So, Quantum Break is... a cover-based shooter.

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#1 DrRockso87
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Gonna be honest, love Sam Lake, love Remedy, but a little disappointed and underwhelmed by the gameplay demo. Sure, graphics look great! But gameplay so far looked... ehhhh. I don't know. Didn't look that good but maybe we just need to see more?

I was really hoping this game would be an "action game" like the original Max Payne but it sounds more like Max Payne 3 (dumbed down cover-shooter with action elements).

But I'm sure the story will be amazing. Anyone else feel this way?

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Please be excited.

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#3  Edited By XboxFails
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The more complicated and weaker your console is, the less resources you devote for things like gameplay, story, and other non-graphical features.

Remedy is probably using 99% of their time and budget for trying to get their resolution to at least 720p. They'll probably go multiplat and abandon Microsoft once they find out they can make much better-looking games and much better games overall by going PS4 exclusive at half of amount of money and time they spent on Xbone. lol...

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It looked (gameplay wise) much better that what i expected. If its 720p tho then lol

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What gameplay? There was like a couple of 1-2s long shots and in one of them you could clearly see that the character used his special "time" ability(zipping around) so it isn't just "cover based shooter" and btw Max Payne 3 wasn't "dumbed down",it's one of the best TPSs ever made.

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I share in your cautious enthusiasm TC, but I'm less certain about anything with this game (story included). Not a huge fan of Alan Wake, which may explain a bit of my trepidation.

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Haven't seen enough about it to comment.

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@silversix_ said:

If its 720p tho then lol

Not indicative of quality.

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Max Payne and Alan Wake had a baby? I like it.

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#9  Edited By Renegade311
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@XboxFails said:

The more complicated and weaker your console is, the less resources you devote for things like gameplay, story, and other non-graphical features.

Remedy is probably using 99% of their time and budget for trying to get their resolution to at least 720p. They'll probably go multiplat and abandon Microsoft once they find out they can make much better-looking games and much better games overall by going PS4 exclusive at half of amount of money and time they spent on Xbone. lol...

Still delusional battlefieldfan1?

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#11  Edited By Renegade311
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@farrell2k said:

Another shooter? Wow, you XB1 owners have such variety in you games...

Most games have pretty simple gameplay when you think about it. Cows wank over Uncharted and TLOU and those games core mechanics are shooters also. Especially Uncharted.

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#13  Edited By BattleSpectre
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I loved Alan Wake, I also enjoyed Max Payne 3. What could possibly go wrong?

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Barely saw any gameplay.

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I fudging loved Max Payne 3! Btw just got up - typing from a phone, I'm yet to see the footage.

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@renegade311 said:

@farrell2k said:

Another shooter? Wow, you XB1 owners have such variety in you games...

Most games have pretty simple gameplay when you think about it. Cows wank over Uncharted and TLOU and those games core mechanics are shooters also. Especially Uncharted.

Don't forget KillZone :P

but they do have a point... Xbox is Heavy on the shooters and do lack variety. Killer Instinc was a nice start but they chose a dead game and worse a fighting game into a shooting game player base. They could use more adventure games.

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#17  Edited By Renegade311
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@Joedgabe said:

@renegade311 said:

@farrell2k said:

Another shooter? Wow, you XB1 owners have such variety in you games...

Most games have pretty simple gameplay when you think about it. Cows wank over Uncharted and TLOU and those games core mechanics are shooters also. Especially Uncharted.

Don't forget KillZone :P

but they do have a point... Xbox is Heavy on the shooters and do lack variety. Killer Instinc was a nice start but they chose a dead game and worse a fighting game into a shooting game player base. They could use more adventure games.

Really? The PS4's biggest launch exclusive was a shooter, their next biggest Uncharted, is a shooter unless they drastically changed the Uncharted 1-3 formula. Order 1866 = most likely a shooter,

Both the PS3 and most likely the PS4 will have more exclusives that are shooter based than the Xbox 360 and XB1 will.

You say they could use more adventure games? Like Knack? No thanks, I'd rather play Dead Rising which is actually a good game.

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@renegade311 said:

@Joedgabe said:

@renegade311 said:

@farrell2k said:

Another shooter? Wow, you XB1 owners have such variety in you games...

Most games have pretty simple gameplay when you think about it. Cows wank over Uncharted and TLOU and those games core mechanics are shooters also. Especially Uncharted.

Don't forget KillZone :P

but they do have a point... Xbox is Heavy on the shooters and do lack variety. Killer Instinc was a nice start but they chose a dead game and worse a fighting game into a shooting game player base. They could use more adventure games.

Really? The PS4's biggest launch exclusive was a shooter, their next biggest Uncharted, is a shooter unless they drastically changed the Uncharted 1-3 formula. Order 1866 = most likely a shooter,

Both the PS3 and most likely the PS4 will have more exclusives that are shooter based than the Xbox 360 and XB1 will.

You say they could use more adventure games? Like Knack? No thanks, I'd rather play Dead Rising which is actually a good game.

so? it's only initial.. Sony mostly releases a ton of adventure games.. while uncharted is TPS is also an adventure game, and honestly idk why they're making another uncharted, but people seem to want it. Plus Dead Rising is as good as lolipop chainsaw, sorry... but it's pretty bore. Both launches are lame but it's okay it's better than previous ones.

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@XboxFails said:

The more complicated and weaker your console is, the less resources you devote for things like gameplay, story, and other non-graphical features.

Remedy is probably using 99% of their time and budget for trying to get their resolution to at least 720p. They'll probably go multiplat and abandon Microsoft once they find out they can make much better-looking games and much better games overall by going PS4 exclusive at half of amount of money and time they spent on Xbone. lol...

Literally nothing you said made any sense.

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pretty much the standard now for every 3rd person shooter

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#21  Edited By Renegade311
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@Joedgabe said:

so? it's only initial.. Sony mostly releases a ton of adventure games.. while uncharted is TPS is also an adventure game, and honestly idk why they're making another uncharted, but people seem to want it. Plus Dead Rising is as good as lolipop chainsaw, sorry... but it's pretty bore. Both launches are lame but it's okay it's better than previous ones.

It doesn't matter, most of the PS3's biggest games were shooters. The PS3 had Resistance and Killzone, Resistance had three entries on the PS3 and Killzone had 2. Anyway you try to spin it the PS3 was more shooter heavy than the 360 was.

Uncharted is an ACTION game, 90% of the gameplay uses shooting and cover mechanics. Throwing in the occasional puzzle and some platforming doesn't change the fact that it's primarily a shooter. Even the MP is SHOOTER based.

It doesn't matter if you like Dead Rising or not. The claim you made was that Xbox is heavy in shooters. That is incorrect. If you look at last gen, PS3 was more shooter heavy, if you look at this gen, PS4 is more shooter heavy.

Of course this may change in the future but I don't judge things based on an element on unpredictability. Only what we presently known,.

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What did you expect? Remedy makes great shooters, what makes you think they'd change now?

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#23  Edited By campzor
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so its gears + timeshift.

lol lems.

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Neither X360 nor Xbox One don't suffer from lack of variety. In fact, 360 obliterated PS3 in terms of variety and quite soon I'm going to make a thread about how diverse and underrated the selection of its games was. And this is not even an opinion thing! To say 360 lacked variety is a very narrow-minded statement coming from who doesn't have much interest in games besides just a handful blockbusters.

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#25  Edited By Cranler
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@raging_user said:

pretty much the standard now for every 3rd person shooter

This, even many fps games have cover mechanics now. The 3 biggest shooters in the last year for instance. FC 3, BF 4 and Ghosts

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@campzor said:

so its gears + timeshift.

lol lems.

More like Max Payne with a cover system. Gears didnt invent cover.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

I fudging loved Max Payne 3! Btw just got up - typing from a phone, I'm yet to see the footage.

Gross. Easily worst in the series and not unsurprisingly, Remedy didn't make it.

Crazy visual downgrade here (well, not really, considering we never saw any of it. But lems were hyping the earlier CGI as gameplay, so it's certainly worth bringing back up as ownage), but I know the game will be great. It's Remedy entertainment. They made arguably the best TPS of all time. And made one of the top 20 games of last gen.

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The fact that you think Max Payne 3 was a dumbed down cover shooter makes me not care about your post.

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#29  Edited By Joedgabe
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@renegade311 said:

@Joedgabe said:

so? it's only initial.. Sony mostly releases a ton of adventure games.. while uncharted is TPS is also an adventure game, and honestly idk why they're making another uncharted, but people seem to want it. Plus Dead Rising is as good as lolipop chainsaw, sorry... but it's pretty bore. Both launches are lame but it's okay it's better than previous ones.

It doesn't matter, most of the PS3's biggest games were shooters. The PS3 had Resistance and Killzone, Resistance had three entries on the PS3 and Killzone had 2. Anyway you try to spin it the PS3 was more shooter heavy than the 360 was.

Uncharted is an ACTION game, 90% of the gameplay uses shooting and cover mechanics. Throwing in the occasional puzzle and some platforming doesn't change the fact that it's primarily a shooter. Even the MP is SHOOTER based.

It doesn't matter if you like Dead Rising or not. The claim you made was that Xbox is heavy in shooters. That is incorrect. If you look at last gen, PS3 was more shooter heavy, if you look at this gen, PS4 is more shooter heavy.

Of course this may change in the future but I don't judge things based on an element on unpredictability. Only what we presently known,.

Xbox is heavy shooter based for it's exclusives.. no matter what you say isn't gonna change that. You never played uncharted... sure it has guns but calling it a shooter because it has shooting mechanics is silly.. i mean the shooting mechanics are as bad as GTA's and nobody calls GTA a shooter. But w/e.. there's no reasoning with ya. I found out today playing through a castlevania it has a gun as a weapon. oh wait.. FF also has guns too :D wait wait.. you toss things on the Witcher. I do give it to you.. it does have shooting mechanics but outrigt i wouldn't call it a shooter. There was the 3 Resistance and 2 killzones. 5 and with MAG 6. How many adventure games though ? and RPG's? This year alone they released 4 adventure games for the Ps3.(pupeteer, sly cooper, God Of War, The Last of US ( though it is survival horror ) and RPGs.. ( Disgaea , xillia, dragons crown, altheir aeris ( something like that ) ) and that's like 1 year... VS the life time.

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I thought it was a new sci-fi series on Syfy channel.

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@senses_fail_06 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

I fudging loved Max Payne 3! Btw just got up - typing from a phone, I'm yet to see the footage.

Gross. Easily worst in the series and not unsurprisingly, Remedy didn't make it.

Crazy visual downgrade here (well, not really, considering we never saw any of it. But lems were hyping the earlier CGI as gameplay, so it's certainly worth bringing back up as ownage), but I know the game will be great. It's Remedy entertainment. They made arguably the best TPS of all time. And made one of the top 20 games of last gen.

Yeah Max Payne 3 was a decent game, but it was not a good Max Payne game.

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#32  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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Max Payne 3 is criminally underrated for me and has great multiplayer which rewards skill.

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@Joedgabe said:

but they do have a point... Xbox is Heavy on the shooters

Really? Shooters such as...

You have KI, Forza, Ryse, Crimson Dragon, DR3 right now for XO. Is anything but heavy on shooters. PS4 on the other hand, half of its library is shooters. It opened up with a big exclusive FPS.

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#34  Edited By Renegade311
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@Joedgabe said:

Xbox is heavy shooter based for it's exclusives.. no matter what you say isn't gonna change that. You never played uncharted... sure it has guns but calling it a shooter because it has shooting mechanics is silly.. i mean the shooting mechanics are as bad as GTA's and nobody calls GTA a shooter. But w/e.. there's no reasoning with ya. I found out today playing through a castlevania it has a gun as a weapon. oh wait.. FF also has guns too :D wait wait.. you toss things on the Witcher. I do give it to you.. it does have shooting mechanics but outrigt i wouldn't call it a shooter. There was the 3 Resistance and 2 killzones. 5 and with MAG 6. How many adventure games though ? and RPG's? This year alone they released 4 adventure games for the Ps3.(pupeteer, sly cooper, God Of War, The Last of US ( though it is survival horror ) and RPGs.. ( Disgaea , xillia, dragons crown, altheir aeris ( something like that ) ) and that's like 1 year... VS the life time.

LMAO Now you're trying to backtrack, and even if you want to use exclusives only you're still wrong. Halo and Gears were the 360's primary shooters, compared to Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, TLOU, MAG, Warhawk, Starhawk, SOCOM, ETC.

I've beaten every Uncharted title minus the Vita title, and I have the trophies to back this up. GTA is shooting, driving, and mini games like playing golf or pool, skydiving, etc. Uncharted is 90% shooting, 10% puzzles/stealth/platforming. There's a far greater variety in GTA than in Uncharted and TLOU.

Trying to classify TLOU as an adventure or a survival horror game is desperation on your part, considering 90% of what you're doing in that game is shooting as well. Gamespot even classifies TLOU as an action game, same with games like Halo and Gears of War. And yes I have the trophies to show I've beaten TLOU to since assuming what games I have and haven't played seems to be the only argument you can come up with.

And just like Uncharted, TLOU MP is shooter based.

Weather the PS3 had a lot of RPG's or adventure games is irrelevant. The argument you made was that the Xbox was more shooter heavy. When you lost that argument you changed to exclusive, and you'd still be wrong because from a pure quantitative perspective the PS3 and as of now the PS4 have more shooters than the Xbox 360 and XBOne do.

Try not to think about it too hard, we don't want you hurting your poor little brain.

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They always make TPS with a twist. In QB there will be various time powers. I'm sure the game part will be great. Pausing for 20min (or whatever) to watch a low budget TV-show is what doesn't make any sense to me.

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#36  Edited By Gue1
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lems loving them TV-show games.

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@SteXmaN said:

What gameplay? There was like a couple of 1-2s long shots and in one of them you could clearly see that the character used his special "time" ability(zipping around) so it isn't just "cover based shooter" and btw Max Payne 3 wasn't "dumbed down",it's one of the best TPSs ever made.

A third person shooter where the character uses his special 'time ability' ? I'm sure I've seen that somewhere before :p

Btw, I agree with you, Max Payne 3 was amazing. People just like to bitch because it wasn't the exact same game that they've played before.