So is FFXIII: Versus an expansion now?

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#1 Utensilman
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Now that Halo 3: Recon is an expansion pack and cannot be compared to a "stand alone" game, I'm going to go as far to say FFXIII: Versus is the exact same, a FFXIII expansion pack and cannot be compared to full games.
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#2 OutlawStarXIII
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Is Halo 3: Recon being retailed at stores? And not a DLC add on to Halo 3?
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#3 Utensilman
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Is Halo 3: Recon being retailed at stores? And not a DLC add on to Halo 3?OutlawStarXIII

yes, it's only purchaseable through box

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#4 lantus
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Halo 3 Recon is a whole new game set in the Halo universe, and is being treated as a new game. So yes, I would say they're similar, because both Versus XIII and Recon both take place in their respective universe at different periods in time.
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#5 OutlawStarXIII
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Is Halo 3: Recon being retailed at stores? And not a DLC add on to Halo 3?Utensilman

yes, it's only purchaseable through box

Well then its not an expansion then.
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#6 hayato_
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This won't end well. How is Versus XIII, a game that has nothing to do with FF XIII, an expansion?

Im just..........tired. Thats all, jsut a little bit tired. I need sleep.

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#7 Blackbond
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I'm gonna say that you're wrong.
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#8 Utensilman
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This won't end well. How is Versus XIII, a game that has nothing to do with FF XIII, an expansion?

Im just..........tired. Thats all, jsut a little bit tired. I need sleep.

hayato_

what does Recon have to do with Halo's story-line?

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#9 Utensilman
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I'm gonna say that you're wrong.Blackbond

I don't actually believe that FFXIII:V and H3 arn't full games, I'm just pointing out how stupid people sound when saying Recon cannot be compared to full games and is just an expansion pack.

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#10 hayato_
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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

This won't end well. How is Versus XIII, a game that has nothing to do with FF XIII, an expansion?

Im just..........tired. Thats all, jsut a little bit tired. I need sleep.

Utensilman

what does Recon have to do with Halo's story-line?

I don't know, nor do I really stand to care..............im going to sleep. This debate might get longer then what it is supposed to be.

Im just gonna agree with you.

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#12 naruto7777
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no its not an expansion pack
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#13 SolidTy
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Now that Halo 3: Recon is an expansion pack and cannot be compared to a "stand alone" game, I'm going to go as far to say FFXIII: Versus is the exact same, a FFXIII expansion pack and cannot be compared to full games.Utensilman

TC, that doesn't make anysense.

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#14 -DrRobotnik-
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Halo 3 Recon is a whole new game set in the Halo universe, and is being treated as a new game. So yes, I would say they're similar, because both Versus XIII and Recon both take place in their respective universe at different periods in time.lantus

Its just an expansion of the Halo 3 campaign. The new multiplayer maps that ship with the expansion will actually be made available much earlier through DLC for Halo 3. And people playing online in Recon will still be able to play people playing online in Halo 3.

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#15 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna say that you're wrong.Utensilman

I don't actually believe that FFXIII:V and H3 arn't full games, I'm just pointing out how stupid people sound when saying Recon cannot be compared to full games and is just an expansion pack.

I don't believe that FFV13 is comparable to H3 Recon.

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#16 Couth_
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They are both spin offs. Bungie themselves called recon an expansion. no one ever called Versus an expansion
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#17 Krigon
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Both are Spin-offs.

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#18 rolo107
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna say that you're wrong.SolidTy

I don't actually believe that FFXIII:V and H3 arn't full games, I'm just pointing out how stupid people sound when saying Recon cannot be compared to full games and is just an expansion pack.

I don't believe that FFV13 is comparable to H3 Recon.

He's not comparing them in any logical way, he's just pointing out the double standards fanboys have. Particularly over the Halo 3: Recon matter.

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#19 black_tempest
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Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connected
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#20 SOedipus
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Now that Halo 3: Recon is an expansion pack and cannot be compared to a "stand alone" game, I'm going to go as far to say FFXIII: Versus is the exact same, a FFXIII expansion pack and cannot be compared to full games.Utensilman

Yea but it's been sold at retailers and you don't need Halo 3 to run it.

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#21 Krigon
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Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connectedblack_tempest

SE has called Versus a spin-off. When the devs of the game call it a spin-off, then guess what? It is a spin-off.

Same with Bungie calling H:Recon an expansion.

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#22 gamefreakomega
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Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connectedblack_tempest

You're fighting a losing battle.

Believe me, I've had the discussion enough times to know that no one will believe you.

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#23 black_tempest
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[QUOTE="black_tempest"]Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connectedKrigon

SE has called Versus a spin-off. When the devs of the game call it a spin-off, then guess what? It is a spin-off.

Same with Bungie calling H:Recon an expansion.

Link?

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#24 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna say that you're wrong.rolo107

I don't actually believe that FFXIII:V and H3 arn't full games, I'm just pointing out how stupid people sound when saying Recon cannot be compared to full games and is just an expansion pack.

I don't believe that FFV13 is comparable to H3 Recon.

He's not comparing them in any logical way, he's just pointing out the double standards fanboys have. Particularly over the Halo 3: Recon matter.

thank you!

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#25 Krigon
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[QUOTE="Krigon"]

[QUOTE="black_tempest"]Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connectedblack_tempest

SE has called Versus a spin-off. When the devs of the game call it a spin-off, then guess what? It is a spin-off.

Same with Bungie calling H:Recon an expansion.

Link?

No. Go and find them yourself.

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#26 sargentbotk
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How is FFV XIII an expansion? lol...

Both games are spin-offs. Don't like it? Too bad for you.

Still doesn't mean both won't be great. When someone points out that FF Versus XIII is a spin-off, the crazed up fanboys go mad, and I have no idea why.

I also haven't seen anyone denying the fact that Halo: Recon is a spin-off or expansion.

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#27 gamefreakomega
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How is FFV XIII an expansion? lol...

Both games are spin-offs. Don't like it? Too bad for you.

Still doesn't mean both won't be great. When someone points out that FF Versus XIII is a spin-off, the crazed up fanboys go mad, and I have no idea why.

I also haven't seen anyone denying the fact that Halo: Recon is a spin-off or expansion.

sargentbotk

People go crazy because 99% of the time someone calls it a spin-off, they're using it as a negative.

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#28 superjim42
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whoever said this nonsense is just talking crap.

halo 3 recon IS an expansion theres no other way around it. just like how many games previously have recieved expansions packs.

FFvs13 IS a FULL GAME no other way around it. it is not carrying on the story from ff13 it is not adding to it either. its a completely different game set in the same universe!

i dont see whats so hard to understand. jeeeeez

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"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

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#30 PUG_NASTY
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versus is a stand alone title...its being made at THE SAME TIME as 13...it is its own game and has nothing to do with 13....just stop....X-2 was a spin off...versus can not be compared to X-2....V13 could be called FF14 and you would never know the difference....its not an expansion nor is it really a spin off...they are just two games with 13 in the title.
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#31 superjim42
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"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

FragTycoon

this!

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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

superjim42

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

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#33 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

FF_Halofan

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

whether it is standalone or not its still an expansion

sigh :roll:

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#34 lawlessx
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why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

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#35 superjim42
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why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

lawlessx

wrong! ffvs13 is not a spin-off its a sequel/alternate story to the ff13 universe. the link is provided few posts above this :roll:

halo 3 IS a expansion

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#36 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

superjim42

wrong! ffvs13 is not a spin-off its a sequel/alternate story to the ff13 universe. the link is provided few posts above this :roll:

halo 3 IS a expansion

so it being an alternate story of FF13's story doesnt make it a spinoff?

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#37 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

FF_Halofan

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

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#38 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="FF_Halofan"][QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

superjim42

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

whether it is standalone or not its still an expansion

sigh :roll:

as far as i see it, both games are "stand alone" and "expanding" their game's universes. So how are they different?

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#39 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

superjim42

wrong! ffvs13 is not a spin-off its a sequel/alternate story to the ff13 universe. the link is provided few posts above this :roll:

halo 3 IS a expansion

You say it like its a bad thing

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#40 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

lawlessx

wrong! ffvs13 is not a spin-off its a sequel/alternate story to the ff13 universe. the link is provided few posts above this :roll:

halo 3 IS a expansion

so it being an alternate story of FF13's story doesnt make it a spinoff?

nope cos its an entirely different story set in the same universe. it runs parralel to the ff13 game.

technicaly neither is a 'main' game. theres just two stories to be told here.

same with agito 13 for the psp its not really a sequel again just another story to be told.

think of the tales series, all share a similar universe but just different stories

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#41 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

why on earth is this even up for debate? both games are spin off's of the series they are based on(final fantasy and halo).

only reason why you now see people calling Vesus a "expansion" is because cows tried to use it as a way to bash halo3 recon not to long ago.

-DrRobotnik-

wrong! ffvs13 is not a spin-off its a sequel/alternate story to the ff13 universe. the link is provided few posts above this :roll:

halo 3 IS a expansion

You say it like its a bad thing

sorry i dont mean to say it like that. im just statin facts here. it is an expansion simple as. nothing wrong with it.

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#42 kage_53
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Versus XIII isn't an expansion pack. Its its own game. Halo 3: Recon is just an expansion.
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#43 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FF_Halofan"][QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

Utensilman

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

whether it is standalone or not its still an expansion

sigh :roll:

as far as i see it, both games are "stand alone" and "expanding" their game's universes. So how are they different?

how is ffvs13 expanding on what ff13 is doing? sigh :roll:

its just another story to be told in the same universe. simple

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#44 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"][QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FF_Halofan"][QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

"What is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a standalone, disc-based campaign expansion to Halo 3. It will be available at fine retailers around the globe in Fall of 2009. "

Link

cant find a FFXIIIv link other then this.

superjim42

this!

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more in a sense of expanding on the halo universe. it is much different from traditional halo games and is, well, you know, standalone.

whether it is standalone or not its still an expansion

sigh :roll:

as far as i see it, both games are "stand alone" and "expanding" their game's universes. So how are they different?

how is ffvs13 expanding on what ff13 is doing? sigh :roll:

its just another story to be told in the same universe. simple

that is exactly what Recon is.......

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#45 superjim42
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no halo recon has been said to be some sort of prequel and has been said to be an expansion by the devs it self :roll:
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#46 -DrRobotnik-
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that is exactly what Recon is.......

Utensilman

Its the same story, youre just playing it through someone elses perspective.

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#47 Vandalvideo
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that is exactly what Recon is......Utensilman
Wrong. Recon is taking place on the same timeline as all the other Halos in the same world as all the other Halos. Versus is taking place on an entirely seperate world and it does not rely on 13 in any way, shape, or form. It is completely independant of 13, unlike Recon.
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#48 black_tempest
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[QUOTE="black_tempest"][QUOTE="Krigon"]

[QUOTE="black_tempest"]Versus is not a spin off. And it shouldn't be called an expansion because it is set in a different world, has a completely different battle system, and the stories aren't even connectedKrigon

SE has called Versus a spin-off. When the devs of the game call it a spin-off, then guess what? It is a spin-off.

Same with Bungie calling H:Recon an expansion.

Link?

No. Go and find them yourself.

Yeah, didn't think so, beacause you can't find one, because that was never said

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#49 dalavos
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whoever said this nonsense is just talking crap.

halo 3 recon IS an expansion theres no other way around it. just like how many games previously have recieved expansions packs.

FFvs13 IS a FULL GAME no other way around it. it is not carrying on the story from ff13 it is not adding to it either. its a completely different game set in the same universe!

i dont see whats so hard to understand. jeeeeez

superjim42

thanks, you just give the explanation that I had in mind, but I do not understand why some people can not understand something so simple to understand the only similarity between ff13 and ffv13 is that the two games are based on the new FABULA of crystals from square, but with different histories and different interpretations that the crystals have in their worlds, they do not have any other relationship between them unless by the FABULA of crystals that come in the two games, and ffv13 is a fuuuuullll game not a expansion

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#50 Blackbond
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Versus XIII isn't an expansion pack. Its its own game. Halo 3: Recon is just an expansion.kage_53

At least someone gets it. And for those who keep track PC Expansions are included in your Nerdman list catagory.