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#1 hakanakumono
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... accuse nintendo of not delivering anymore, right? Nintendo is producing two main Mario titles in one generation for the first time since the Snes. I'd say that's pretty impressive. What do you think? Do Metroid: M, Zelda Wii, and Mario Galaxy 2 put nintendo in the green now?

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#2 Dibdibdobdobo
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... accuse nintendo of not delivering anymore, right? Nintendo is producing two main Mario titles in one generation for the first time since the Snes. I'd say that's pretty impressive. What do you think? Do Metroid: M, Zelda Wii, and Mario Galaxy 2 put nintendo in the green now?

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No. Metroid alone does.
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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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It's a step in the right direction, but more work is needed. So not quite.
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#4 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

... accuse nintendo of not delivering anymore, right? Nintendo is producing two main Mario titles in one generation for the first time since the Snes. I'd say that's pretty impressive. What do you think? Do Metroid: M, Zelda Wii, and Mario Galaxy 2 put nintendo in the green now?

Dibdibdobdobo

No. Metroid alone does.

O_O; Yeah, 3rd person Metroid ...

I wish they'd make a Metroid side scroller for the DS, but I'm afraid they're holding back because they cant think of how to integrate the stylus into the game to a significant degree without breaking the gameplay.

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#5 hakanakumono
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It's a step in the right direction, but more work is needed. So not quite.Cherokee_Jack
What would you suggest?
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#6 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

... accuse nintendo of not delivering anymore, right? Nintendo is producing two main Mario titles in one generation for the first time since the Snes. I'd say that's pretty impressive. What do you think? Do Metroid: M, Zelda Wii, and Mario Galaxy 2 put nintendo in the green now?

No. Metroid alone does.

O_O; Yeah, 3rd person Metroid ...

I wish they'd make a Metroid side scroller for the DS, but I'm afraid they're holding back because they cant think of how to integrate the stylus into the game to a significant degree without breaking the gameplay.

Its my favourite series with Final Fantasy Tactics. I sold my Wii last year for FFTA2/DS and now rebuying a Wii specifically for MP Trilogy and this. Oh well i've played everything i wanted to on my PS3 up untill.... I dunno GT5.
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#7 magiciandude
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Isn't it actually 3 main Mario games at once since NES because of Super Mario Galaxy 1?

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#8 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Nintendo's problem has never been in relation with its first-pary support. It has always been top-notch. The problem is that it lacks the third party support to fill the gaps between the first party games.
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#9 midnite_toker22
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what ever happened to kid icarus?

it'd be nice if they created something hardcore that didn't have mario, metroid, or zelda in the title

that occasional newcharacter is nice every once in a while

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#11 hakanakumono
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Nintendo's problem has never been in relation with its first-pary support. It has always been top-notch. The problem is that it lacks the third party support to fill the gaps between the first party games.IronBass

Well historically this was done by Rareware, which is why the N64 still managed to have a competent library after losing practically all of it's Japanese support - probably due to bad relations it built with 3rd party companies.

The gamecube was a very promising system, and managed to showcase a number of quality Resident Evil titles, but not enough support came from other areas.

It seems that developers are excited about developing games for the HD consoles and are perhaps bewildered by applying wii motion technology to their games. For example, Umbrella Chronicles was originally supposed to be a game with different scenarios spanning throughout the series with motion applied to things like kicking doors down. But after a certain point it became a railshooter, and the level design quality in the game really went down, reusing Outbreak levels even. Luckily, they seem to be making a bigger effort with Darkside Chronicles, but its sad to see Capcom making railshooters for the system as opposed to a full fledged RE2 remake.

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#12 GunSmith1_basic
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nintendo still made more 1st party games when they were on the gamecube
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#13 hakanakumono
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Isn't it actually 3 main Mario games at once since NES because of Super Mario Galaxy 1?

magiciandude

Where's the third Mario game?

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#14 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Where's the third Mario game?hakanakumono
NSMBWii. NSMB on the DS is commonly counted as a main Mario game, so I suppose so will be NSMBWii.
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The problem is that it lacks the third party support to fill the gaps between the first party games.IronBass
I'm good on that.
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what ever happened to kid icarus?

it'd be nice if they created something hardcore that didn't have mario, metroid, or zelda in the title

that occasional newcharacter is nice every once in a while

midnite_toker22

Agreed, a new Kid Icarus would rock!

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#17 desmondsultanas
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It's a step in the right direction, but more work is needed. So not quite.Cherokee_Jack
So is hakanakumono's post.

He's trying to prove he's not a Wii basher as a response to him being called out for his behavior in the Wii game lineup thread ;)

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#18 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Where's the third Mario game?IronBass
NSMBWii. NSMB on the DS is commonly counted as a main Mario game, so I suppose so will be NSMBWii.

Hmmm ... Is it really a full length mario game?
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]It's a step in the right direction, but more work is needed. So not quite.desmondsultanas

So is hakanakumono's post.

He's trying to prove he's not a Wii basher as a response to him being called out for his behavior in the Wii game lineup thread ;)

I had already planned this thread in advance; this isn't in response to your thread.

The only way to make you happy would be to completely worship everything out on the wii console like you do, but that's not something I'm going to do. Like I said, I'll give credit where credit is due.

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#20 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Hmmm ... Is it really a full length mario game?hakanakumono
I heard rumors it will have around 80 full levels. If true, I'd say yes. *searching for a link*
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]Hmmm ... Is it really a full length mario game?IronBass
I heard rumors it will have around 80 full levels. If true, I'd say yes. *searching for a link*

The screenshot reminded me of the days of playing NES at my neighbors house ... long after it's time lol.

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#22 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Found it.

Don't be fooled by the name, though; even though the lack of a number at the end of the game's title might suggest it's simply a console port of the DS game, nothing could be further from the truth. This is a genuine sequel, with about 80 new levels, new mechanics, and best of all, four-player simultaneous action.

1Up

Linky.

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#23 hakanakumono
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Found it.

[QUOTE="1Up"]

Don't be fooled by the name, though; even though the lack of a number at the end of the game's title might suggest it's simply a console port of the DS game, nothing could be further from the truth. This is a genuine sequel, with about 80 new levels, new mechanics, and best of all, four-player simultaneous action.

IronBass

Linky.

Cool. I don't own a wii yet, but I might track down the DS ver. for now.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]It's a step in the right direction, but more work is needed. So not quite.desmondsultanas

So is hakanakumono's post.

He's trying to prove he's not a Wii basher as a response to him being called out for his behavior in the Wii game lineup thread ;)

That thread is.... very questionable at best.
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It's possible for Nintendo to end this generation as SALES leader and GAMES (exclusive reviews) leader. Pay back for last gen :evil: :twisted:!
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#26 NBSRDan
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Nintendo is still a failure, except in the sense that they made a ton of money.
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It's possible for Nintendo to end this generation as SALES leader and GAMES (exclusive reviews) leader. Pay back for last gen :evil: :twisted:!TREAL_Since
Payback! I think Nintendo is dong good for hardcore gamers. I'd always like to see more, but its getting good.
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]It's possible for Nintendo to end this generation as SALES leader and GAMES (exclusive reviews) leader. Pay back for last gen :evil: :twisted:!Episode_Eve
Payback! I think Nintendo is dong good for hardcore gamers. I'd always like to see more, but its getting good.

Just IMAGINE if the Wii were graphically equal to the PS3 and 360. I think next gen people will look at it differently and actually take it serious... Pssh graphics whores :P.
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#29 princeofshapeir
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At next year's E3, I expect them to announce: F-Zero Wii-X (Game of the century) Star Fox Wii Kirby Wii Bring us these three games, and Nintendo will be the undisputed winner this gen.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Nintendo's problem has never been in relation with its first-pary support. It has always been top-notch. The problem is that it lacks the third party support to fill the gaps between the first party games.

That and the lack of a decent online network for the Wii kinda sucks.
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#31 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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If they announce a new F-Zero then yes.
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#32 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] Just IMAGINE if the Wii were graphically equal to the PS3 and 360. I think next gen people will look at it differently and actually take it serious..

If Nintendo had current gen graphics, and at least the wood work of a unified online network then I dont think anyone could undermine the Wii.
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#33 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] Just IMAGINE if the Wii were graphically equal to the PS3 and 360. I think next gen people will look at it differently and actually take it serious..

If Nintendo had current gen graphics, and at least the wood work of a unified online network then I dont think anyone could undermine the Wii.

They'd also sell considerably less units, because this dream machine would cost well over FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS.
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#34 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] Just IMAGINE if the Wii were graphically equal to the PS3 and 360. I think next gen people will look at it differently and actually take it serious..

If Nintendo had current gen graphics, and at least the wood work of a unified online network then I dont think anyone could undermine the Wii.

They'd also sell considerably less units, because this dream machine would cost well over FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS.

Are you being sarcastic?
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] If Nintendo had current gen graphics, and at least the wood work of a unified online network then I dont think anyone could undermine the Wii.

They'd also sell considerably less units, because this dream machine would cost well over FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS.

Are you being sarcastic?

Yes. My sarcasm is so thick that you need to ask me if I'm being serious, I see.
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#36 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] They'd also sell considerably less units, because this dream machine would cost well over FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE U.S. DOLLARS.

Are you being sarcastic?

Yes. My sarcasm is so thick that you need to ask me if I'm being serious, I see.

Are you being serious? :P
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#37 xscott1018
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no, the games still lack. it is good but it still lacks a lot of games like the 360, ps3 and pc.
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#38 POJO_MOFO
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those games coupled with Conduit, Punchout, Madworld, etc makes this one of the best years for Wii. Punchout is so freaking good
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#39 Cobalt75
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Those games are great and I will probably pick them up. Unfortunately for Nintendo, I don't see myself buying anything for my Wii till then. I think the last thing I bought for my Wii was Fit, and that was at launch. That is the heart of Nintendo's problem.

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[QUOTE="midnite_toker22"]

what ever happened to kid icarus?

it'd be nice if they created something hardcore that didn't have mario, metroid, or zelda in the title

that occasional newcharacter is nice every once in a while

They are working on a new RPG title, I believe. Plus, this new Metroid game is completely different from what we've seen before. Why create a new IP when we can flesh out our old characters more and bring them to a new genre?
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... accuse nintendo of not delivering anymore, right? Nintendo is producing two main Mario titles in one generation for the first time since the Snes. I'd say that's pretty impressive. What do you think? Do Metroid: M, Zelda Wii, and Mario Galaxy 2 put nintendo in the green now?

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Neither of them do. We've seen all those characters before on the Wii. Fox, Kirby, and Falcon should've been here, they would've put Ninty in the green. And Other M. Umm, no.
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#42 FloWeN-UK
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Only Nintendo can get away with rehashing the same franchise over and over and over again until the end of time. It some how saved them from a very appalling E3 press conference. Mario Galaxy 2 looks almost exactly the same as mario galaxy 3, that metroid game though. That was different atleast.

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#43 jsmoke03
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no...because its what they always do. dude the only games that are ever good for ninty are the same ones that they have relied on for about 20+ years. new ip's would help don't you think? pikmin was a new idea last gen, i believe, and they need new ip's and better 3rd party games....oh and get rid of that stupid remote and go back to classic controllers...i can't stand playing on that crap

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as much as like mario i need more then that to buy a console, i never cared about metroid or zelda

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#45 OrwellJames
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We know next to nothing about Zelda Wii, Mario Galaxy 2 appears to feature the exact same gameplay mechanics as Mario Galaxy, and I don't see anything indicating a divergence from previous Metroid titles in Other M. I think some scintilla of originality might put Nintendo in the green. But since I still have my Super NIntendo, I don't see a whole lot of reasons to pay Nintendo more money for the same products.
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#46 Lionheart08
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I still want my Kirby and Star Fox though. :P

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#47 Cyberfairy
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It's good that they're finally developing some core-games, but they're still pretty far away from a release date which puts them down. Still, it is really nice of Nintendo to do these "core"-games even though they don't sell very well compared to wii-sports (as an example) just to please the fans.