

lol using scene it for ownage. Good list though

Bunj84

no no. he's listing those games as games that shouldn't be counted as exclusive because he doesn't like them.

perfectly valid reason to make a factual list and prove a very important point....:roll:

are you saying the TC is correct? Because a good few of those games are fantastic. Culdcept alone swayed me over to the 360.
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#18 Nonstop-Madness
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talking **** about Viva Pinata = EPIC FAIL , you can do it to Gears or Halo but not Viva Pinata :evil:
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#19 sexxxyboy
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Translation: they don't count cause i say so. I have no real convincing argument as to WHY they don't count since one can find quite a few like titles on the ps3 but i don't count those titles.

WilliamRLBaker
where did i say anything about not counting? or even quality for that fact. all i did was list the games to inform the public and ive clearly stated its so they form their own opinion. ive even said its a matter of opinion.
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#20 sexxxyboy
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oh and sorry guys i missed another download game for "spreadsheet" - shadow complex. now i think ive covered them all :)
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#21 Floppy_Jim
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PD:Z looks awful, I think you actually did use a screenshot from an old Xbox game there.
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#22 sexxxyboy
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PD:Z looks awful, I think you actually did use a screenshot from an old Xbox game there. Floppy_Jim
i took it from the 360 game from gamespot, check the link
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#23 PAL360
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Yeah, it actually has:

XBOX 360


AAAE - 5

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2

AAE - 12

DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Saints Row
MotoGP 06
Scene it

AE - 12

Star Ocean 4
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Namco Museum
Lost Odyssey
Scene it?
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

PS3


AAAAE - 1

MGS4

AAAE - 4

LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2
Resistance 2
inFamous

AAE - 7

Resistance
Valkyria Chronicles
Warhawk
Motorstorm PR
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
Ridge Racer 7

AE - 11

Motorstorm
Naruto
Disgaea 3
Buzz!
SingStar
Gran Turismo Prologue
Hot Shots Golf
Ratchet and Clank
The Eye of Judgement
SingStar V3
Folklore

Still its funny that games like Ridge Racer 7, Buzz!, Singstar, SingStar V3, etc...are part of the list of GOOD and GREAT PS3 exclusives too :P

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]PD:Z looks awful, I think you actually did use a screenshot from an old Xbox game there. sexxxyboy
i took it from the 360 game from gamespot, check the link

I bet Rare aren't proud of that. On another note- 29 360 exclusives vs 23 PS3 exclusives judging by PAL360's list :o
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Project Gotham Racing 4 - 8.5 (2007) Kameo: Elements of Power - 8.7 (2005) Dead or Alive 4 - 8.8 (2006) Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation - 8.5 (2007) Are you crazy??? these 4 games are better than most ps3 exclusives PGR4 is the best racing game this gen !!
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#26 Verge_6
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Christ almighty, MORE people who can't see past their own opinions? We're screwed, we're all just freaking screwed.

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#27 sexxxyboy
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but anyways guys, this thread argument is only for the time being, once the over 25 ps3 exclusives are released within 2009-2010 alone, no longer will they even be comparable in terms of numbers anymore :)
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but anyways guys, this thread argument is only for the time being, once the over 25 ps3 exclusives are released within 2009-2010 alone, no longer will they even be comparable in terms of numbers anymore :)sexxxyboy
But what if over 26 360 exclusives release within 2009-2010 alone?
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]but anyways guys, this thread argument is only for the time being, once the over 25 ps3 exclusives are released within 2009-2010 alone, no longer will they even be comparable in terms of numbers anymore :)Floppy_Jim
But what if over 26 360 exclusives release within 2009-2010 alone?

lol and where are these games we havent heard of. im talking about announced ones alone, let alone what we dont know about yet
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#30 EndorphinMaster
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Translation: they don't count cause i say so. I have no real convincing argument as to WHY they don't count since one can find quite a few like titles on the ps3 but i don't count those titles.

WilliamRLBaker

Right on. Whining about it won't change the fact that 360 has more exclusives than PS3.

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#31 spinecaton
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Culdcept Saga is absolutely amazing, sorry that you never gave it a chance.

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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]but anyways guys, this thread argument is only for the time being, once the over 25 ps3 exclusives are released within 2009-2010 alone, no longer will they even be comparable in terms of numbers anymore :)Floppy_Jim
But what if over 26 360 exclusives release within 2009-2010 alone?

Then he goes into damage control mode and find reasons to make them not count. ;)
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]but anyways guys, this thread argument is only for the time being, once the over 25 ps3 exclusives are released within 2009-2010 alone, no longer will they even be comparable in terms of numbers anymore :)sexxxyboy
But what if over 26 360 exclusives release within 2009-2010 alone?

lol and where are these games we havent heard of. im talking about announced ones alone, let alone what we dont know about yet

Out of interest can you list the 25+ PS3 games? I wouldn't dream of countering it with a 360 list, you guys are the undisputed masters of list wars.
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Culdcept Saga and Viva Pinata are two of the best gems of this entire gen. Anyone who didn't play them missed out severely, especially if you opted for yet again another shooter instead.

But variety doesn't count for anything, right?

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="sexxxyboy"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] But what if over 26 360 exclusives release within 2009-2010 alone?

lol and where are these games we havent heard of. im talking about announced ones alone, let alone what we dont know about yet

Out of interest can you list the 25+ PS3 games? I wouldn't dream of countering it with a 360 list, you guys are the undisputed masters of list wars.

check the E3 list of ps3 exclusive games, which was 23 or 24, then add on the couple that have recently been revealed. one of which is going to use the sony wand for spring 2010, and etc etc
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holy crap i'm not the only one to extol culdcept in this thread. the world must be ending D=
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holy crap i'm not the only one to extol culdcept in this thread. the world must be ending D=Jandurin

Hell, I had a CS sig for the longest time. Of course, I made it in paint (thus the crumby look), but that just shows how much I love Culdcept Saga!!!

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Took me a minute to find, but there it is.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]holy crap i'm not the only one to extol culdcept in this thread. the world must be ending D=3KindgomsRandy

Hell, I had a CS sig for the longest time. Of course, I made it in paint (thus the crumby look), but that just shows how much I love Culdcept Saga!!!

 Took me a minute to find, but there it is.

haha, nice
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PD:Z looks awful, I think you actually did use a screenshot from an old Xbox game there. Floppy_Jim
actually the game looks pretty damn good that's just a bad screen development screen released before game was released lol.
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#40 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Translation: they don't count cause i say so. I have no real convincing argument as to WHY they don't count since one can find quite a few like titles on the ps3 but i don't count those titles.

sexxxyboy
where did i say anything about not counting? or even quality for that fact. all i did was list the games to inform the public and ive clearly stated its so they form their own opinion. ive even said its a matter of opinion.

you've given nothing let alone a convincing argument why the games you've listed shouldn't count which was the whole point of your topic.
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#41 InsaneBasura
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Um, just get whatever games that suit your taste then. Or something. I don't know. What appears to be the problem?
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#42 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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If I can handle playing Bratz on the PS2, I can handle those.
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By attempting to "inform" that these X360 games as not being subject to the same standards as other games (you mention Uncharted for instance) you really are shooting yourself in the foot.

1) Both normal Viva Pinata games (not Party Animals) are spectacular

2) The Scene-It games scored well because they are...fun. I know it may be a foreign concept to you, but the point of playing games is to entertain, and sitting down to play those games with a group of friends is one of the most entertaining experiences I've had this gen, bar none. When my college buddies and I shared an apartment with a PS3 and X360 I can't count the number of times we had great multiplayer experiences on the X360. On the PS3 that happened maybe once or twice, that being checking out cool levels on Little Big Planet.

3) Chromehounds is pretty much the best mech simulation game on the market,except for Steel Battalion. I'm not really sure what you're going for.

Just because some of the X360 exclusives are older does not dimish the entertainment or quality of their experience. To suggest otherwise is horribly fanboyish.

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Translation: they don't count cause i say so. I have no real convincing argument as to WHY they don't count since one can find quite a few like titles on the ps3 but i don't count those titles.

WilliamRLBaker
lol. yup, thats what it sounds like to me.
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#46 cainetao11
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So I hear no matter if it's exclusive or not, my console will play it. Why does any of this matter? You have a PS3? So do I, the choice has been made. What does trying to prove your choice was right and another's is wrong do for you?
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#47 opex07
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check the E3 list of ps3 exclusive games, which was 23 or 24, then add on the couple that have recently been revealed. one of which is going to use the sony wand for spring 2010, and etc etcsexxxyboy
What's this E3 list you keep referring to in several different threads?

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#48 sexxxyboy
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"] check the E3 list of ps3 exclusive games, which was 23 or 24, then add on the couple that have recently been revealed. one of which is going to use the sony wand for spring 2010, and etc etcopex07

What's this E3 list you keep referring to in several different threads?

TrealSince or something made an official E3 thread and he had all the exclusives listed there.
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**** yeah culdcept saga. Love that game :)Jandurin
I've got 3/4 of the achievements. 8) It truly is a fun game. Too bad no one plays it online! >.
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#50 tagyhag
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I thought PDZ was a beautiful game for a launch title.

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