So PS3 Reached 9 Million Before Xbox 360

To many variables to really predict what will happen, but once a handful of things happen on all three consoles, the predictions become clearer.

*All three Consoles at or under $199.

*Wide variety of Good/Great Games at discounted prices(Greatest Hits) on all three consoles.

*All Three consoles with a level playing field of system sellers ( Probably holiday 2008 )

Alot of people seem to forget about software sales in favor of hardware on this forum as well, when trying to predict a clear victor this early in the generation.

7thSIN

Amen. Why would people who owned a last generation console buy a PS3 when its best franchise games aren't even out yet? I hear a lot of that here where I live. That's a big reason why the PS3 aren't doing as well as other consoles who already have their best games out(halo, geow, mass effect, mario, zelda, mp,..etc)

It's hilarious that you still have those quotes in your sig when they've proven to be spot on with factual data.

But you're a cow, denial is your thing.

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.Shinobi7777

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.Shinobi7777

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall).

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

But which game went on to sell over 14 million copies overall? GTA3 sold the PS2 whether you want to admit that or not.

Everyone waiting for MGS4 and FFXIII already have a PS3.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

I'm not that dumb to assume that new IPs that doesn't appeal to the mass would do that to a new console even if it's a PS.

If you don't think those will make PS3 sell more then you don't know much about how things work.

Just watch how people will start getting their PS3 when those games come out, especially in Japan and Europe.

Shinobi7777

Most of the people waiting for those games already have a PS3.

Not my case and for a lot of people I know.

You're the minority.

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

I'm not that dumb to assume that new IPs that doesn't appeal to the mass would do that to a new console even if it's a PS.

If you don't think those will make PS3 sell more then you don't know much about how things work.

Just watch how people will start getting their PS3 when those games come out, especially in Japan and Europe.

Yellow_Rose

Most of the people waiting for those games already have a PS3.

Not my case and for a lot of people I know.

You're the minority.

Yes, people here at gamespot are the majority right?

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

Another fun fact according to VGchartz ;)

Remember this little tizzy from Namco how their PS3 games have to sell 500,000 copies just to break even?

Well according to VGchartz, not only has none of their PS3 total game sales combined has reached 500k, but....

... not a single PS3 game has sold over 500k in Japan

And you wonder why the MGS4 to 360 rumors keep popping up? :lol:

-Renegade

Check those totals again.. PS3 has 6 million sellers 4 of them third party games. It also has 12 games that have sold over 500k units.

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Sales

My link is for Japan.

It's hilarious that you still have those quotes in your sig when they've proven to be spot on with factual data.

But you're a cow, denial is your thing.

V_Isle

he quote hasn't been proven wrong. for all we know the ps3 could of sold more. since we don't know ww sales you won't know who sold more.

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.X_Evo

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

I see you're still at it.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.Chutebox

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

I see you're still at it.

I see you're still in denial :)

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.X_Evo

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

Source

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

I'm not that dumb to assume that new IPs that doesn't appeal to the mass would do that to a new console even if it's a PS.

If you don't think those will make PS3 sell more then you don't know much about how things work.

Just watch how people will start getting their PS3 when those games come out, especially in Japan and Europe.

rocktimusprime

Most of the people waiting for those games already have a PS3.

Not my case and for a lot of people I know.

MGS is a system seller, but is it going to be to the degree of halo? I mean Halo single handedly made the 360, beat the Wii in september, Im not sure if MGS can do that, but you never know.

I never compared it to Halo selling systems wise, but it WILL sell systems that's for sure. If like we think MGS4 comes out in April or May and PS3 sales go from the 400k range to the 700-800k range(it's a worldwide release) then that is a definition of a system seller.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.-Renegade

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

Source

VGchartz :lol:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29985 says otherwise. Mind you this is from 10/26/07 but little over 2 months wont sell that many.

Some people don't understand.

VGCHARTZ HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN.IT IS INNACURATE AND UNRELIABLE.STOP. USING. IT.

You know how people laugh at those who wear toupee's? That's what it's like with people who use vgchartz.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]MGS4 is not a system seller. Most people have no clue what it is and won't buy a PS3 for it. FF13 isn't coming until 2009, so the PS3's 2008 lineup is extremely weak. It will never pass the 360.X_Evo

Why then the PS2 sales went from 19million to 29million in less than 5 months after MGS2 and FF10 came out? MGS2 sold 600k at launch(close to 6million overall) and FF10 over 2million(close to 8million overall)c.

And don't mention GTA 3 cause it only sold 300k in its first 6months, around 130k when it launched.

And MGS3/FFXII sold around 4mil .. I don't see your point :).. also what ass did you pull those FFX numbers from?

Source

VGchats D:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29985 says otherwise

We all know the total sales...who doesn't? the numbers I gave where from the launch of both MGS2 and FF10 in the PS2, it boosted PS2's sales from 20million to 29million. I used vgchartz cause that's the only website I know that can give me the stats I need specifically. It has GTA3 selling 300-400k copies in the first months of its release(GTA2 and 1 weren't exactly system sellers u know):

Link

Some people don't understand.

VGCHARTZ HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN.IT IS INNACURATE AND UNRELIABLE.STOP. USING. IT.

You know how people laugh at those who wear toupee's? That's what it's like with people who use vgchartz.

V_Isle

We all know the total sales...who doesn't? the numbers I gave where from the launch of both MGS2 and FF10 in the PS2, it boosted PS2's sales from 20million to 29million. I used vgchartz cause that's the only website I know that can give me the stats I need specifically. It has GTA3 selling 300-400k copies in the first months of its release(GTA2 and 1 weren't exactly system sellers u know):

Link

Shinobi7777

Apparently you don't as you said FFX sold 8 million :P .. GTA3 was the first of the 3D versions of the series in no right was its popularity where it is at after all the games after GTA3(which still sold over 10million) .. so your argument fails?

I'm always harder on PS3 sales because its a successor to the 120 million, 60% market share PS2.

360 needs software and hype to sell, while PS3 can ride of its PS2 reputation.

I'm always harder on PS3 sales because its a successor to the 120 million, 60% market share PS2.

360 needs software and hype to sell, while PS3 can ride of its PS2 reputation.

Blue-Sky

Which makes the 40gig lack of BC seem even bigger of a mistake by Sony. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with that.

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 sales are pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Yellow_Rose

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Willing to bet that it will. You think the PS3 is outselling the xbox360 worldwide now? Just watch when FF 13, MGS4, GT5 and GoW III come out.

You can't make bold predictions about the future but knowing those franchises success in that past guessing is not that hard here.

Substitute those for Motostorm, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted and you have a thread from last year. ;)

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

I'm not that dumb to assume that new IPs that doesn't appeal to the mass would do that to a new console even if it's a PS.

If you don't think those will make PS3 sell more then you don't know much about how things work.

Just watch how people will start getting their PS3 when those games come out, especially in Japan and Europe.

Shinobi7777

Most of the people waiting for those games already have a PS3.

Not my case and for a lot of people I know.

MGS is a system seller, but is it going to be to the degree of halo? I mean Halo single handedly made the 360, beat the Wii in september, Im not sure if MGS can do that, but you never know.

I never compared it to Halo selling systems wise, but it WILL sell systems that's for sure. If like we think MGS4 comes out in April or May and PS3 sales go from the 400k range to the 700-800k range(it's a worldwide release) then that is a definition of a system seller.

you do realize that sales for the ps3 and 360 will probably be around 200k to 100k in those months.........

you do realize that sales for the ps3 and 360 will probably be around 200k to 100k in those months.........

Do you mean Ps3 200k to 360 100k? If so, I'd be very surprised if that's all the benifit Ps3 sees. Talking worldwide that is.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I'm always harder on PS3 sales because its a successor to the 120 million, 60% market share PS2.

360 needs software and hype to sell, while PS3 can ride of its PS2 reputation.

Chutebox

Which makes the 40gig lack of BC seem even bigger of a mistake by Sony. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with that.

*looks at his 40gig ps3*

Sigh why did you remind me?...

[QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

We all know the total sales...who doesn't? the numbers I gave where from the launch of both MGS2 and FF10 in the PS2, it boosted PS2's sales from 20million to 29million. I used vgchartz cause that's the only website I know that can give me the stats I need specifically. It has GTA3 selling 300-400k copies in the first months of its release(GTA2 and 1 weren't exactly system sellers u know):

Link

X_Evo

Apparently you don't as you said FFX sold 8 million :P .. GTA3 was the first of the 3D versions of the series in no right was its popularity where it is at after all the games after GTA3(which still sold over 10million) .. so your argument fails?

FF1o sold 8million overall, over 2million when it launched based on a worldwide criteria since it came out first in japan. GTA3 only picked up in saled in in 2002 when people already bought their PS for FF10 and MGS2 who are WELL known best selling franchises from the PS!(see FF7 and MGS sales).

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"]

We all know the total sales...who doesn't? the numbers I gave where from the launch of both MGS2 and FF10 in the PS2, it boosted PS2's sales from 20million to 29million. I used vgchartz cause that's the only website I know that can give me the stats I need specifically. It has GTA3 selling 300-400k copies in the first months of its release(GTA2 and 1 weren't exactly system sellers u know):

Link

Shinobi7777

Apparently you don't as you said FFX sold 8 million :P .. GTA3 was the first of the 3D versions of the series in no right was its popularity where it is at after all the games after GTA3(which still sold over 10million) .. so your argument fails?

FF1o sold 8million overall, over 2million when it launched based on a worldwide criteria since it came out first in japan. GTA3 only picked up in saled in in 2002 when people already bought their PS for FF10 and MGS2 who are WELL known best selling franchises from the PS!(see FF7 and MGS sales).

Yes I know FF7/MGS2 did well, But FF8 - 12 each game has been selling less then its predecessor and MGS 3 barely reached 50% of MGS2...

No I mean last year the PS3 was selling around 100k+ and the 360 was doing 200k + on a monthly basis.

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

rocktimusprime

I will be very shocked and disappointed if Sony doesn't market the **** out of MGS4, it's a game that really deserves it. Was Halo 3 Worldwide release by the way, don't remember?

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I'm always harder on PS3 sales because its a successor to the 120 million, 60% market share PS2.

360 needs software and hype to sell, while PS3 can ride of its PS2 reputation.

Chutebox

Which makes the 40gig lack of BC seem even bigger of a mistake by Sony. Honestly don't know what they were thinking with that.

they said they researched and found out not that many people play ps2 games once they have a ps3

plus most ps1 ans ps2 owners got their consoles chiped......thats why the console sold so much cause people bought it chiped it and started buying burned games

Yo I think that guy over there is using VGchartz :lol:

Yo son I am not joking. This ***** is actually using VGchartz! :lol:

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]No I mean last year the PS3 was selling around 100k+ and the 360 was doing 200k + on a monthly basis.

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

Chutebox

I will be very shocked and disappointed if Sony doesn't market the **** out of MGS4, it's a game that really deserves it. Was Halo 3 Worldwide release by the way, don't remember?

I think it was worldwide, it would have to be.

I just wonder whats going on with Sony, because nearly a year before Halo 3, there was ads during Monday Night Football. They had the hype machine going all winter and spring. They had the Crackdown beta, they had gamer soda.

Sony on the other had just has a commerical with 10 seconds of video that isn't gameplay, and a loud song playing saying "you'll be begging for more."

I imagine though that part of this has to do with the fact that MGS4 is being made by Konami. So therefore Konami may be the ones to take it upon themselves to advertise the game, since after all it's not a game made by SCE.

If that's true, Bad move, Sony should handle all the publicity on this game. One of the benefits Bungie had was they just made the game and let MS do all the dirty Ad work.

If I were Sony, I'd arrange the same deal. They may have, they may not have, but currently it seems like not.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 sales are pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?jbz7890

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 salesare pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Realmjumper

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

Time for Ballroompirates fun fact of the day

MS replaces broken 360s for free

Sony didn't replace broken PS2s, users had to buy a new one if it broke.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]No I mean last year the PS3 was selling around 100k+ and the 360 was doing 200k + on a monthly basis.

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

rocktimusprime

I will be very shocked and disappointed if Sony doesn't market the **** out of MGS4, it's a game that really deserves it. Was Halo 3 Worldwide release by the way, don't remember?

I think it was worldwide, it would have to be.

I just wonder whats going on with Sony, because nearly a year before Halo 3, there was ads during Monday Night Football. They had the hype machine going all winter and spring. They had the Crackdown beta, they had gamer soda.

Sony on the other had just has a commerical with 10 seconds of video that isn't gameplay, and a loud song playing saying "you'll be begging for more."

I imagine though that part of this has to do with the fact that MGS4 is being made by Konami. So therefore Konami may be the ones to take it upon themselves to advertise the game, since after all it's not a game made by SCE.

If that's true, Bad move, Sony should handle all the publicity on this game. One of the benefits Bungie had was they just made the game and let MS do all the dirty Ad work.

If I were Sony, I'd arrange the same deal. They may have, they may not have, but currently it seems like not.

Well, MGS4 I think is more important to Sony than it is to Konami, so I hope that Sony would help Konami advertise this game like no other.

[QUOTE="Realmjumper"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 salesare pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Ballroompirate

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

Time for Ballroompirates fun fact of the day

MS replaces broken 360s for free

Sony didn't replace broken PS2s, users had to buy a new one if it broke.

I had to buy 3 :( It left a sour taste in my mouth, and I am thankful atleast MS manned up. Sony just said it's broke, and sold a new system and said "one more sale! KACHING!"

[QUOTE="Realmjumper"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 salesare pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Ballroompirate

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

Time for Ballroompirates fun fact of the day

MS replaces broken 360s for free

Sony didn't replace broken PS2s, users had to buy a new one if it broke.

I was rather pissed at Sony for that. So I would buy a new one, clean my old one up and switch the stickers on the back, then return the old one and keep the new one. I know, I'm a scumbag.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"][QUOTE="Realmjumper"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 salesare pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?rocktimusprime

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

Time for Ballroompirates fun fact of the day

MS replaces broken 360s for free

Sony didn't replace broken PS2s, users had to buy a new one if it broke.

I had to buy 3 :( It left a sour taste in my mouth, and I am thankful atleast MS manned up. Sony just said it's broke, and sold a new system and said "one more sale! KACHING!"

I'm on my 7th ps2 :|

(although 1 broke cause of me)

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]No I mean last year the PS3 was selling around 100k+ and the 360 was doing 200k + on a monthly basis.

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

Chutebox

I will be very shocked and disappointed if Sony doesn't market the **** out of MGS4, it's a game that really deserves it. Was Halo 3 Worldwide release by the way, don't remember?

I think it was worldwide, it would have to be.

I just wonder whats going on with Sony, because nearly a year before Halo 3, there was ads during Monday Night Football. They had the hype machine going all winter and spring. They had the Crackdown beta, they had gamer soda.

Sony on the other had just has a commerical with 10 seconds of video that isn't gameplay, and a loud song playing saying "you'll be begging for more."

I imagine though that part of this has to do with the fact that MGS4 is being made by Konami. So therefore Konami may be the ones to take it upon themselves to advertise the game, since after all it's not a game made by SCE.

If that's true, Bad move, Sony should handle all the publicity on this game. One of the benefits Bungie had was they just made the game and let MS do all the dirty Ad work.

If I were Sony, I'd arrange the same deal. They may have, they may not have, but currently it seems like not.

Well, MGS4 I think is more important to Sony than it is to Konami, so I hope that Sony would help Konami advertise this game like no other.

My only reason to think Sony is not advertising the hell out of the game is that Kojima doesn't want much shown off. But then again, how much story will you ruin in a 30 second ad?

If MGS4 does not sell as well as everyone is predicting, it will be on Sony's hands, not Konami's, for failing to market, and generate enough media attention on the game.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]No I mean last year the PS3 was selling around 100k+ and the 360 was doing 200k + on a monthly basis.

Because of the holidays the systems are selling very well, and in high volume. So when the market returns to normal, MGS4 will have to move nearly 500k consoles to reach the "halo," effect.

Not that it can't do that, but that's a pretty steep climb, and Halo certainely had the hype and marketing behind it. PS3 will probably sell very well because of MGS4, but since Halo 3's release, the 360 had been on fire, and was selling extremely well. I am not sure if the ps3 can emulate that, but only time will tell.

rocktimusprime

I will be very shocked and disappointed if Sony doesn't market the **** out of MGS4, it's a game that really deserves it. Was Halo 3 Worldwide release by the way, don't remember?

I think it was worldwide, it would have to be.

I just wonder whats going on with Sony, because nearly a year before Halo 3, there was ads during Monday Night Football. They had the hype machine going all winter and spring. They had the Crackdown beta, they had gamer soda.

Sony on the other had just has a commerical with 10 seconds of video that isn't gameplay, and a loud song playing saying "you'll be begging for more."

I imagine though that part of this has to do with the fact that MGS4 is being made by Konami. So therefore Konami may be the ones to take it upon themselves to advertise the game, since after all it's not a game made by SCE.

If that's true, Bad move, Sony should handle all the publicity on this game. One of the benefits Bungie had was they just made the game and let MS do all the dirty Ad work.

If I were Sony, I'd arrange the same deal. They may have, they may not have, but currently it seems like not.

Well, MGS4 I think is more important to Sony than it is to Konami, so I hope that Sony would help Konami advertise this game like no other.

My only reason to think Sony is not advertising the hell out of the game is that Kojima doesn't want much shown off. But then again, how much story will you ruin in a 30 second ad?

If MGS4 does not sell as well as everyone is predicting, it will be on Sony's hands, not Konami's, for failing to market, and generate enough media attention on the game.

They really cant ruin anything, if I'm not mistaken wasn't there like a 6 min trailer for that tokyo video game event?, 30 sec for a WW commercial is like nothing compared to that 6min trailer.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 sales are pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Chutebox

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Willing to bet that it will. You think the PS3 is outselling the xbox360 worldwide now? Just watch when FF 13, MGS4, GT5 and GoW III come out.

You can't make bold predictions about the future but knowing those franchises success in that past guessing is not that hard here.

Substitute those for Motostorm, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted and you have a thread from last year. ;)

Except these are known to be the most popular of their respect genres right now. Don't compare those games to new franchises.

Please don't mod me NFL lol

Please don't mod me NFL lol

Blackbond

They won't mod you...they'll "take care" of you. Look out your door!

they said they researched and found out not that many people play ps2 games once they have a ps3

plus most ps1 ans ps2 owners got their consoles chiped......thats why the console sold so much cause people bought it chiped it and started buying burned games

bufu21

LMFAO. No. Just. No.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 salesare pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?Ballroompirate

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Considering how many broken Xbox 360's there are I find your statement to be cocky. Also there is no evidence to say it won't pass the 360. On the contrary, I rather buy a PS 3 knowing it won't crap out on me than a 360.

Time for Ballroompirates fun fact of the day

MS replaces broken 360s for free

Sony didn't replace broken PS2s, users had to buy a new one if it broke.

Actually thats false. They had a ****action lawsuit filed against them. They just weren't exactly open when it came to discussing it. If your PS2 got the DRE, you could send it to them and they would either fix it or send you a new one. I did it with both my PS2 and my brother's...

Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. If PS3 sales are pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?-Renegade

Ps3 should be blowing the 360 out of the water as far as sales go. According to all fanboys people that have ps2's are going to eventually buy ps3's. Original xbox sold like 24 million and ps2 sold like 120 million. With that big of a base the ps3 should be surpassing the 360's numbers with ease, and its just not the case. I am pretty neutral because I have all three consoles, but however you look at it the ps3 is still kind of tanking. Sonys expectations for their newest console were much higher than this.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Shinobi7777"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Good stuff 360 didn't reach 9 Million units sold until Feb. of last year. It PS3 sales are pathetic for its first year then what does that make Xbox 360s?DrinkDuff

The PS3 will never pass the 360, sorry.

Willing to bet that it will. You think the PS3 is outselling the xbox360 worldwide now? Just watch when FF 13, MGS4, GT5 and GoW III come out.

You can't make bold predictions about the future but knowing those franchises success in that past guessing is not that hard here.

Substitute those for Motostorm, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted and you have a thread from last year. ;)

Except these are known to be the most popular of their respect genres right now. Don't compare those games to new franchises.