So is VF5 laggy on 360? This review says no. VF5 360 best version confirmed

"Our primary concern was lag. Thankfully developer SEGA-AM2 has done a great job here. We set up ranked and player matches on XBL across a variety of stages and experienced zero lag. That's right - zero lag. This may differ depending on your connection and who you're playing, but early indications are extremely positive."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/xbox360/virtua_fighter_5/review.html

So there you are VF5 is playable online for the haters out there. It is definately worth the purchase.

it changes when you play with other people, they probably played in the same room with 1000MB connection....not every1 has that so i say it WILL lagmingo123

Any game can lag if you play people with bad connections. The game should have an option to search for those with the best connection.

it changes when you play with other people, they probably played in the same room with 1000MB connection....not every1 has that so i say it WILL lagmingo123

[QUOTE="mingo123"]it changes when you play with other people, they probably played in the same room with 1000MB connection....not every1 has that so i say it WILL lagDeihmos

Any game can lag if you play people with bad connections. The game should have an option to search for those with the best connection.

VF5 cannot cheat the laws of physics - it has to have lag.actionquake

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k Ass for balls connection.

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k Ass for balls connection.

XD88FDB

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

[QUOTE="XD88FDB"]

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k Ass for balls connection.

too_much_eslim

I got Verizon Fios.

I dare my games to lag.

Come on Mutha **** Lag I dare you I double DARE you MUTHA *****!

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

Yellow_Rose

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XD88FDB"]

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k Ass for balls connection.

XD88FDB

I got Verizon Fios.

I dare my games to lag.

Come on Mutha **** Lag I dare you I double DARE you MUTHA *****!

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="XD88FDB"]

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k Ass for balls connection.

XD88FDB

I got Verizon Fios.

I dare my games to lag.

Come on Mutha **** Lag I dare you I double DARE you MUTHA *****!

gotta love pulp fiction

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Teken 6 will be annouced for 360 first then MGS4 after.

I mean they cant have all those dev dollars go to waste selling 100K to 300K on the PS3 alone ! :lol:

[QUOTE="actionquake"]VF5 cannot cheat the laws of physics - it has to have lag.too_much_eslim

You're not reading his reply correctly. Every online game game has lag. The question is how much. It always takes time to move the information over the internet. This is counted in miliseconds so with most games it doesn't really matter. But with this game a few frames can make the difference in connecting a blow or receiving one. I'd say sega as hidden the lag for it not to be noticed but its impossible to have the same exerience online as if when the person is on the same console. With shooters or racing games for example you can have the same experience, not with VF.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

no, it'll come right before MGS4

and i don't think the lag will be any worse than what DoA4 had.

"Our primary concern was lag. Thankfully developer SEGA-AM2 has done a great job here. We set up ranked and player matches on XBL across a variety of stages and experienced zero lag. That's right - zero lag. This may differ depending on your connection and who you're playing, but early indications are extremely positive."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/xbox360/virtua_fighter_5/review.html

So there you are VF5 is playable online for the haters out there. It is definately worth the purchase.

too_much_eslim

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="actionquake"]VF5 cannot cheat the laws of physics - it has to have lag.elcoholic

You're not reading his reply correctly. Every online game game has lag. The question is how much. It always takes time to move the information over the internet. This is counted in miliseconds so with most games it doesn't really matter. But with this game a few frames can make the difference in connecting a blow or receiving one. I'd say sega as hidden the lag for it not to be noticed but its impossible to have the same exerience online as if when the person is on the same console. With shooters or racing games for example you can have the same experience, not with VF.

It's splitting hairs here though as the previewers have stated no lag as effecting game play.

That is what counts not the technical obvious of online millisecond that we know is there.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

"Our primary concern was lag. Thankfully developer SEGA-AM2 has done a great job here. We set up ranked and player matches on XBL across a variety of stages and experienced zero lag. That's right - zero lag. This may differ depending on your connection and who you're playing, but early indications are extremely positive."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/xbox360/virtua_fighter_5/review.html

So there you are VF5 is playable online for the haters out there. It is definately worth the purchase.

Imallvol7

hopefully it'll be fine.

online with VF5 could last years.

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

too_much_eslim

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Have you ever played VF before? You do know that its the most inaccessible of the popular fighting game franchises? You do realize how tight the controls and fighting system are and how responsive the game is to your button pressing and timing? You do realize that no lag online is impossible? And that even imperceptible lag by you, the player, will still affect this game?

Do you recall when the developers of VF said the game would never be online?

Read through this LINK and you'll understand why:

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="actionquake"]VF5 cannot cheat the laws of physics - it has to have lag.elcoholic

You're not reading his reply correctly. Every online game game has lag. The question is how much. It always takes time to move the information over the internet. This is counted in miliseconds so with most games it doesn't really matter. But with this game a few frames can make the difference in connecting a blow or receiving one. I'd say sega as hidden the lag for it not to be noticed but its impossible to have the same exerience online as if when the person is on the same console. With shooters or racing games for example you can have the same experience, not with VF.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Have you ever played VF before? You do know that its the most inaccessible of the popular fighting game franchises? You do realize how tight the controls and fighting system are and how responsive the game is to your button pressing and timing? You do realize that no lag online is impossible? And that even imperceptible lag by you, the player, will still affect this game?

Do you recall when the developers of VF said the game would never be online?

Read through this LINK and you'll understand why:

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

TheDarkDisciple

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

and i don't think the lag will be any worse than what DoA4 had.

Is this really that hard to understand? DoA is not a "tight" fighter. The window for executing commands is a lot bigger in DoA compared to that of VF, hell even Tekken.

Does anyone here even play fighting games?

Hate the connection not the game.

Any game will lag if you have a 56k $@# for balls connection.

XD88FDB

I have a slow DSL connection and it'll likely lag. :(

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Have you ever played VF before? You do know that its the most inaccessible of the popular fighting game franchises? You do realize how tight the controls and fighting system are and how responsive the game is to your button pressing and timing? You do realize that no lag online is impossible? And that even imperceptible lag by you, the player, will still affect this game?

Do you recall when the developers of VF said the game would never be online?

Read through this LINK and you'll understand why:

Dude, who CARES if it's not for casuals? Do you only play games made for casuals? VF5 will be sensational online if the lag is non-existant. The less casuals the better.

And the developers of VF said what they said to move their product. They later said they rushed the PS3 version. Now what?

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

and i don't think the lag will be any worse than what DoA4 had.

Is this really that hard to understand? DoA is not a "tight" fighter. The window for executing commands is a lot bigger in DoA compared to that of VF, hell even Tekken.

Does anyone here even play fighting games?

So now Sega must be lying about their ability to do this game right...and apparenly so are the authors of this article. Tell us more Nostradamus. Since you seem to know more than Sega and people who have played the game. :|

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

Dreams-Visions

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Have you ever played VF before? You do know that its the most inaccessible of the popular fighting game franchises? You do realize how tight the controls and fighting system are and how responsive the game is to your button pressing and timing? You do realize that no lag online is impossible? And that even imperceptible lag by you, the player, will still affect this game?

Do you recall when the developers of VF said the game would never be online?

Read through this LINK and you'll understand why:

Dude, who CARES if it's not for casuals? Do you only play games made for casuals? VF5 will be sensational online if the lag is non-existant. The less casuals the better.

I will say this again: YOU HAVE A READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM.

- I mentioned that the game is not for casuals to enfore my point of how tight the controls in VF are and how responsive and sensitive the game is. Compare this to DoA. You have a significant longer amount of time to input your moves in that game for them to still register and connect. In VF, the game is not like this. Chaining moves and countering essentially comes down to single frames in VF. If its not precise, the game loses its flow, and the reason for playing it (the tight and responsive control), is gone. It is because of this tightness that VF is not for casuals, because button mashing gets you nowhere in this game. I couldn't care less if casuals play VF or what games are for casuals.

- The game will suffer, even if it has no apparent lag, because there will still be lag that you cannot perceive with your eyes, but you will notice when you input moves and they do not register.

- again, "non-existent lag" is impossible.

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

Dreams-Visions

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

and i don't think the lag will be any worse than what DoA4 had.

Is this really that hard to understand? DoA is not a "tight" fighter. The window for executing commands is a lot bigger in DoA compared to that of VF, hell even Tekken.

Does anyone here even play fighting games?

So now Sega must be lying about their ability to do this game right...and apparenly so are the authors of this article. Tell us more Nostradamus. Since you seem to know more than Sega and people who have played the game. :|

I have said nothing that a regular VF player would disagree with.

What don't you understand? It doesn't matter how good the programmers are. Its science. You can't create an online game with zero lag. It does not work.

This goes back to the other thread (to which you never replied) where you are in over your head and think I'm here just bashing a game for no reason.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

Have you ever played VF before? You do know that its the most inaccessible of the popular fighting game franchises? You do realize how tight the controls and fighting system are and how responsive the game is to your button pressing and timing? You do realize that no lag online is impossible? And that even imperceptible lag by you, the player, will still affect this game?

Do you recall when the developers of VF said the game would never be online?

Read through this LINK and you'll understand why:

Dude, who CARES if it's not for casuals? Do you only play games made for casuals? VF5 will be sensational online if the lag is non-existant. The less casuals the better.

I will say this again: YOU HAVE A READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM.

- I mentioned that the game is not for casuals to enfore my point of how tight the controls in VF are and how responsive and sensitive the game is. Compare this to DoA. You have a significant longer amount of time to input your moves in that game for them to still register and connect. In VF, the game is not like this. Chaining moves and countering essentially comes down to single frames in VF. If its not precise, the game loses its flow, and the reason for playing it (the tight and responsive control), is gone. It is because of this tightness that VF is not for casuals, because button mashing gets you nowhere in this game. I couldn't care less if casuals play VF or what games are for casuals.

- The game will suffer, even if it has no apparent lag, because there will still be lag that you cannot perceive with your eyes, but you will notice when you input moves and they do not register.

- again, "non-existent lag" is impossible.

I know man. I don't know what the TC is smoking. VC is the fighting genre king. it is not for the usual lagfest casuals on xboxlive. And every and any game has lag. It might not always be aparent but with xboxlives player hosting it will always be there and give one person an advantage.

I have a good connection and so do most of my freinds. Yet i have even experianced lag playing games as simple as super puzzle fighter.

Lag will always be there. Games like VF really can only be settled as to whom is the best in the arcade.

And the developers of VF said what they said to move their product.

Dreams-Visions

Lol, what? No, they said that because they wanted their game to remain true to form. VF with unresponsive controls would be pointless and just another fighter. Developers of Tekken said the same thing during last gen.

They've included online now to appeal to reviewers and the mass gaming public in general. In other words, they did it to be competitive in terms of features with other games like DoA. They did it to "move their product" and increase sales.

it changes when you play with other people, they probably played in the same room with 1000MB connection....not every1 has that so i say it WILL lagmingo123

the game is going to lag if your playing with a **** 56k connection..
most games have lag, but very little if you have a decent connection, if they properly set it up your ping should be low enough to experiance very little inpercieveable lag that will not cause any problems at all.

heh, there is no such thing as zero lag, don't kid yourselves.

Still is great to hear that VF5 is working well online.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]NavigatorsGhost

Dude, who CARES if it's not for casuals? Do you only play games made for casuals? VF5 will be sensational online if the lag is non-existant. The less casuals the better.

I will say this again: YOU HAVE A READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM.

- I mentioned that the game is not for casuals to enfore my point of how tight the controls in VF are and how responsive and sensitive the game is. Compare this to DoA. You have a significant longer amount of time to input your moves in that game for them to still register and connect. In VF, the game is not like this. Chaining moves and countering essentially comes down to single frames in VF. If its not precise, the game loses its flow, and the reason for playing it (the tight and responsive control), is gone. It is because of this tightness that VF is not for casuals, because button mashing gets you nowhere in this game. I couldn't care less if casuals play VF or what games are for casuals.

- The game will suffer, even if it has no apparent lag, because there will still be lag that you cannot perceive with your eyes, but you will notice when you input moves and they do not register.

- again, "non-existent lag" is impossible.

Dude, I understand what you are trying to say but "Blah Blah BLAH BLAH BLAH!"!

Really! I am a Virtua Fighter fan from back when arcades ruled all, and played VF2 on my Sega Saturn (which I still have) religiously. That said WHO CARES about all this frames crap. The game is great, if it plays decently online, it will be amazing. If not, it is not like you don't have the option to play face to face. End of the day, you have options, so Ps3 looses again.

PS.

You still can play VF by button mashing. I know. Back on VF2 days, I thought I was hot sh*t playing Pai. I went against a button masher playing Jacky and got owned. I hated it so much, but I figured out my problem, went back to training, and solved the problem. Yeah, you won't get far button mashing against someone that is working hard to be the best, like I was. But against other casuals, you will have fun. That is all that matters.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

"Our primary concern was lag. Thankfully developer SEGA-AM2 has done a great job here. We set up ranked and player matches on XBL across a variety of stages and experienced zero lag. That's right - zero lag. This may differ depending on your connection and who you're playing, but early indications are extremely positive."

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/xbox360/virtua_fighter_5/review.html

So there you are VF5 is playable online for the haters out there. It is definately worth the purchase.

Imallvol7

I suggest you quit online gaming completely because your connection is obviously not up to par. there is also an option to play play with good connections.

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Who cares?

Good luck counting frames online.

Tekken 6.

/thread.

NavigatorsGhost

Obviously you care since you responded to this post.

And Tekken 6 will be announced for the 360. Count on it. ;)

of course, right after MGS4, right?

If you don't think online (and its non-existent lag, LMFAO) is going to affect how non-casuals play VF, then you're completely wrong.

and i don't think the lag will be any worse than what DoA4 had.

Is this really that hard to understand? DoA is not a "tight" fighter. The window for executing commands is a lot bigger in DoA compared to that of VF, hell even Tekken.

Does anyone here even play fighting games?

what i'm trying to say is, even for the amount of lag that DoA4 had (and it's not as bad as some people say it is), players can, and will adjust to it. If not, then fine, stick to the singleplayer and there shouldn't be a problem.