so now that dark souls is on 360?

so now that dark souls will be on 360, are the devs gonna include a voice chat feature on it? or friends invite? demon's souls didnt have friends invite so u play with random players, any news about it? also what are you guys opinion about it if it have those features? I dont really mind the friend invite as long as its only for blue phantoms

Nope.TheMoreYouOwn

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.daledoback

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.daledoback

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

[QUOTE="daledoback"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.TheMoreYouOwn

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

[QUOTE="daledoback"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.TheMoreYouOwn

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="daledoback"]

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

Dead-Memories

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

DragonfireXZ95

Yeah but you could just invite someone to a voice chat

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] still, party chat will make things quite a bit easier to connect with friends; it was still possible to get into friends' worlds in demons' souls, just communication was required. TheEpicGoat

Yeah but you could just invite someone to a voice chat

What does either of that have to do with the 360?

What does either of that have to do with the 360?

Chutebox

Doesnt MS have a policy that every game must have the option of voice chat ?.

I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember reading something like that.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.daledoback

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

I'm not sure what you mean by "nub version". I'm assuming you mean Noob Version and if thats the case wouldn't having voice chat and friend invites make the game easier for the 360 users and defeating the purpose of Demon's Souls/ Dark Souls? If you do indeed mean Noob version then it sounds to me 360 will have the Noob friendly version IMO

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What does either of that have to do with the 360?

Snugenz

Doesnt MS have a policy that every game must have the option of voice chat ?.

I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember reading something like that.

If you suck at Dark Souls then Voice Chat won't change a thing when someone invades you.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

DragonfireXZ95

Does not matter the ps3 will be the better version. Still need to get DS

[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Didn't MW2 disable party chat? They might have just done it that way.DragonfireXZ95

Yeah but you could just invite someone to a voice chat

They did for a few MP gametypes. But party chat isn't the only option. There's also a normal one-on-one voice chat.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="daledoback"]

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

Dead-Memories

Devs already said Dark Souls is going to be the same as Demon's Souls was. No communication other than the emotes. No invitations.

They will most likely turn party chat off. Developers can do that...

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What does either of that have to do with the 360?

Chutebox

Doesnt MS have a policy that every game must have the option of voice chat ?.

I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember reading something like that.

[QUOTE="daledoback"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Nope.johnlennon28

Depends which console. On the 360, you can bet on that there will be voice chat, game invites, etc just like every other game on the system. Microsoft wouldn't even allow a game to be released without it. PS3 will be the nub version for sure.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Doesnt MS have a policy that every game must have the option of voice chat ?.

I could be wrong, but i vaguely remember reading something like that.

lawlessx

Link to back your claim?...specifically for "GAME INVITE" and "etc" being a requirement? (I believe I did read voice chat years back, so I'm not concerned with that claim, just the other two claims you made.)

I can tell you Sony's Demon's Souls was hard, this game will be much harder. I do know that this game does sport a new co op mode, but that will be in both versions. I also know Party chat was removed in the past on XBL for COD6:MW2. I can also tell you the game is only being released on PS3 in Japan, and Namco is porting the game over the the 360 for the West, which means in theory Dark Souls should be essentially the same game for both machines.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Oh, never heard this.SolidTy

Link...specifically for "GAME INVITE" and "etc"?

I can tell you Sony's Demon's Souls was hard, this game will be much harder.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] it's true..every MP game on the 360 must include voice chat,game invite,etclawlessx

Link to back your claim?...specifically for "GAME INVITE" and "etc" being a requirement? (I believe I did read voice chat years back, so I'm not concerned with that claim, just the other two claims you made.)

I can tell you Sony's Demon's Souls was hard, this game will be much harder. I do know that this game does sport a new co op mode, but that will be in both versions. I also know Party chat was removed in the past on XBL for COD6:MW2. I can also tell you the game is only being released on PS3 in Japan, and Namco is porting the game over the the 360 for the West, which means in theory Dark Souls should be essentially the same game for both machines.

Of course, I own a 360 (It's in my sig, not to mention I have a ton of GS friends here on XBL that I play with), I thought you owned a 360 LawlesX?

Anyways, back to the link to back your claim?

I'm merely asking for a link about the "GAME INVITE" and "Et cetera" requirements of XBL you spoke of...specifically the XBL mandate that requires 'Game Invites' and what 'Et Cetera' includes. My experience doesn't mean it's an XBL requirement, although it seems to be the case, I would like to see these mandates you speak of here :

"every MP game on the 360 must include game invite, etc".

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Link to back your claim?...specifically for "GAME INVITE" and "etc" being a requirement? (I believe I did read voice chat years back, so I'm not concerned with that claim, just the other two claims you made.)

I can tell you Sony's Demon's Souls was hard, this game will be much harder. I do know that this game does sport a new co op mode, but that will be in both versions. I also know Party chat was removed in the past on XBL for COD6:MW2. I can also tell you the game is only being released on PS3 in Japan, and Namco is porting the game over the the 360 for the West, which means in theory Dark Souls should be essentially the same game for both machines.

SolidTy

Of course, I own a 360 (It's in my sig, not to mention I have a ton of GS friends here on XBL that I play with), I thought you owned a 360 LaulesX?

Anyways, back to the link to back you claim?

I'm merely asking for a link about the "GAME INVITE" and "Et cetera" requirements of XBL you spoke of.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] I thought you own a 360 solidTy? Every 360 title that has muitiplayer always has game invite and voice chat...been so since XBL first started. lawlessx

Of course, I own a 360 (It's in my sig, not to mention I have a ton of GS friends here on XBL that I play with), I thought you owned a 360 LawlesX?

Anyways, back to the link to back your claim?

I'm merely asking for a link about the "GAME INVITE" and "Et cetera" requirements of XBL you spoke of...specifically the XBL mandate that requires 'Game Invites' and what 'Et Cetera' includes. My experience doesn't mean it's an XBL requirement, although it seems to be the case, I would like to see these mandates you speak of here :

"every MP game on the 360 must includegame invite,etc".

Oh, you don't have a link to back up what you claimed, that "game Invite" and "etc" must be required by XBL? However, all of us in SW should regardless make a choice to believe what you say or not...:?

My personal experience is that every game I played had game invites, but I wanted a link to see if this was truly required. Furthermore, besides voice chat which I read about long ago, I wanted to know what the ambiguious "Et cetera" mandates were.

The whole purpose of my thoughts is due to my experience with Demon's Souls, which had a very unique multiplayer component. Thost that actually played Demon's Souls would probably understand my line of thought. Furthermore, XBL mandates would be extremely interesting factoring in our experiences with Demon's Souls, and imagining what From Software has in place for Dark Souls, a PS3 exclusive in the East, however it's coming to the 360 the same day as the PS3 in the West.

As far as you not providing a link to your claims...ok, noted.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Of course, I own a 360 (It's in my sig, not to mention I have a ton of GS friends here on XBL that I play with), I thought you owned a 360 LawlesX?

Anyways, back to the link to back your claim?

I'm merely asking for a link about the "GAME INVITE" and "Et cetera" requirements of XBL you spoke of...specifically the XBL mandate that requires 'Game Invites' and what 'Et Cetera' includes. My experience doesn't mean it's an XBL requirement, although it seems to be the case, I would like to see these mandates you speak of here :

"every MP game on the 360 must includegame invite,etc".

SolidTy

Oh, you don't have a link to back up what you claimed, that "game Invite" and "etc" must be required by XBL? However, all of us in SW should regardless make a choice to believe what you say or not...:?

ok, noted.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Oh, you don't have a link to back up what you claimed, that "game Invite" and "etc" must be required by XBL? However, all of us in SW should regardless make a choice to believe what you say or not...:?

My personal experience is that every game I played had game invites, but I wanted a link to see if this was truly required. Furthermore, besides voice chat which I read about long ago, I wanted to know what the ambiguious "Et cetera" mandates were.

The whole purpose of my thoughts is due to my experience with Demon's Souls, which had a very unique multiplayer component. Thost that actually played Demon's Souls would probably understand my line of thought. Furthermore, XBL mandates would be extremely interesting factoring in our experiences with Demon's Souls, and imagining what From Software has in place for Dark Souls, a PS3 exclusive in the East, however it's coming to the 360 the same day as the PS3 in the West.

As far as you not providing a link to your claims...ok, noted.

SystemWarsUser

This is just a misunderstanding, since I'm not having a face to face conversation. I was not condescending at all...however, I was being direct. I wanted no more misunderstandings, a change of topic routine, nor a misdirection like asking about who has what machine. There is probably some lost context as well, for someone not aware of SW history, as you are brand new to System Wars with an account made yesterday.

I'm trying to get a straight answer and a link about XBL mandates, and I couldn't seem to get a link, as you can plainly see.

I can and I already have explained my personal Experience with XBL which falls in line with what has been claimed save for the "etc" aspect, but this line of thought has a lot to do with Dark Souls online MP, and what was previously experienced by those that played Sony's Demon's Souls and it's online MP.

This has nothing to do with my personal XBL experience, nor anyone else's XBL experience, common sense about XBL experience...this is about Dark Souls online MP, and getting a link about XBL mandates.

[QUOTE="Espereful"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]Oh, you don't have a link to back up what you claimed, that "game Invite" and "etc" must be required by XBL? However, all of us in SW should regardless make a choice to believe what you say or not...:?ok, noted.SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"] [QUOTE="Espereful"] whats with the condescending attitude... goodness... i think this might help you http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb975642.aspxEspereful

This is just a misunderstanding, since I'm not having a face to face conversation. I was not condescening at all...however, I was being direct. I wanted no more misunderstandings, a change of topic routine, nor a misdirection like asking about who has what machine. There is probably some lost context as well, for someone not aware of SW history.

I'm trying to get a straight answer and a link about XBL mandates, and I couldn't seem to get a link, as you can plainly see.

I can and I already have explained my personal Experience with XBL which falls in line with what has been claimed save for the "etc" aspect, but this line of thought has a lot to do with Dark Souls online MP, and what was previously experienced by those that played Sony's Demon's Souls and it's online MP.

This has nothing to do with my personal XBL experience, nor anyone else's XBL experience, common sense about XBL experience...this is about Dark Souls online MP, and getting a link about XBL mandates.

reading through the message sin this tread certainly give off that impression. regardless you still got a link in the end. besides, common sense should be on lawlex side considering every xbox 360 game has that features

Okay, common sense and personal experience with XBL will give you an indicator for "Game Invites" granted (as I already suggested in my answers above), but not "etc". That being said, this isn't about my personal experience or common sense, this is about XBL mandate specifics, as it pertains to Dark Souls MP. I'm trying to determine the changes to the Souls franchise MP. Thanks for the link, I'm still trying to figure out what the "etc" aspect of that post is with the link.

As I already covered, Demon's Souls had a very unique Multiplayer component, and I wanted specifics on what XBL mandates in particular...considering Dark Souls is coming. It's quite simple. Just to let you know, I have a Gamerscore of 100,000+ and I have two 360's. I have been an XBL GOLD member all generation. I also was an XBL member for XBOX and played many great games like Crimson Skies, Halo 2, Phantom Dust, Splinter Cell, Mech Assualt, Rainbow Six, etc...I'm only telling you this about me since you are Brand new to Gamespot.com, and in the future you will know a bit more about the posters you are meeting, in this case me. It also gives you a backround so you know I'm Credible and an ACTUAL XBL User, as opposed to those that are not credible at all. There is more details to be found in SW about a great many users, and now you learned a little bit more. For instance, some in this thread never played Demon's Souls (lackiing a PS3 or what have you), and maybe some here won't play Dark Souls. My inquiries have a pursuit in mind, but I need the right audience to make my point. The "Magic" of the previous Soul game would be lost with certain XBL mandates in place.

Also, I noticed you have had 75 posts, and created an account here at Gamespot.com yesterday, welcome to SW and GS Espereful. What is your XBL gamertag? Perhaps we can play Dark Souls together, if not some other fun XBL game. :)

Devs can remove party and chat from their games (like with MW2), so I don't doubt it will be the same here on 360. Don't know about invites, but I'm pretty sure they can remove that too. Its not that hard to get in a friend's game though with some cleverness, so I don't think it should matter (though I would love the ease it provides).

The whole purpose of my thoughts is due to my experience with Demon's Souls, which had a very unique multiplayer component. Thost that actually played Demon's Souls would probably understand my line of thought. Furthermore, XBL mandates would be extremely interesting factoring in our experiences with Demon's Souls, and imagining what From Software has in place for Dark Souls, a PS3 exclusive in the East, however it's coming to the 360 the same day as the PS3 in the West.

As far as you not providing a link to your claims...ok, noted.

SolidTy

I play and have played Demon's Souls and i'm not following tbh. If what you're getting at is the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, and that it wouldnt fit well with an invite system, then you're right it wouldnt, but Demon's Souls isnt being ported. Dark Souls is being ported and there's every possibility they've changed the system to include invites (unless some info was released to the contrary).

As for your attitude so far in this thread, that i really dont get...

I haven't played the game, but from what I've read and seen, those things (no chat, random players) lend well to Demon's Souls atmosphere. Similar to that new Journey PSN game.

Devs can remove party and chat from their games (like with MW2), so I don't doubt it will be the same here on 360. Don't know about invites, but I'm pretty sure they can remove that too. Its not that hard to get in a friend's game though with some cleverness, so I don't think it should matter (though I would love the ease it provides).

SPYDER0416

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Oh, you don't have a link to back up what you claimed, that "game Invite" and "etc" must be required by XBL? However, all of us in SW should regardless make a choice to believe what you say or not...:?

My personal experience is that every game I played had game invites, but I wanted a link to see if this was truly required. Furthermore, besides voice chat which I read about long ago, I wanted to know what the ambiguious "Et cetera" mandates were.

The whole purpose of my thoughts is due to my experience with Demon's Souls, which had a very unique multiplayer component. Thost that actually played Demon's Souls would probably understand my line of thought. Furthermore, XBL mandates would be extremely interesting factoring in our experiences with Demon's Souls, and imagining what From Software has in place for Dark Souls, a PS3 exclusive in the East, however it's coming to the 360 the same day as the PS3 in the West.

As far as you not providing a link to your claims...ok, noted.

Snugenz

I play and have played Demon's Souls and i'm not following tbh. If what you're getting at is the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, and that it wouldnt fit well with an invite system, then you're right it wouldnt, but Demon's Souls isnt being ported. Dark Souls is being ported and there's every possibility they've changed the system to include invites (unless some info was released to the contrary).

As for your attitude so far in this thread, that i really dont get...

Your attitude I don't get...? I already said I don't have any issues, but I'm surprised that questions and asking for links is considered an attitude by a new poster and Snugenz in System Wars, lol. There is no attitude, just questions. The only thing I saw was some claims with out links, that seem to be ignored in this thread in SW, but I see asked for in virtually every other thread in SW. It's a SW tradition, this isn't attitude, nor is it anything new. When someone makes a statement or claim, and are asked for a link to back up their claim, it falls on them to provide...basically how forums work, but especially how System Wars work. "etc" is still up for answers. The only reason I wanted a link was because this is a Dark Souls 360 thread, and it seems to me the perfect place to ask such questions.

Now, let's cover a few bases real quick.

We both know that Demon's Souls is a Sony owned IP and isn't coming to 360.

We both know that Dark Souls is a From Software IP and is indeed coming to the 360 in the West. Let's move on.

What I'm getting at is indeed the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, fully aware that they are different games, I'm trying to grasp how the new game's online will function, especially with whatever mandates are required from the developer.

You said, "If what you're getting at is the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, and that it wouldnt fit well with an invite system, then you're right it wouldnt..."

This is evident for users of XBL and players of Demon's Souls, which was entirely my point, but hard to discuss with people that have never played Demon's Souls the game. Dark Souls is being talked about a spiritual sequel to Demon's Souls, but it seems to me that it may be more different that people realize.

I know that there is every possibility that From Software has indeed changed the system considering Sony has no input in the design of this new game (Obviously, it's a different game). However, provided that indeed the game's MP and general game is different enough, that brings up the question on how close in similarity the two games are...and if there is room for a Demon's Souls 2.

Your attitude I don't get...? I already said I don't have any issues, but I'm surprised that questions and asking for links is considered an attitude by a new poster and Snugenz in System Wars, lol. There is no attitude, just questions. The only thing I saw was some claims with out links, that seem to be ignored in this thread in SW, but I see asked for in virtually every other thread in SW. It's a SW tradition, this isn't attitude, nor is it anything new. When someone makes a statement or claim, and are asked for a link to back up their claim, it falls on them to provide...basically how forums work, but especially how System Wars work. "etc" is still up for answers. The only reason I wanted a link was because this is a Dark Souls 360 thread, and it seems to me the perfect place to ask such questions.

Now, let's cover a few bases real quick.

We both know that Demon's Souls is a Sony owned IP and isn't coming to 360.

We both know that Dark Souls is a From Software IP and is indeed coming to the 360 in the West. Let's move on.

What I'm getting at is indeed the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, fully aware that they are different games, I'm trying to grasp how the new game's online will function, especially with whatever mandates are required from the developer.

You said, "If what you're getting at is the method used to summon/invade players in Demon's Souls, and that it wouldnt fit well with an invite system, then you're right it wouldnt..."

This is evident for users of XBL and players of Demon's Souls, which was entirely my point, but hard to discuss with people that have never played Demon's Souls the game. Dark Souls is being talked about a spiritual sequel to Demon's Souls, but it seems to me that it may be more different that people realize.

I know that there is every possibility that From Software has indeed changed the system considering Sony has no input in the design of this new game (Obviously, it's a different game). However, provided that indeed the game's MP and general game is different enough, that brings up the question on how close in similarity the two games are...and if there is room for a Demon's Souls 2.

SolidTy

First off i'm perfectly familiar with how things go down in SW, i'm also very familiar with your posting style and honestly, your early posts in this thread just came off as very hostile, which isnt usual from what i've seen of you over the years, which is why i asked what the deal was with the attitude.

As for the differences between the two games, well we already know of quite a few (Beacon fires instead of the Nexus, renewable elixirs instead of grasses .etc), i'm not even sure if there's gonna be a soul/body form mechanic to Dark Souls which was vital to the way the DS summoning/invasion stones worked.

At the end of the day, i cant wait for Dark Souls, and if it has invites and voice chat then even better, because as good as the Demon's Souls system was, voice chat and a reliable way to invite friends would only give players more options and more options is always better. Altough i will say that invasion should still be random (if its still in Dark Souls at all) because it adds to the adrenaline rush not know when or where you could be attacked, and having to invite a friend or queue up for someone to attack you would ruin that.

As for Demon's Souls 2, i dont see how Dark Souls would get in the way of that ever happening as they're not related, in narritive at least.

This game is not about friends , people will enter your game to eff you it's not a party.That's the fun of it.Put voice chat you spoil it.