So isnt it pretty obvious that the PS4 is basically Xbox 360 with new hardware?

No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

And the 360 essentially a PC. Your point?

remains to be seen what ps + will carry and if online will still be free to play ... i rather just let sony tell me then think to hard about it 

Umm... It's standard PC architecture these days. Why does that necessarily have anything to do with the Xbox? As for the dual-camera, it's an obvious evolution. Humans have 3D vision because of two eyes, after all.

No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

mynamesdenvrmax

how the hell does this

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stereointegrity

Uh, it does as long as you ignore the stick placement, overall shape, start button, select button and guide button...they both have head phone jacks!

disclaimer: I really like the 360 controller just being a smart a$$! Ha!

terrible thread.

Also stop ignoring the existence of the PC when discussing hardware. PS4 is mostly utilizing traditional PC hardware with some extra tweaks added into the mix.

STOP IT

STOP IT

Chutebox

How many times you going to post this?

p.s. I like it! Ha!

PS4 is gonna steamroll the Kinectbox 2.0 :P 

Killzone, infamous, Bungie's Destiny, Diablo already and its not even e3 

i anticipated damage control butthurt threads such as this 

M$ better save up and buy the call o duty franchise for a trillion dollars cause thats the only way they can compete LOL

Yes the 360 had a share feature, a speaker int he controller, a touch screen and rear touch pad, with more than one decent first party game and a cloud service. Brilliant man, brilliant.

Actually, it's nothing at all like any XBox.  I fully anticipate a much brighter song to describe the system than:

"Halo Gears Forza, doo-dah, doo-dah

Halo Gears Forza all the doo-dah gen"

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how the hell does this

 

 

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T_0_D

Uh, it does as long as you ignore the stick placement, overall shape, start button, select button and guide button...they both have head phone jacks!

disclaimer: I really like the 360 controller just being a smart a$$! Ha!

Actually the 360 controller looks like the Dual Shock two with its face button placements, shoulder buttons and dual analogs. THere is no start button on the DS4 and the 360 controller does not have touch functions on the front or back or an LED sensor. Dreamcast had the 360 triggers first aswell.

How is PS4 trying to be like 360 when the Xbox has always been a bootleg wanna be Playstation. 

So its like the Xbox..but with actual Exclusives ? ok good to know :P

Its definitely true to a degree.

360 was all about a unified, streamlined experience built around social gaming that brought people together. Im pretty sure I heard all those words mentioned a few times during the Sony conference. I mean just look at the PS4 UI, definitely taking a lot of inspiration from the Xbox / Windows UI.

Sony may have reached this point eventually had Microsoft not existed in the games market, but whats funny is that the 360 has been doing a lot of what the PS4 will be since 2005, and they got slated for it a lot (cows whining on how features are useless, its all about games blah blah blah)

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stereointegrity

Its more the grip shape. Not really copying the 360 controller, but being molded to fit the hand a lot better like the 360 controller was.

Well the PS4 will actually have games, so the Xbox 360 it is not.

how the hell does this

 

 

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stereointegrity

how the hell does this

 

 

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stereointegrity

Next gen will suck.

Long live the NES- PS2 era.

Its definitely true to a degree.

360 was all about a unifie,d streamlined experience built around social gaming that brought people together. Im pretty sure I heard all those works mentioned a few times during the Sony conference. I mean just look at the PS4 UI, definitely taking a lot of inspiration from the Xbox / Windows UI.

I mean sure Sony may have reached this point eventually had Microsoft not existed in the games market, but whats funny is that the 360 has been doing a lot of what the PS4 will be since 2005, and they got slated for it a lot (cows whining on how features are useless, its all about games blah blah blah)

RR360DD

Except features pretty much *ARE* useless. I honestly don't care about the stuff that PS4 introduced, like being able to "share" your videos, or jump into a friends game in real time. I mean it's impressive and shows how integrated Sony's PS4 is going to be. I'm sure they looked at anything that XBOX Live had that PS3 didn't, and instead of just "matching" it, clearly they set out to completely destroy that. But I think Sony had pretty much showed everything possible that could be useful, and then added even more stuff that to me at least, is not useful at all. I honestly cant imagine MS coming back with anything else that isn't a "gimmick". The one thing I did like about the PS4 is the secondary/custom processor for background/standby processes, as well as being able to save your game at any point,and then INSTANTLY resume when you boot back up. That sounds pretty sweet. 

About the only "features" I really care about, are Netflix and Hulu+ - and it's pretty much a given that those are going to be there.

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Its definitely true to a degree.

360 was all about a unifie,d streamlined experience built around social gaming that brought people together. Im pretty sure I heard all those works mentioned a few times during the Sony conference. I mean just look at the PS4 UI, definitely taking a lot of inspiration from the Xbox / Windows UI.

I mean sure Sony may have reached this point eventually had Microsoft not existed in the games market, but whats funny is that the 360 has been doing a lot of what the PS4 will be since 2005, and they got slated for it a lot (cows whining on how features are useless, its all about games blah blah blah)

2Chalupas

Except features pretty much *ARE* useless. I honestly don't care about the stuff that PS4 introduced, like being able to "share" your videos, or jump into a friends game in real time. I mean it's impressive and shows how integrated Sony's PS4 is going to be. I'm sure they looked at anything that XBOX Live had that PS3 didn't, and instead of just "matching" it, clearly they set out to completely destroy that. But I think Sony had pretty much showed everything possible that could be useful, and then added even more stuff that to me at least, is not useful at all. I honestly cant imagine MS coming back with anything else that isn't a "gimmick". The one thing I did like about the PS4 is the secondary/custom processor for background/standby processes, as well as being able to save your game at any point,and then INSTANTLY resume when you boot back up. That sounds pretty sweet. 

About the only "features" I really care about, are Netflix and Hulu+ - and it's pretty much a given that those are going to be there.

Yeah useless for you maybe. But not useless for everyone else. There are "social" features on the 360 that arent on the PS3 that I use pretty much daily. Microsoft have constantly innovated when it comes to their OS / Online with Sony playing catchup most of this gen. I don't think its accurate to think they'd just stop now, I'm sure they'll have a ton of new features for the new Xbox.

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No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

tormentos

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Cubs360

So basically you are saying that the DS4 is a better version of the previous DS controllers? The 360 controller is not big enough for my hands which are like NBA players since I am really tall. 360 controller has an akward shape whih makes it difficult to grip roperly.

The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.mynamesdenvrmax

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No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

delta3074

Um what tradtional hardware? It is similar to PC architecture which has been around long before their was an Xbox. Sony designed the PS4 in mind with what developers asked them to as evident by those who spoke at the conference. Either way Sony is a better gaming company than MS so that is all that matters.

How dare you question Sony after they included a pause feature on their console?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="tormentos"] So where does the xbox controller has the touch pad,share button,option button,Blu light to be register by the camera and analogues symmetrically fixed.? BlueVigor

Um what tradtional hardware? It is similar to PC architecture which has been around long before their was an Xbox. Sony designed the PS4 in mind with what developers asked them to as evident by those who spoke at the conference. Either way Sony is a better gaming company than MS so that is all that matters.

No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

mynamesdenvrmax

I detect massive levels of Jelly and Butthurt in this thread :cool:

No.

just with much more awesome games and real exculsives .... and the gamepad .. God it's magical .. I think i am in love :P .

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how the hell does this

 

 

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BlueVigor

Uh, it does as long as you ignore the stick placement, overall shape, start button, select button and guide button...they both have head phone jacks!

disclaimer: I really like the 360 controller just being a smart a$$! Ha!

Actually the 360 controller looks like the Dual Shock two with its face button placements, shoulder buttons and dual analogs. THere is no start button on the DS4 and the 360 controller does not have touch functions on the front or back or an LED sensor. Dreamcast had the 360 triggers first aswell.

So do you think that MS is going to put in a touch pad on the Xbox 720 controller too? :lol:

And the 360 essentially a PC. Your point?

Zophar87

A very, very bad PC.

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And the 360 essentially a PC. Your point?

Primordialous

A very, very bad PC.

Yeah sure and the PS4 is a mid range PC. :lol:

Terrible thread. I'm going to assume your a Xbox fanboy and this is your sad attempt to bash the PS4.