So if PC's are so great why is DELL out of Business ?

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

macmutt

Gaming PCs are built by the gamer.

Dell sucks. Their computers arecrappy and their customer service is even worse. What they had going for them was good marketing and cheap low end computers. Now their advertising sucks and there are cheaper brands out.

for the record dell is cutting jobs not going out of business.

I didn't realize Dell was out of business...

O wait, its because they're not.

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

macmutt

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

macmutt

heh?

http://www.dell.com/home/desktops

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

macmutt

I can build my own and it will be cheap and sweet.

http://blog.totalbankruptcy.com/archives/bankruptcy-and-the-economy-dell-computer-announces-8000-layoffs.html

Okay heres a link regarding their bankruptcy and initial layoff of over 8000 workers.

http://blog.totalbankruptcy.com/archives/bankruptcy-and-the-economy-dell-computer-announces-8000-layoffs.html

Okay heres a link regarding their bankruptcy and initial layoff of over 8000 workers.

macmutt

That is from June 1st.... 2007.

I think Dell is save.

http://blog.totalbankruptcy.com/archives/bankruptcy-and-the-economy-dell-computer-announces-8000-layoffs.html

Okay heres a link regarding their bankruptcy and initial layoff of over 8000 workers.

macmutt

That is from June 2007

In real news Dell is laying off 1900 workers at a plant in Ireland.

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

kejigoto

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

macmutt

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

[QUOTE="macmutt"][QUOTE="kejigoto"]

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

swazidoughman

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it.macmutt

Vista came out in 2007. You may want to check a calendar it is 2009. Windows 7 looks like it would come out sometime in 2010.

Because Dell is garbage?hiphops_savior

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="macmutt"] Are you serious ? Apple doesn't need to attack PC's or Microsoft the Windows Vista O.S. is doing a good enough job of failing all on it's own. Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it. Now i haven't even seen this Windows 7 yet, but i'll bet you anything it will coincidentally resemble Apples operating system, and by the way Apples are as special as they are because there made 10 times more durable, there much more easy on the eyes and they work, without virus software, spyware and all the other crap thats found on a PC, so please don't even compare PC's to Mac's PC's are not even fit to shine a Mac's shoes. So go ahead and scour your local flea market and piece together your PC, then go and buy the most bug and virus ridden Windows O.S. you can find and keep your fingers crossed that it'll actually work error free for a month or more and i'll stick to my local Apple store where computers are built and custom built to out last even the most expensive PC's.macmutt

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

Because they're a business and they need to release new products to make money.

And Vista became a decent OS after SP1 fyi.

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

macmutt

Don't even try to tell me that Dell wasn't a top of the line computer because at one time they were the best selling PC maker the world over and now their gone.

How ever not only is Apple still going strong, but their making better profits every year.

So needless to say i can't wait to hear what PC gamers have to say about one of, if not thee most popular PC computer companies in the world going under.

macmutt

the two have no connection whatsoever. the average consumer is blind, and knows nothing about quality only price.

PC is the way to go for FPS period. Keyboard/Mouse is better than ANY console controller.

MMO's? PC wins again.

Graphics? Overall Hardware? PC.

PCs ARE great for gaming. You can totally build a hardware monster that would slap all over any of the current gen consoles. I game on both consoles AND a PC and I have no complaints really about either. I honestly couldn't be without either one.

[QUOTE="macmutt"][QUOTE="kejigoto"]

Letus not forget that Apple has their hands in many pots and has a pretty good hold on the MP3 market with the iPod and the iPhone is doing rather well too. If PC's were in fact doing as bad as you'd like to make things out to be, why are all games made with Windows in mind and Apple's system as an afterthought? Why is it Apple computers run a Windows emulator so Windows applications can be used on their own system?

Dell was merely a maker of computers, one of many companies out there that make computers. When it comes to Apple and their side of the board, well they don't have much to compete with, you buy a Mac, ya bought from Apple, you buy a PC, who knows where it came from, not to mention that most out there can easily build their own PC without much issue. The PC industry continues to dominate over Apple, that's why Apple has had to lower itself to cheap blows and insults for advertising instead... oh I dunno... talking about what their product does and why you should buy it. Apple's advertising and mindset is that of a fanboy, "lolroflcopter Vista has problems, you suck!" where as Microsoft and other companies supporting the PC, talk about why either Windows is the way to go or why you should buy one of their PCs.

Also way to fail like no other posting an article from over a year ago. Dude! You need to get with the times!

swazidoughman

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

I find that the majority of people who bash Vista are those who have never actually used it before and/or are easily impressionable by mainstream opinions. Early Vista had some bugs and performance issues yes, but in its current state it has become quite stable.

Just for the note, when you consider the amount of Windows users to Macs, its pretty obvious Windows will have more malware targetting towards it. If your a douchebag who is devising a virus, it doesn't take much logic for you to decide that targetting the larger user base is more effective.

Also your Mac vs. PC statement emphasizes the reason why mac users get labeled with negative tags that depict blind ignorant fanboys. There are so many things wrong with that comment it's depressing.

[QUOTE="macmutt"] Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it.Chaos_HL21

Vista came out in 2007. You may want to check a calendar it is 2009. Windows 7 looks like it would come out sometime in 2010.

So if Windows is so stable then why is Microsoft rushing out this new Windows 7 O.S. only a year after Vista's release ?macmutt

Vista released January 2007. Windows 7 will release January 2010.

3 years. And that is just MS going back to their 3 year cycle. Windows XP was an anomaly. The fact that it was 6 years from XP releasing to Vista was very odd for MS.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="macmutt"] Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it.macmutt

Vista came out in 2007. You may want to check a calendar it is 2009. Windows 7 looks like it would come out sometime in 2010.

Ubuntu has a new release every 6 months and it's a great linux distro.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="macmutt"] Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it.macmutt

Vista came out in 2007. You may want to check a calendar it is 2009. Windows 7 looks like it would come out sometime in 2010.

MS has done 3 year cycles for their OS's since they began.... XP was an anomaly that they never intended to repeat.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="macmutt"] Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it.macmutt

Vista came out in 2007. You may want to check a calendar it is 2009. Windows 7 looks like it would come out sometime in 2010.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="macmutt"] Are you serious ? Apple doesn't need to attack PC's or Microsoft the Windows Vista O.S. is doing a good enough job of failing all on it's own. Why do you think Microsoft is rushing to get this new Windows 7 out a mere year after Vista's release, because Vista is so bug ridden and has such an endless list of problems that no PC user wants to upgrade to it. Now i haven't even seen this Windows 7 yet, but i'll bet you anything it will coincidentally resemble Apples operating system, and by the way Apples are as special as they are because there made 10 times more durable, there much more easy on the eyes and they work, without virus software, spyware and all the other crap thats found on a PC, so please don't even compare PC's to Mac's PC's are not even fit to shine a Mac's shoes. So go ahead and scour your local flea market and piece together your PC, then go and buy the most bug and virus ridden Windows O.S. you can find and keep your fingers crossed that it'll actually work error free for a month or more and i'll stick to my local Apple store where computers are built and custom built to out last even the most expensive PC's.Foamybrian

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

I find that the majority of people who bash Vista are those who have never actually used it before and/or are easily impressionable by mainstream opinions. Early Vista had some bugs and performance issues yes, but in its current state it has become quite stable.

Just for the note, when you consider the amount of Windows users to Macs, its pretty obvious Windows will have more malware targetting towards it. If your a douchebag who is devising a virus, it doesn't take much logic for you to decide that targetting the larger user base is more effective.

Also your Mac vs. PC statement emphasizes the reason why mac users get labeled with negative tags that depict blind ignorant fanboys. There are so many things wrong with that comment it's depressing.

[QUOTE="Foamybrian"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Windows is stable if you're not a complete idiot and you know how to use a computer.

macmutt

I find that the majority of people who bash Vista are those who have never actually used it before and/or are easily impressionable by mainstream opinions. Early Vista had some bugs and performance issues yes, but in its current state it has become quite stable.

Just for the note, when you consider the amount of Windows users to Macs, its pretty obvious Windows will have more malware targetting towards it. If your a douchebag who is devising a virus, it doesn't take much logic for you to decide that targetting the larger user base is more effective.

Also your Mac vs. PC statement emphasizes the reason why mac users get labeled with negative tags that depict blind ignorant fanboys. There are so many things wrong with that comment it's depressing.

Ok so you don't know how to use a computer.

You don't seem to get it do you ? i am a Mac user therefore i don't need to bash PC's, i own the most user friendly and reliable computer on the planet, so as far as i'm concerned you have no argument. what is your argument that you have a larger user base, okay, wow good for you, that just means that those people who jumped on board with the first G.U.I. O.S. to hit the market are still following blindly from one incarnation of Windows to the next, However if you put them in front of a Mac long enough for them to familiarize themselves with the O.S., they'd drop the PC in a heart beat, and that's not my opinion it's a fact, in the now 10 years that i have owned a Mac, i have personally converted almost 20 family and friends over to a Mac and they still thank me to this day because they were so tired of pop ups, virus scans, freeze ups, and spyware issues and the list goes on. So you see you have no argument because there isn't one, Macs are better and as for the video games side of it, i am a pro console gamer never gamed on a PC and never will, so again you have no argument there.macmutt

there out of buisness?naruto7777

No, TC link was from June 2007, and was just about Dell cutting jobs. Nothing about them going out of business.

[QUOTE="macmutt"][QUOTE="Foamybrian"]

I find that the majority of people who bash Vista are those who have never actually used it before and/or are easily impressionable by mainstream opinions. Early Vista had some bugs and performance issues yes, but in its current state it has become quite stable.

Just for the note, when you consider the amount of Windows users to Macs, its pretty obvious Windows will have more malware targetting towards it. If your a douchebag who is devising a virus, it doesn't take much logic for you to decide that targetting the larger user base is more effective.

Also your Mac vs. PC statement emphasizes the reason why mac users get labeled with negative tags that depict blind ignorant fanboys. There are so many things wrong with that comment it's depressing.

swazidoughman

Ok so you don't know how to use a computer.

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"][QUOTE="macmutt"] You don't seem to get it do you ? i am a Mac user therefore i don't need to bash PC's, i own the most user friendly and reliable computer on the planet, so as far as i'm concerned you have no argument. what is your argument that you have a larger user base, okay, wow good for you, that just means that those people who jumped on board with the first G.U.I. O.S. to hit the market are still following blindly from one incarnation of Windows to the next, However if you put them in front of a Mac long enough for them to familiarize themselves with the O.S., they'd drop the PC in a heart beat, and that's not my opinion it's a fact, in the now 10 years that i have owned a Mac, i have personally converted almost 20 family and friends over to a Mac and they still thank me to this day because they were so tired of pop ups, virus scans, freeze ups, and spyware issues and the list goes on. So you see you have no argument because there isn't one, Macs are better and as for the video games side of it, i am a pro console gamer never gamed on a PC and never will, so again you have no argument there.macmutt

Ok so you don't know how to use a computer.

[QUOTE="macmutt"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Ok so you don't know how to use a computer.

Dynafrom