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#1 True_Gamer_
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I wanna see a console doing this:

Since my other thread was locked here the proof of ETW's uber superiority:

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#2 mitu123
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Give consoles another gen or 2.:P

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#3 TheElfChild
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

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#4 True_Gamer_
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild

The one that is paying €65 a game? :lol:

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#5 dontshackzmii
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i love rts games on pc . thats one thing i don't like about consoles . I uninstalled empire total war. It got a bit boring after a while .plus the 15gb install on my 320gb drive was hurting.
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#6 Kimbo_Slyce
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...Ermmm I'm a 360/PC gamer and somehow I dont care regardless.

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#7 chaoz-king
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Looks cool I'm sure I'll never own a PC that will be able to play it at 60fps max settings though.
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#8 subrosian
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Give consoles another gen or 2.:P

mitu123
Thanks to the Wii, another generation or two might mean that consoles will be rivaling DS graphics ;) I kid, I kid... but it's scary.
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#9 TheElfChild
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[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I want to see a console owner who cares.

True_Gamer_

The one that is paying €65 a game? :lol:

I dunno about you, but I never spend more than $30 on a game.
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#10 Yandere
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I wonder why the soldiers are shining.

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#11 tagyhag
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild
I lol'd :D He's right, trying to control a Total War game with a console controller would be torture.
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#12 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild

The one that is paying €65 a game? :lol:

I dunno about you, but I never spend more than $30 on a game.

Its a € not $.
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#13 dmaximum
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If you want to impress me zoom in.

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#14 TheElfChild
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[QUOTE="TheElfChild"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] The one that is paying €65 a game? :lol:

True_Gamer_

I dunno about you, but I never spend more than $30 on a game.

Its a € not $.

And I'm not going to look up the exchange rate. The fact is, games depreciate in price very quickly, even when they're new. There's no reason EVER to pay full price for any game.

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#15 smithster118
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild

Indeed.

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#16 Kimbo_Slyce
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[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I want to see a console owner who cares.

tagyhag

I lol'd :D He's right, trying to control a Total War game with a console controller would be torture.

Using motion capturing (Project Natal) and voice scanning capabilities (End War was it?) might soon make playing RTS games on a console...fun. Dare I say it.

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#17 DPhunkT
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Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.
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#18 AnnoyedDragon
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild

If it was on 360 they would be using it as evidence they are more powerful than PS3, if it was PS3 they would be declaring it as being only possible because of Cell.

It is easy not to care when you don't have access, just like no console gamers wanted to play Crysis before Crysis 2 was announced cross platform.

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#19 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I want to see a console owner who cares.

Kimbo_Slyce

I lol'd :D He's right, trying to control a Total War game with a console controller would be torture.

Using motion capturing (Project Natal) and voice scanning capabilities (End War was it?) might soon make playing RTS games on a console...fun. Dare I say it.

It sounds good in theory, but End War failed in voice scanning, and I don't see the pointer working for Natal either, it would just be too slow.

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#20 Mr_Apple_Soup
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild

i care. its a shame my PC will never be able to handle this game

that's a lot of units on the screen

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#21 treedoor
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No, the PC also has the most AAAe, and AAe games of this gen by far :D

But no. Playing that game with a controller would be torture. The reason RTS games get low scores for consoles is because controllers suck for them.

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#22 blazer224
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If you want to impress me zoom in.

dmaximum

haha, that was funny:lol:

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#23 Kimbo_Slyce
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[QUOTE="Kimbo_Slyce"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] I lol'd :D He's right, trying to control a Total War game with a console controller would be torture.tagyhag

Using motion capturing (Project Natal) and voice scanning capabilities (End War was it?) might soon make playing RTS games on a console...fun. Dare I say it.

It sounds good in theory, but End War failed in voice scanning, and I don't see the pointer working for Natal either, it would just be too slow.

...ever heard of evolution? Project Natal was just an idea to hint what I was talking about. Motion capturing is the future of Gaming (maybe 3 generations from now). And besides, WHY THE HELL are you shooting down Project Natal when it isnt even out? Just because it looks gimmicky doenst mean that it nesscesarily wont work (though it probably wont :cry: ).

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#24 Kimbo_Slyce
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No, the PC also has the most AAAe, and AAe games of this gen by far :D

But no. Playing that game with a controller would be torture. The reason RTS games get low scores for consoles is because controllers suck for them.

treedoor

I thought these elitist PC gamers were becoming more original. Guess I was wrong :cry:

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Oh and that last sentance was totally true...

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#25 aliblabla2007
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Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.DPhunkT

Thirty-eight thousand actually, if you bothered to do the math. ;)

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#26 metalisticpain
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Give consoles another gen or 2.:P

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Thanks to the Wii, another generation or two might mean that consoles will be rivaling DS graphics ;) I kid, I kid... but it's scary.

You may have a point. I dont believe Sony and MS will put out a next gen console that pushes the power forward like they did this gen. They saw how much money nintendo is getting. Next gen i believe will see a slight advancement but nothing on this gen. So in a way the Wii has stalled the Graphic Race i think.
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#27 True_Gamer_
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Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.DPhunkT
You mean that DuneII clone?
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#28 Kimbo_Slyce
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[QUOTE="DPhunkT"]Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.aliblabla2007

Thirty-eight thousand actually, if you bothered to do the math. ;)

Somehow, I assume that he still doesnt care. And you know what? Neither do I. If they were all juggling eggs, then I would. But they're not!

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#29 DPhunkT
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="DPhunkT"]Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.Kimbo_Slyce

Thirty-eight thousand actually, if you bothered to do the math. ;)

Somehow, I assume that he still doesnt care. And you know what? Neither do I. If they were all juggling eggs, then I would. But they're not!

I admit, it is impressive. But at this time of my life PC gaming is something I can live without.
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#30 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="DPhunkT"]Meh, a couple thousand units on screen. Still not wow worthy. I'll wait til Starcraft II comes along.Kimbo_Slyce

Thirty-eight thousand actually, if you bothered to do the math. ;)

Somehow, I assume that he still doesnt care. And you know what? Neither do I. If they were all juggling eggs, then I would. But they're not!

:roll:

Certainly, you cared enough to post in this thread, respond to my post, and generalize PC gamers as being "elitist".

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#31 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Kimbo_Slyce"]Using motion capturing (Project Natal) and voice scanning capabilities (End War was it?) might soon make playing RTS games on a console...fun. Dare I say it.

Kimbo_Slyce

It sounds good in theory, but End War failed in voice scanning, and I don't see the pointer working for Natal either, it would just be too slow.

...ever heard of evolution? Project Natal was just an idea to hint what I was talking about. Motion capturing is the future of Gaming (maybe 3 generations from now). And besides, WHY THE HELL are you shooting down Project Natal when it isnt even out? Just because it looks gimmicky doenst mean that it nesscesarily wont work (though it probably wont :cry: ).

Nope I never heard of evolution, is that like a band or something? Ok, let's just say, to help you case, "3 generations from now" consoles come out with perfect motion capturing, now are you seriously telling me that you'll be able to control an RTS game with just your hands and voice? Do you know how quick you have to be with just the mouse (Not to mention hotkeys)? You'll have to have faster hands than Bruce Lee to do what PC users do with their mouses. XD
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#32 subrosian
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...ever heard of evolution? Project Natal was just an idea to hint what I was talking about. Motion capturing is the future of Gaming (maybe 3 generations from now). And besides, WHY THE HELL are you shooting down Project Natal when it isnt even out? Just because it looks gimmicky doenst mean that it nesscesarily wont work (though it probably wont :cry: ).Kimbo_Slyce
It's just math. You have an input device (mouse) with an infinite two-dimensional input plane (using a fast lift motion for planar reset) and hundreds, if not thousands, of times the precision of a joystick. Currently even the best motion-control systems are less precise than joysticks, and far less precise than mice. Now take a game type where fast, intuitive, and precise input can be game-breaking - the RTS - and tell me NATAL is going to work on consoles for RTS. - The situation only gets worse when you consider keyboards. I can bind dozens of commands to a keyboard, all accessible in less than two keystrokes, and all 100% precise. If I bind SHIFT + T to "scroll to home base" then every time I hit those keys it will happen. There's no room for guesswork, like there is in a motion control system, where each additional command makes the other commands more vague. Add in that "macro motion commands" are inherently unintuitive (what's the natural motion for "riflemen build barricade" or "gather vespene gas"? ) and the situation is just worse. - They really ought to just add keyboard and mouse support to console RTS games, given that every console on the market has USB ports, it really wouldn't be hard to do.
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#33 urdead18
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Technically impressive, but not visually pleasing IMO.

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This isn't impressive.
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#35 mythrol
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Who the heck ever says the PC only has Crysis??? It's a pretty well known fact that the PC has the best library of all. Stop looking for ownage where there is none TC.
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#36 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Kimbo_Slyce"]...ever heard of evolution? Project Natal was just an idea to hint what I was talking about. Motion capturing is the future of Gaming (maybe 3 generations from now). And besides, WHY THE HELL are you shooting down Project Natal when it isnt even out? Just because it looks gimmicky doenst mean that it nesscesarily wont work (though it probably wont :cry: ).subrosian
It's just math. You have an input device (mouse) with an infinite two-dimensional input plane (using a fast lift motion for planar reset) and hundreds, if not thousands, of times the precision of a joystick. Currently even the best motion-control systems are less precise than joysticks, and far less precise than mice. Now take a game type where fast, intuitive, and precise input can be game-breaking - the RTS - and tell me NATAL is going to work on consoles for RTS. - The situation only gets worse when you consider keyboards. I can bind dozens of commands to a keyboard, all accessible in less than two keystrokes, and all 100% precise. If I bind SHIFT + T to "scroll to home base" then every time I hit those keys it will happen. There's no room for guesswork, like there is in a motion control system, where each additional command makes the other commands more vague. Add in that "macro motion commands" are inherently unintuitive (what's the natural motion for "riflemen build barricade" or "gather vespene gas"? ) and the situation is just worse. - They really ought to just add keyboard and mouse support to console RTS games, given that every console on the market has USB ports, it really wouldn't be hard to do.

You pretty much said what I said, but only 10 times better :P
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#37 Kenfrot
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I don't recall anyone every saying that Crysis was the only game for PC. Am I missing something?
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#39 Dead-Memories
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I want to see a console owner who cares.

TheElfChild
How couldn't you care about Empire? It's arguably one of the biggest games in scope and ambition in all history.
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#40 nomorerts
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If those people had ridgid body physics aka ragdolls physics and each one was having collision detection happening and ur CPU could handle it at playable framerates then id be impressed, but none of those people have ragdolls not impressive at all. it's the same deal with dead rising has just as many zombies on screen but there's no ragdolls physics so it's unimpressive. You need a really powerful CPU to be able to handle tons of ragdolls happening at once. i could spawn more enemies on screen in doom3 but when you blow them up LOL ur framerate would go to zero because nobody cpu powerful enough to handle all the ragdolls having collision detection at once.
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#41 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I want to see a console owner who cares.

Dead-Memories
How couldn't you care about Empire? It's arguably one of the biggest games in scope and ambition in all history.

Empires suck....There's no chainsaws. :P
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#42 Danm_999
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I don't recall anyone every saying that Crysis was the only game for PC. Am I missing something?Kenfrot
It's a fairly common misconception. Like the 360 only has shooters, or the PS3 has no games, or the Wii is a fad.
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#43 nomorerts
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Before dead rising was released for xbox360 i assumed the game is gonna have ragdoll physics for all the zombies, i mean xbox360's a freaking tripplecore 3.2 ghz powerpc and my athlon 64 is only a single core i expected it kinda. but the game has no ragdolls lol it proves xbox360's cpu is weak. It also proves though cpu's cant even handle lots of people on screen with ragdolls. our hardware still sucks holding back software.
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#44 SionPT
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Consoles would run that and much more games if there were like PC, every week threres a new more powerfull hardware, every moth a new graphics card, etc etc

consoles are launch and pushed to the limit with the same hardware.

PC is cheating

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#45 Danm_999
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PC is cheating

SionPT

Interesting new approach.

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#46 enterawesome
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So what? The soldiers look crappily detailed anyway.
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#47 Gangstah-Fresh
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My iMac can't do that let alone consoles. What's the point of a high spec mac if I can't use it for games lol.
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#48 CAPGOD
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What a poor example of the superiority of PC gaming.

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#49 tagyhag
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So what? The soldiers look crappily detailed anyway.enterawesome

Er...Is that a joke?

Empire

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]So what? The soldiers look crappily detailed anyway.tagyhag

Er...Is that a joke?

Empire

And think about it... even if there's not much detail (which you just proved wrong) there's several thousand infantrymen streaked around the place in a typical battlefield. Even 2000+ Master Chief models from the original Halo would be fairly taxing, and these guys are considerably more detailed than any pre-2004 FPS model.