So id Software remain the most perfect gaming developer today still?

Hello friends,

Talking about gameplay perspective in general. I dont think there are any other developers today who made gameplay perfect. we have seen CDPR who always make bad gameplay and shallow games, we have seen ubisoft make same copy paste open world generic formula, we have seen Rockstar while make detailed games but thier mission design is scripted and feel more like movie games.

Rest of developers are obsessed with movie games.

Enter id Software, they have been in business since 80s and i remember they have yet to make a bad game (Rage 1 was thier weakest), they always released finish products and thier games always been well optimize. that is why Doom and Doom Eternal are 2 of most praised games on steam with overwelmingly positive.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/DOOM/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/782330/DOOM_Eternal/

I mean both have 96% overwelmingly positive on steam. beside Doom Eternal which robbed from every award because not mainstream movie game enough for journalist. it was not get any award instead movie games get awards.

my friends, I believe when it comes to dedication, Gameplay, optimization, finish products. they are only one that are among most perfect gaming developers today.

what do you think? lets discuss

10-3, though this one's too easy.

id made Quake II (AKA John Carmack's papier-mache corridor of wonders), Doom 3 (AKA System Shock 2? Never heard of it, nor do we know what duct tape is) and Rage (AKA not very mad and actually very restrained Max). Also, there is argument to be made that Doom Eternal is a bit bloated, lacks the clean simplicity of Doom 2016, and is therefore arguably not as good.

So yeah, they're nowhere near perfect.

Nope

I'm gonna say the big, bad N word for this thread.

I mean the first Rage wasn't well received. Doom 3 reception is mixed, and some of the Quakes are hit or miss.

Good but not perfect

Nope keep dreaming

Yes, and DOOM 3 was perfect in every single way.

Sorry Ghost. Doom Eternal is 88 on metacritic..even Cyberpunk is higher than that.

88 is great score. most best games fall under that on meta.

its a game. not some shitty movie so of course mainstream media wont praise it much.

No. When it comes to consistent quality in a product I would say that belongs to Nintendo.

@ghosts4ever: And another swing and a miss...

Alas DOOM Eternal fails to rank highly at all among users on Steam: https://steamdb.info/stats/gameratings/

But gamers, like the mainstream corrupt media, like movie trash like Portal 2, Hades, and Factorio - so none of the scoring systems matter. DOOMFTW

@Archangel3371:

Paper Mario: Sticker Stars, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Metroid Prime: Federation Force, Star Fox Zero, Metroid: Other M...

...that's just off the top of my head. Even many of their games that are considered "good" have baffling design choices.

@ghosts4ever: The user score is 78. What's your excuse for that?

@xantufrog: ? Portal 2 and Hades are movie games now, am I reading your post correct? If I am I'm sorry for your head injury and hope you get better soon.

@vfighter: ...

I'm being facetious

@madrocketeer: Given the amount of games that they’ve put out I still say that when it comes to consistent quality and polish of a product they are at the top.

steam user score matters more. metacritic user score was based on older denuvo version that has not update.

@xantufrog: Oh thank God, sorry, but it's not always easy to that in a post even if it's fairly obvious.

@ghosts4ever: Steam user score is a joke, just like you and your posts.

@ghosts4ever: I thought the first Doom was fun, and Doom eternal was a chore. Didn’t bother finishing it.

Didnt ID software do RAGE 2?

id is an amazing FPS developer. Possibly the best.

But does a developer doing a good FPS sometimes beat Nintendo, masters of game design, releaser of many different games whereas all of them are good, in all different kind of genres? No dude.

I think they helped Avalanche Studios (pretty bad studio) with the game. And the part they helped with (the shooting) is about the only good part of the game.

If you wanna complain about something id Software, complain about the mediocre Quake Champions. Not sure how much id Software is to blame though, or if it was mostly Saber Interactive who sucked..

Nintendo have produced stinkers, but as far as consistent quality goes, especially with long running IP's, very much good good.

Valve as well, but their output is comparatively minuscule.

Yeah Nintendo is the only company where I can go: Their transition to 3D went really smoothly.

Everytime they make a new console their transition of their franchises to that new hardware goes really well.

But boy their handling of IP really stinks on Switch:

Where's Pikmin (a new one?)

Where's Donkey Kong (a new one?)

Where's Metroid?

Where's the new IP?

no

TC is wrong once again, as always.

But to be fair, Doom Eternal (a.k.a. Doom May Cry) is the best FPS of the generation.

As far as FPS go, id Software could be considered the best in the genre, rivalled only by Epic Games and Valve back in their heyday.

Yes. And they are now part of Xbox Game Studios.

I bet the OP has a tat of Doom guy (the worst name in all of video games) on his back lol.

Pretty much every game they make that puts you behind a gun has some redeeming gameplay quality, and their game almost always look great.

The main problem they have is a lack of ideas. They seem to just chase trends.

Yeah his "back" lol...

@curbstomp01: Holy shit another alt, come on mods let's start stomping this alta and getting things under control.

@vfighter: You think thats going to happen lol.

Phlops been here for ages and we all know he's an alt of an alt of an alt and so on, then there's ghosts lol.

@biggest_loser: Well I was trying to keep it PG as there are kids on this site lol.

But if they ever made a TPS, even if it were the best one ever made, some people would just lose their shit over it.

I played both Doom Eternal and TLOU2. Sure, one is FPS and the other is TPS, but if you evaluate their gameplay, TLOU2 is far superior at shooting mechanics, enemy AI, strategic freedom, stage design, and of course visual and music.

To be honest, after playing TLOU2, Doom Etneral felt like a generation-old game with ugly visuals and sloppy controls.

Last of us 2 is movie game. so Im glad Doom Eternal feel "outdated" because its old school.

@ghosts4ever: I wouldn't call them perfect but...I love some DOOM!

1. From Software - the Souls games rule

2. Nintendo for consistent quality and gameplay-oriented design.

3. Obsidian - the best RPG makers on the market: Fallout New Vegas, Pillars of Eternity 1/2, The Outer Worlds

4. Larian Studio - the 2nd best gameplay-oriented RPGs makers: Divinity 1/2, Baldurs Gaste 3

5. Naughty Dogs - The best 3rd person adventures maker

6. Ubisoft - we hate them for extreme monetization but the quality of their AAA titles is pretty consistent and we know what to expect.

7. Rockstar - consistent AAA production values.