so many fake 1080P, but only bungie admit

B3D reveal so many fake 1080P

halo3 640P

cod4 600P on both consoles.

ninja gaiden sigma fake 1080P

GT5fake 1080p

recently they discovery timeshift , vf5 no AA on ps3

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=43330&page=30

with so many fake 1080p , only bungie admit , so I respect bungie in terms of honesty.

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

what a stupid answer:D

can you explain to me why the teh BD on ps3 present so many fake 1080P, like gt5, NG SIGMA???????

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

You made that up.:|

Unless your being sarcastic that is.

If they can get more system resources freed up and my eyes can't tell the difference then I'm all for it.

People that worry about this are the kind of people that use the term "TRUE HD" and believe me you don't want to get caught associating with that crowd.

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

dude, I tell you the truth.

you don't need to upgrade your PC anymore , you only need to add a blueray player on your PC, then all your pc games will be true 1080P.:P

Bungie didn't admit that out of the goodness of their hearts, in the interest of full disclosure, they did it when prodded by enough people that they couldn't ignore it anymore.

Don't hold them up as some kind of noblemen because they admitted to lying about a games resolution.

VF5 looks excellent on the PS3. The character models are completely free of jaggies. Timeshift looks fine too. Find something else to complain about, like the Wii being technologically limited.

true, I'm also in favor of higher fidelity over higher resolution & framerate. I wouldn't mind 480p 30fps with motion blur + advanced HDR + advanced lighting & shadows + loads of post processing effects.

Bungie didn't admit that out of the goodness of their hearts, in the interest of full disclosure, they did it when prodded by enough people that they couldn't ignore it anymore.

Don't hold them up as some kind of noblemen because they admitted to lying about a games resolution.

VF5 looks excellent on the PS3. The character models are completely free of jaggies. Timeshift looks fine too. Find something else to complain about, like the Wii being technologically limited.

excelR83

that's you called ps3 vf5 free of jaggies?

They really just gave in.

But in saying that, no other company has freely admitted not reaching 720p.

Resolution is nowhere near the most important thing.

The HVX200 is an HD camera that actually records using three 960x540 pixel chips. It might not be quite as sharp as some other HD cameras, but it looks better because it has better compression than the other cameras. It has better color, and it records its data at a higher bit-rate.

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

these are games we are talking about, not movies. they render in rel time. you dont need more disk space to render something in a higher res, you need more space if you want to save it.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Bungie didn't admit that out of the goodness of their hearts, in the interest of full disclosure, they did it when prodded by enough people that they couldn't ignore it anymore.

Don't hold them up as some kind of noblemen because they admitted to lying about a games resolution.

VF5 looks excellent on the PS3. The character models are completely free of jaggies. Timeshift looks fine too. Find something else to complain about, like the Wii being technologically limited.

jrpgliker

that's you called ps3 vf5 free of jaggies?

owned.

Um how is this a reliable soure im just curious? And according to this forum Uncharted is the first console game to do true

720p, HDR and 4xFSAA on a console. How does anyone know this to be true ? This is just a forum.

Um how is this a reliable soure im just curious? And according to this forum Uncharted is the first console game to do true

720p, HDR and 4xFSAA on a console. How does anyone know this to be true ? This is just a forum.

Polaris_choice

Because it's their career in life.

To count pixels dude.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Um how is this a reliable soure im just curious? And according to this forum Uncharted is the first console game to do true

720p, HDR and 4xFSAA on a console. How does anyone know this to be true ? This is just a forum.

FrozenLiquid

Because it's their career in life.

To count pixels dude.

no true 1080p games on ps3 and xb360. they all upscaled.

because ps3 and xb360 only have 512mb memory space, they can't handle true 1080p.

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

It's obvious that the 360 and PS3 can't support the graphical fidelity that we as gamers have come to expect. So instead they're making games at lower resolutions and letting the hardware upscale the image.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

zero_snake99

Because it's their career in life.

To count pixels dude.

well, I believe b3d, bcause I heard john carmatk is also a member of this forum.

lol sine when gaiden and gt5 fake .. no proof, and you don't know the true resolution ... go count pixels and i might trust you

... and only the 360 limits the developpement with DVDs ... on blue ray, we won't see so many fakes

lol sine when gaiden and gt5 fake .. no proof, and you don't know the true resolution ... go count pixels and i might trust you

... and only the 360 limits the developpement with DVDs ... on blue ray, we won't see so many fakes

waza000

now I know why sony always lie , cause cows know nothing about computer hardware:D

it's the memory space , not disk space hold back the game resolution.

PS: regard gt5p fake 1080p

the Same person on B3D who prove halo3 is not native 1080p

GT5 Prologue works in 1280x1080 and uses PS3 upscaling trick - by repeating some pixels in anamorphic picture to 1920x1080. So 50% upscale.(It's actually less than GT HD's 1440x1080)

1280x1080 and 2xAA
1280x720 and 4xAA
Confirmed by the same guy from Halo 3 resolution discovery (Quaz51).
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread...=43330&page=24

"GT5 prologue demo is 1280x1080p (yamauchi know than in car game the vertical resolution is the most important for the visibility) but with MSAA 2x now ! it's a very good Compromise
they also very improved the display of grills and electric wires and aliasing problems (compare electric wires in GT-HD and in this demo, it's big big gap), the texture filtering is very clean and the HDR ligthing is awesome! All this in 60fps with 16 photorealistics cars, it's impressive the show room and the pit/garage is full 1920x1080 no AA"

Hey, it looks like sheep have an advantage:

Whenever they play a game, they already know that it is not HD. They don't have to be fooled about it :P

Hey, it looks like sheep have an advantage:

Whenever they play a game, they already know that it is not HD. They don't have to be fooled about it :P

MetroidPrimePwn

I agree, and wii user don't have to pay extra money for fake hd games.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Bungie didn't admit that out of the goodness of their hearts, in the interest of full disclosure, they did it when prodded by enough people that they couldn't ignore it anymore.

Don't hold them up as some kind of noblemen because they admitted to lying about a games resolution.

VF5 looks excellent on the PS3. The character models are completely free of jaggies. Timeshift looks fine too. Find something else to complain about, like the Wii being technologically limited.

jrpgliker

that's you called ps3 vf5 free of jaggies?

instead of paying attention to some dude's crotch lets remeber that the 360 version is alot more fun because it has online play.

Being honest just shows weakness. Sony is win because they can keep a straight face when they lie.DaysAirlines

..yet another funny comment by daysairlines

Since when is Sigma "fake" 1080p?Chutebox

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

hywel69

pc resolutions not the same as HDTV resolutions

YEAH! This only proves my theory that Nintendo will save us from those HD robots!! They don't even CLAIM to be HD!!

Btw, I'm hermit, lemming, sheep, and former cow.

^AH, NOOOT!^

And just so this isn't 100% spam, I agree that Bungie is honest. Yeah, whatever.

If they can get more system resources freed up and my eyes can't tell the difference then I'm all for it.

People that worry about this are the kind of people that use the term "TRUE HD" and believe me you don't want to get caught associating with that crowd.

Riverwolf007

true hd is 1080p/24hz :) with Dolby digital True HD sound track it is where we are up to today :)

and it looks and sounds amazingdo not miss out!

the xbox 360 claims alot of games are 1080i/p My HDTV reads 1080 but I found out by connecting my computer via HDMI to my TV that if I set the resolution to 1280 x 768 my tv will read 1080. and on the ps3 you can actualy see the difference between 720p and 1080i the 360 it all looks the same I never tried 1080p because I don't own one. but at least bungie admit to it, but I still don't understand why they didn't put more effort on their graphic engine.WhyuStillAlive

sorry mate but your wrong you only have a 720p tv set so no matter what you put on it your tv will upscale or downscale to 720p, downscaler is better tho! i.e if you give 1080i source your tv will downscale it.

it is only your mind making you think it is much better when in fact it is the same picture but from a better source!

Bungie were less than graceful in their admittance.

As far as im concerted they are just as bad as the others.

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

wiiwillwiiwill

what a stupid answer:D

can you explain to me why the teh BD on ps3 present so many fake 1080P, like gt5, NG SIGMA???????

buh buh buh teh cell!111!11 and buh rey!1111!!!

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

holy krap dude. a dvd can hold hd images both in games AND video. They just don't do it in videos because of the size. but they can do it in game because of a lot of compression.

Bungie actually claimed because of the way the pixel lines were doubles up, they were actually giving 1280P from what i can remember.

Thats not quite gracefully admitting it.

this is obvious dvd cant hold HD images

and its 600p on both bc 360 cant actually do HD "least common denominator"

stupid 360 holding ps3 back lol

winner-ps3

Mass Effect says hi...

Bungie were less than graceful in their admittance.

As far as im concerted they are just as bad as the others.

skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Bungie were less than graceful in their admittance.

As far as im concerted they are just as bad as the others.

FrozenLiquid

Bungie havent commited a 'crime' like the kiddies in your example, they were just ungracious in this being exposed.

Hell admitting it is one thing, but taking a few punts at the people who exposed it is worse.

The reality is they all did it and shipped their games, and that puts them all on equal level.