So much for 3DS having ps3/360 like graphics...

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#1 lucky_star
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Its barely on par with the psp.

Source

PSP which is a "bit" older tech.

But hey, i fell for the techdemo hype too. :(

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#2 SolidTy
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I don't know why anyone thought that it would be such a massive graphics Jump. If you follow Nintendo, and how they operate, that's simply not how Nintendo runs things. Nintendo are very cost and price effective, and furthermore, you will notice a trend in SIMILAR graphics with their handhelds.

There are some small differences, as we are dealing with old consoles to newer handhelds, but it essentially breaks down like this :

GB - NES/SMS generational graphics ish

GBA - SNES/Genesis generational graphics ish

DS - N64/PSOne/Saturn generational graphics ish

3DS - Gamecube/PS2/Dreamcast/Xbox generational graphics ish

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Also, developers get more power and better graphics out of the 3DS if the developers DO NOT implement the 3D effects. So, that is something else to consider.

Of course, it's a neat handheld, and it appears to be coming at the $300 price point.

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#3 waltefmoney
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3DS is not even close to PS3/360, but it is superior to the PSP in every way possible.

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#4 lucky_star
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I don't know why anyone thought that it would be such a Jump. That's now how Nintendo does things, they are very cost and price effective, and furthermore, you will notice a trend in graphics with their handhelds.

There are some small differences but it essentially breaks down like this :

GB - NES

GBA - SNES

DS - N64

3DS - Gamecube


SolidTy

GB was no where near the level of NES graphics, GBA was pretty clos. DS, maybe mario 64 thats it. 3DS gc? Hell no.

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#6 soulitane
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Resident Evil looks better than both of those games based on screenshots.

Anyone who said the 3DS would reach the levels of the PS3/360 was delusional though.

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Especially with 3D that I'm assuming is standard.
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#7 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't know why anyone thought that it would be such a massive graphics Jump. If you follow Nintendo, and how they operate, that's simply not how Nintendo runs things. Nintendo are very cost and price effective, and furthermore, you will notice a trend in SIMILAR graphics with their handhelds.

There are some small differences, as we are dealing with old consoles to newer handhelds, but it essentially breaks down like this :

GB - NES/SMS generational graphicsish

GBA - SNES/Genesis generational graphics ish

DS - N64/PSOne/Saturn generational graphics ish

3DS - Gamecube/PS2/Dreamcast/Xbox generational graphics ish

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Also, developers get more power and better graphics out of the 3DS if the developers DO NOT implement the 3D effects. So, that is something else to consider.

Of course, it's a neat handheld, and it appears to be coming at the $300 price point.


lucky_star

GB was no where near the level of NES graphics, GBA was pretty clos. DS, maybe mario 64 thats it. 3DS gc? Hell no.

There was some differences as I noted, but that's how it breaks down. Either way, the 3DS isn't going to be on par with the PS360 graphics, and it never was going to. Nintendo is a smart company, they are giving us PSP+ish graphics 5 years after the PSP hit the scene, but the key is, this machine is an improvement over the DS, and has Nintendo properties.

Fans will eat it up, and it has a lot of hype, not to mention people are jazzed about 3D right now.

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#8 Hakkai007
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Actually the 3DS looks much better than the PSP.

Just look at this video

http://www.konami.jp/mgs_se/

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#9 Crystal-Rush
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I know your just trying to get two similar matching environmental screens so to make a reasonable comparison between the 3DS and PSP, but you chose the worst looking Revelations screen that is available. It's barely an accurate representation. Judging by the trailer and new screens Revelations looks a lot better than what your trying to garner in this thread.

Seeing as Revelations is a 1st cycle 3DS release, it looks amazing. Nothing on PSP (even the best looking games) touch the 3DS. And to add to my response, look at the new MGS 3D trailer.

EDIT>>>>>> didnt realize you were comparing Mercenaries. You do know there are other better looking 3DS games than Mercenaries. Looks like your trying to manipulate this thread in your favor.

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#11 Crystal-Rush
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Oh sorry i didn't realize this was Mercenaries. Capcom definitely need to work on this game more. Still the TC shouldn't have jumped to conclusions by comparing Mercenaries to the PSP and assuming that this is the best 3DS can produce. Clearly there are other 3DS games that look better than mercenaries
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all I know is that with the MegaMan legends 3 announcement as a 3ds exclusive I'm offiically pissed at Capcom, I've been waiting for it since the ps1, and now i have to buy a whole new system to get it? yeah I'm tapped out this generation I scrapped and scraped to together the money for all the systems this generation, I have no extra funds to get a 3ds....so yeah to hell with you capcom and by extension Nintendo but most of all ************** capcom I loved MML 1 and 2 and I've waited paitently buying your other MM games and now your gonna stiff me on a current gen hd mml3? ***************

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#13 ThePlothole
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Barely on par? Mercenaries clearly has all around sharper textures and more shadow detail (especially compared to GoW).

GB was no where near the level of NES graphics, GBA was pretty clos. DS, maybe mario 64 thats it. 3DS gc?

lucky_star

Game Boy Color was basically NES quality. Game Boy Advance was superior to the SNES.

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#14 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't know why anyone thought that it would be such a massive graphics Jump. If you follow Nintendo, and how they operate, that's simply not how Nintendo runs things. Nintendo are very cost and price effective, and furthermore, you will notice a trend in SIMILAR graphics with their handhelds.

There are some small differences, as we are dealing with old consoles to newer handhelds, but it essentially breaks down like this :

GB - NES/SMS generational graphicsish

GBA - SNES/Genesis generational graphics ish

DS - N64/PSOne/Saturn generational graphics ish

3DS - Gamecube/PS2/Dreamcast/Xbox generational graphics ish

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Also, developers get more power and better graphics out of the 3DS if the developers DO NOT implement the 3D effects. So, that is something else to consider.

Of course, it's a neat handheld, and it appears to be coming at the $300 price point.


SolidTy

GB was no where near the level of NES graphics, GBA was pretty clos. DS, maybe mario 64 thats it. 3DS gc? Hell no.

There was some differences as I noted, but that's how it breaks down. Either way, the 3DS isn't going to be on par with the PS360 graphics, and it never was going to. Nintendo is a smart company, they are giving us PSP+ish graphics 5 years after the PSP hit the scene, but the key is, this machine is an improvement over the DS, and has Nintendo properties.

Fans will eat it up, and it has a lot of hype, not to mention people are jazzed about 3D right now.

who said it was on part with the 360/ps3? I hear more of it being close to xbox/gamecube.

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#15 Malta_1980
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i didnt see most people saying 3DS will have PS3/360 like graphics... maybe a few fanboys but even those knew deep down that it was just wishful thinking.. However 3DS will offer better visuals compared to PSP which is its only 'non-Nintendo product' rival... cause 3DS will be also competing against the DS..(i do believe Nintendo / 3rd party devs will keep supporting the DS considering its huge install base)
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#16 110million
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Some of it looks about PSP level, other stuff better. I'm sure with 3D it will look fine.
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#17 mattuk69
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Whoever thought the 3DS would have PS3/Xbox graphics is a complete idiot and a graphics whore! There is a reason its called a portable its made for games on the move. Those RE5 pics are great for a portable and the specs the 3DS has.

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#19 The_Gaming_Baby
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People over hyped the hell out of this thing, as they always do. Of course it doesn't stand anywhere near the standards of the current gen consoles. It's a handheld for god's sake.

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#20 The_Gaming_Baby
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The 3DS is pretty much an Xbox1 and a GC in your HANDS. Now stop whining and take the awesome graphics as it is.Iantheone
It really isn't. The day it can play the Resident Evil remake at the same standards as the gamecube version won't come in the 3DS' lifespan
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#21 Kratos_OMEGA
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Shame the PSP ****** sucks. 3DS is the high-tech handheld peopel have been waiting for.

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#22 shutdown_202
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Only the rabbid were saying that, if we go by history and common sense, it was clearly going to be in the 6th gen ball park. You might have been confused when people said it can do techniques the 360/PS3 can (some shaders or w/e).

Anyway the games we've seen are first gen and they still look better than end gen PSP games. Thats natural and happens every gen. Games like Chaos Theory, NGB, Riddick, HL2 were comparable to 1st gen PS3/360 games and in some cases looked better (anyone remember all those Xbox/PS2/GC vs 360 graphics thread in 2005 :lol:. Same with Conker 64 on the N64 when compared to 1st gen Dreamcast games. As devs find better ways of using the hardware, graphics will improve naturally.

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#23 johny300
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Here you go TC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPCsFAmIxCM&feature=player_embedded
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#24 amaneuvering
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Anyone who seriously thought 3DS was going to come close to PS3 or Xbox 360 level graphics was delusional.

It looks slightly better than the PSP, around the original Xbox level I'd say with a couple of modern graphics techniques thrown in for good measure. It's only in SD but the graphics are true 3D so that makes up for that. Obviously I wouldn't complain if the system was even more powerful but in my opinion that is good enough to keep me happy with the systems fully 3D visuals.

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#25 ThePlothole
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It really isn't. The day it can play the Resident Evil remake at the same standards as the gamecube version won't come in the 3DS' lifespanThe_Gaming_Baby

REmake used prerendered backgrounds. Considering what Capcom has already managed in their full 3D. first generation 3DS titles, I'm positive the system could technically handle the aforementioned.

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#26 nintendoboy16
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Um, did you not read much earlier that the 3DS graphics was going to be roughly the same as the Gamecube's graphics?

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#27 Lto_thaG
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I can't believe people actually believed that.Remembers me about the Conduit.People thought this game would push graphics to the next level for Wii.

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#28 Silverbond
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No one said the 3DS would have PS3/360 graphics. :|

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#29 T3H_1337_N1NJ4
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Here you go TC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPCsFAmIxCM&feature=player_embeddedjohny300

I think this should pretty much blow the TC and every other nay sayer out of the water. For me it still looks in-between the Wii and Xbox 360 / PS3

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#30 skrat_01
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PSP has had years of development for it. 3DS not so much. So naturally wait and see.
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#31 racing1750
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3DS is not even close to PS3/360, but it is superior to the PSP in every way possible.

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Agreed. I don't think many on here believed it would surpass the 360 or PS3. The PSP was more realistic.
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#32 great1991
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you should have known that it was a lie about it being on par with the PS3/360
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#34 HavocV3
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wasn't it IGN who propagated those rumors:?

who honestly believed that:| if PS3/360 still costs 200-300 to manufacture. how in the hell could Nintendo make a handheld console that powerful for $249-$300

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#35 XenogearsMaster
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No one said the 3DS would have PS3/360 graphics. :|

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A lot of people did. It was ridiculous anyways. It doesn't look any better than the PSP. Hopefully, the PSP2 will have something more than this crap.
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#36 bbkkristian
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You seriously think that a handheld would have ps3 and 360 graphics? wow....
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#37 blacktorn
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I think 1 developer said that and he was obviously being over enthusiastic as Japanese developers can get,anyway looking at the spec's that were leaked a week ago it is pretty much on par with the gamecube technically however the 3ds has to render the image twice to get the 3d effect so it will probably look similar to gamecube game's but not quite as good but in 3d,like the psp isn't quite as good as the ps2 but near it.
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#38 SSJ_Nega
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Yeah, those graphics are pretty terrible, but I wasn't expecting insanely good graphics, besides, with the titles already announced it looks like it's gonna be an incredible system.

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#39 Cruse34
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TC you really tried hard to get the best 3DS pics possible right?

Well of course its not like PS3 graphics those would cost way to much to put on a handheld right now

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#40 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I think the graphics are rather impressive. The screenshots don't do the games justice, in the same way that KZ3 looks better in motion than in still-form.

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#41 Cherokee_Jack
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So we're continuing this little "360/PS3 graphics" fiction?

After E3, no one in their right mind thought the 3DS was on 360/PS3 level. It was obvious where the 3DS was at graphically, and none of what we saw yesterday contradicts that.

It seems like every time something is revealed about the 3DS, someone moves the goalposts and pretends to be disappointed.

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#42 shinrabanshou
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Anyone can post misleading shots to make things look bad. :/ 3DS games look better than the PSP. But given the PSP is like 6 years old I would be shocked if it didn't - especially at the price point.
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#43 LIONHEART-_-
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The resident evil sceenshot is good nonetheless 3DS is not even close graphically to PS3/XBOX360 :?

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[QUOTE="Iantheone"]The 3DS is pretty much an Xbox1 and a GC in your HANDS. Now stop whining and take the awesome graphics as it is.The_Gaming_Baby
It really isn't. The day it can play the Resident Evil remake at the same standards as the gamecube version won't come in the 3DS' lifespan

that really shouldnt be hard for the 3ds actually..lmaooooooo!!!
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#45 Rahnyc4
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The resident evil sceenshot is good nonetheless 3DS is not even close graphically to PS3/XBOX360 :?

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after playing fallout 3 on the ps3 then i would say these 3ds screens look similar to the ps3 version, jaggies and all..
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#46 bc1391
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I just watched the game reel and those screens aren't doing the game justice. Its not PS360 level but its damn good. :o. Looks much better than 90% of Wii games anyways.

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#47 ithilgore2006
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I thought we might have grown out of the "use bad screen shot of game to bash, use best screenshot of opposing game, be objective and unbiased" thing, but here we are.

Way to use a screenshot of an in-development launch title, on a small screened console, against the most advanced game on the PSP, that came out years after launch.

Now how about showing some 3DS games in motion?

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#48 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Metal Gear looks like a first gen 360 title, imo. The texture res is lower, but as far a geometry--it looks like a 360 game. I'd place the visuals between GC/Xbox and 360.

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#49 GulliversTravel
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Its about on par with a PS2, with environments that are probably smaller but with graphical effects thrown in.
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#50 rubedisky
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Now let's see what the psp 2 can do (that rhymes)! muhahhahahaha.... :P lmao.