So is bloodborne still the (graphics) king of all games

I started playing bloodborne like a couple of days ago and when looking in awe how amazing this game looks I realized that this isn't the only reason why I like the souls games so much.

I will never forget when somebody invaded my game in dark souls. I was in blighttown, you know the underground level with the poisonous swamps. I was dead scared, since invasions weren't very common in dark souls I , not for me anyway, I was mostly hollow, and it already cost me blood, sweat and tears getting there.

The first thing I thought was hide, and so it happens that I had a chameleon spell. I ran to one of the islands in the poisonous swamps , hid between a bunch of vases and rocks and changed into a vase myself with the chameleon spell. I waited there, for like a halfhour, I smoked some cigarettes and watched the invader search through all the islands in the poisonous swamps. He came to my island last, since it was farther away than the other islands.

When he got there he was already to one third of his health, because the swamps brought his health down and as an invader he cannot heal. He past me, I changed back to my original form and surprised attack him, he didn't die right away and even almost killed me, this guy was good and very experienced but I still got the better of him.

Now the message I got afterwards is the best hatemail I've ever got. Without exaggerating, he used the f-word about 50 times in just a couple of minutes of shouting , screaming and losing all humanity he had left. It is something that you will only encounter in a souls game.

Having said that, souls games are not only best games in terms of originality, they also have the best artwork, graphics, sound effects, and gameplay. I could kick myself for not playing bloodborne last year, but heck I didn't have a playstation, but now I have...

Man, far from it, none of the Souls games are graphics contenders. In most ways, Bloodborne just looks like a really good looking PS3 game.

That said, Bloodborne does have one of my favorite art styles in a game, ever.

it never was

I would disagree there, the lighting and some of the texture work is significantly above what you would see on the PS3. Its also one of the few PS4 games to actually use Tessellation in the environment. It's far from a graphics king but its certainly a good looking game.

You can't get invaded while being hollow in DS1.

On topic, it never was, but it's definitely at most points way the **** better looking than lots of console games out there, though you don't have to look far for bad parts too.

I was mostly hollow but not that time

I don't understand how you could compare this with a ps3 game and how everyone here just ignores the graphics quality.

You can't run this game at 4k, so don't compare it with games running at 4k as well.

1. From Software will never make a graphics king... ever

2. Assassin's Creed Syndicate looks better

3. Rise of The Tomb Raider looks better

4. Dying Light: The Following looks better

Lol no. Outside the enemy designs those games look atrocious

I don't game in 4k at all, nor was I comparing it to games in 4k. 4k is just a resolution anyways, sure it delivers a clean ass image, but it's only one of many factors. Beyond that, you're talking about "graphics king", so anything goes. If someone wants to compare this to a game running in 4k then what's the issue?

I compare it to a PS3 game as much of the geometry and texture work in it is very much comparable to a top end PS3 game. As the poster above said, there is some (apparent) tessellation at play in conjunction with what appears to be some heavy parallax mapping. So I'm not saying it's completely last gen looking. Even given the low object quality there are typically so many objects populating a scene that it's somewhat understandable.

All I'm saying is that yes, the game does look good (especially the art style holy shit), but it does have a cross gen look about it in many ways and it's far from being a graphics king at all. It was already outclassed by many games that came before it. It's already been outclassed by other games on the PS4.

It's an awesome game, one of my favorites this gen, I'm just not going to oversell its visuals here.

Also that.

I'll be pleased if they could just get their shit together on performance. A game that looks like Bloodborne should be hitting 60fps, but instead it struggles to maintain the 30.

From Software designs some cool games, but their tech end blows dick.

I mean I do applaud them for their games consistenly looking better. We got the drab and ugly Demon and Dark Souls. The better looking DS II and now the great looking Bloodborne and Dark Souls III.

But yeah, they still have a lot of work to be done. And on the tech side of their games should still improve.

They don't really reach the best of the industry like DICE with their Frostbite engine. Which delivers amazing graphics coupled with great performance.

Artistically, yes. Technically, **** NO. FROMSOFT's engine is an abomination. I wonder, why are they still using the same thing since Demon's Souls? Why is it too hard to make a Souls title running on UE4? I sure would take its current fugly graphics with amazing campaign, art style, bosses and loads of content over shiny graphics. But holy shit can we finally get nice graphics AND the amazingness of current Souls titles? Why can a game such as TW3 has both but not any of the Souls games? I can't think of a single reason other than 'lol Japanese dev and their outdated ways'. No way is it because of the physics/animations that they're scared of messing, no way. At least Bethesda's relic engine has one thing going for it, its moddablity but what about the Souls engine? Nothing. Just a crappy engine that been around since forever.

@silversix_ said:

Artistically, yes. Technically, **** NO. FROMSOFT's engine is an abomination. I wonder, why are they still using the same thing since Demon's Souls? Why is it too hard to make a Souls title running on UE4? I sure would take its current fugly graphics with amazing campaign, art style, bosses and loads of content over shiny graphics. But holy shit can we finally get nice graphics AND the amazingness of current Souls titles? Why can a game such as TW3 has both but not any of the Souls games? I can't think of a single reason other than 'lol Japanese dev and their outdated ways'. No way is it because of the physics/animations that they're scared of messing, no way. At least Bethesda's relic engine has one thing going for it, its moddablity but what about the Souls engine? Nothing. Just a crappy engine that been around since forever.

Do they use the same engine as souls I and II , it sure as hell doesn't look like it. I played souls II on the pc on max graphics and it looks ugly compared to bloodborne.

@commander said:

@silversix_ said:

Artistically, yes. Technically, **** NO. FROMSOFT's engine is an abomination. I wonder, why are they still using the same thing since Demon's Souls? Why is it too hard to make a Souls title running on UE4? I sure would take its current fugly graphics with amazing campaign, art style, bosses and loads of content over shiny graphics. But holy shit can we finally get nice graphics AND the amazingness of current Souls titles? Why can a game such as TW3 has both but not any of the Souls games? I can't think of a single reason other than 'lol Japanese dev and their outdated ways'. No way is it because of the physics/animations that they're scared of messing, no way. At least Bethesda's relic engine has one thing going for it, its moddablity but what about the Souls engine? Nothing. Just a crappy engine that been around since forever.

Do they use the same engine as souls I and II , it sure as hell doesn't look like it. I played souls II on the pc on max graphics and it looks ugly compared to bloodborne.

Can't tell for sure but i'd imagine its their "heavily modified" *as devs love to say* Demon's Souls engine that they call 'new'. Just like CoD engine being new,,, not exactly new.

@ConanTheStoner: I was saying the same thing about BB looking like a pimped up PS3 game before it was even released but cows were willing to crucify me.

And now your opinion seems legit.

Funny how it works.

@Salt_The_Fries:

Well I didn't keep up with every scrap of footage before release, but I do know that a lot of the trailers cherry picked the best looking shit and mixed in some CG footage.

So it was probably these two things that got you crucified.

1. Deceptively good looking footage. People wanted to believe the PS4 was some super computer and were foolish enough to think that a From Software game would prove it.

2. Cows with an upcoming deity exclusive.

It's a great game where I've sunk some hundreds of hours but a graphics king? Have you actually played any other games?

Ever since commander got his PS4 he's becoming the most annoying obnoxious fanboy on system wars. Congrats.

Bloodborne was never graphics king.

Neat artstyle though.

Great art style and I love the environment and atmosphere but it's far from being a graphics king. The game looks great btw but I can't help but think it could have looked a lot better if they used a good game engine. From software was never about graphics, they just make good looking games.

I love me some bloodborne but it's no graphics king

It wasn't graphics king to begin with and it still isn't.

You need prescription glasses if you think this has the best graphics of any game

Bloodborne has the best graphics in the same way Kanye West has the most money.

Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true lol fan boys man I tell ya

Good looking game but never was graphics king.

Bloodborne has one of the best artstyles I've seen in recent yearas. When you buy that first set of Yharman armor and the blood splashes all over it.... fucking A+.

Graphics wise it certainly couldn't be confused for a PS3 game but neither is it a graphics king.

someone drank too much beer last night

Witcher 3 looks better, AC Syndicate looks better, MGS 5 looks better (and runs at 60 fps), Arkham Knight looks better, uncharted 4 will look better than all of them.

Not sure i agree it have best artwork, that kinda opinion. I take the clear, crisp and colorful artwork of The Witness over the dark depressing Souls games any day in the week...

battlefraud ea is currently the best looking game, unfortunately it is garbage

So is bloodborne still the (graphics) king of all games

NO.

It looks good from a distance, but human models stil look weird as sin.

There are times when it does look particularly striking, but it's nothing exceptional. The game shines in more important areas.

Not even close.

It has a nice art style but I wouldn't say the graphics are any better than quite a few other games in recent years. I might get Dark Souls 3 which will be my first souls game. Just never had a desire to play them before but 3 looks pretty good.

was it ever graphical king?

Just chromatic aberration king.

Maybe for PS3 graphics, sure...lol

@commander: Bloodborne has great atmosphere , great graphics and art and all but ... Graphic king ? Not even close. And with UC4 around the corner ... GL to any game that will try to dethrone it as graphic king and its not a PC game.

OP is talking about artistic graphics, in terms of art design, not technical graphics. What Souls/Bloodborne lacks in technical graphics, it more than makes up for with great art design.

I literally laughed out loud when I read the title lol.

I believe it comes down to Ryse and Rise of The Tomb Raider for me.

@commander I guess you made this thread knowing full well what the response was going to be. When did you go full cow anyway?

Well, they are a lem, so what would you expect?

No but Killzone 2 still kicks ass

You need to play more games If you think BB is that.

@intotheminx: I loled when i read your comment

Doesn't the game 1st have to be the graphics king in order to still be it? Since BB was NEVER graphics king I think we can officially close this thread.