So some Wii U spec leaks start looking very likely....

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#1 ShadowDeathX
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We seen some leaks lately and some of them look pretty real.


CPU: IBM Power7 Quad-Core CPU at 3.0 Ghz (Cores having four threads each, for a total of 16 threads)

Chance of Occuring? Very Likely.

Why? Nintendo has been using IBM chips for their consoles for a good while now. Gamecube had it and so did the Wii.

The IBM Power7 chip line was created by IBM and released in 2010. These things will blow and blow and blow anything the 360 and PS3 by large margins.

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eDRAM: 32MB

Chance of Occuring? Very Likely.

Why? Well 32MB of eDRAM is good step forward from this generation, and it will supply the CPU with a good amount of RAM. In comparision, the Xbox 360 has only 10MB, while the Wii has only 4MB.

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GPU:"unknown," 40-nanometer GPU from ATI/AMD."

Chance of Occuring? Very Likely.

Why? Nintendo has used ATI chips for their two past consoles. Both the Gamecube and Wii use ATI graphics. Why stop it now?

It is unknown what graphics chip the Wii U will use though. All we know is that it can be a ATI 4xxx or ATI 5xxx series chip. Still a very good step forward from the dinosaur hardware consoles have now.

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RAM: "around 768MB or one gigabyte"

Chance of Occuring? Who Knows.

Why? Well the leak didn't specify what RAM they were talking about. vRAM, MRAM, or uRAM. For all we know, it can be one of all three.

Maybe its 1GB of Main Ram and 768MB of vRAM. Who knows?

Best to not judge that one.

Note* - Before anyone starts saying, Oh RAM is soo cheap now-a-days. Well yes, its cheap, ON PC!!! Console's don't have standarized chips. These things need to be made smaller AND, be made just for that one machine. This can become very costly. Don't compare Console RAM with PC RAM. They aren't very similar like many of you want to think.

Conculsion: The Wii U, based on leaks, will not just be a margin upgrade from the PS3 and Xbox 360. It already is showing that is a good step forward from the Dino-ware console gamers use right now. In my opinion, Nintendo could reach a nice balance between cheapness of console and hardware performance. We don't want another $599 console that will teach usdiscipline, now do we?

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#2 ActionRemix
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The source for the 768 MB of RAM is Wii U Daily, which is just some random fan blog. It insists that it's 768 MB of eDRAM, which is impossible. The rumor is complete crap. 1-2 GB is more likely. http://wiiudaily.com/2011/12/wii-u-has-quad-core-3ghz-cpu-768-mb-of-ram/ Also, I'm pretty sure Nintendo confirmed that it will be a tri-core cpu.
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#3 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The source for the 768 MB of RAM is Wii U Daily, which is just some random fan blog. It insists that it's 768 MB of eDRAM, which is impossible. The rumor is complete crap. 1-2 GB is more likely. http://wiiudaily.com/2011/12/wii-u-has-quad-core-3ghz-cpu-768-mb-of-ram/ Also, I'm pretty sure Nintendo confirmed that it will be a tri-core cpu.

Where did they say? All I remember is that Xbox 360 games would be very easy to port over to them both using IBM hardware.
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#4 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The source for the 768 MB of RAM is Wii U Daily, which is just some random fan blog. It insists that it's 768 MB of eDRAM, which is impossible. The rumor is complete crap. 1-2 GB is more likely. http://wiiudaily.com/2011/12/wii-u-has-quad-core-3ghz-cpu-768-mb-of-ram/ Also, I'm pretty sure Nintendo confirmed that it will be a tri-core cpu.

Where did they say? All I remember is that Xbox 360 games would be very easy to port over to them both using IBM hardware.

I don't recall. Here's an old B3D thread where a dev (Ubisoft?) says it's a tri-core. Either way, just don't take the recent leak as real. It's just some random fan blog. Destructoid linked to it for whatever reason and it took off from there. That blog also says the CPU is PowerPC instead of the confirmed Power7.
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#5 Kaszilla
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I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.
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#6 ActionRemix
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I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
I am willing to bet large amounts of money that the Wii U will be more powerful than the next Xbox. Not sure about Sony. Probably on parity with Wii U or stronger depending on how much later it launches.
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#7 SaltyMeatballs
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Very likely... but very easily could be BS too.
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I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
Why would they? N64 games looked awesome for its time and the console failed. GC looked great and had some of the best looking games last gen and sale were s*it. Wii had pathetic graphics even for 2005 and absolutely dominated the others... I'm expecting the WiiU to be like GC compared to Xbox (last gen) but less powerful. Good enough to get some multiplats but far from ps4/720 graphics.

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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.ActionRemix
I am willing to bet large amounts of money that the Wii U will be more powerful than the next Xbox. Not sure about Sony. Probably on parity with Wii U or stronger depending on how much later it launches.

Are you willing to be broke? I wouldn't bet on it.
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.ActionRemix
I am willing to bet large amounts of money that the Wii U will be more powerful than the next Xbox. Not sure about Sony. Probably on parity with Wii U or stronger depending on how much later it launches.

Well, according to Sony, the ps4 wont be a huge step up from the ps3.
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#11 Kaszilla
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.silversix_

Why would they? N64 games looked awesome for its time and the console failed. GC looked great and had some of the best looking games last gen and sale were s*it. Wii had pathetic graphics even for 2005 and absolutely dominated the others... I'm expecting the WiiU to be like GC compared to Xbox (last gen) but less powerful. Good enough to get some multiplats but far from ps4/720 graphics.

So you think the Wii u will be the ps2 of next Gen?
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla

Why would they? N64 games looked awesome for its time and the console failed. GC looked great and had some of the best looking games last gen and sale were s*it. Wii had pathetic graphics even for 2005 and absolutely dominated the others... I'm expecting the WiiU to be like GC compared to Xbox (last gen) but less powerful. Good enough to get some multiplats but far from ps4/720 graphics.

So you think the Wii u will be the ps2 of next Gen?

PS2 = Wii U. Gamecube = Xbox Next. Xbox = PS4.
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I believe Nintendo has kinda pointed out that the new system will be only slightly more powerful than the current gen Xbox 360/PS3. The AMD R700 (rumored to be the GPU it will use) is already outdated and the best GPU's would be considered middle of the road/mainstream at this point.... that is assuming the specs are going to be close to one of the released GPU's and not some custom designed one based off that chip.

On the bright side, people will actually be able to play games at 1920x1080 on a console but the graphics wont look much better than the other consoles right now.

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I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
Which they never really had...
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#15 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla

Why would they? N64 games looked awesome for its time and the console failed. GC looked great and had some of the best looking games last gen and sale were s*it. Wii had pathetic graphics even for 2005 and absolutely dominated the others... I'm expecting the WiiU to be like GC compared to Xbox (last gen) but less powerful. Good enough to get some multiplats but far from ps4/720 graphics.

So you think the Wii u will be the ps2 of next Gen?

Graphics wise i'd say a little weaker.

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#16 ActionRemix
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PS2 = Wii U. Gamecube = Xbox Next. Xbox = PS4.ShadowDeathX
Dreamcast = Xbox 720; PS2 = Wii U; Gamecube or Xbox = PS4;
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]PS2 = Wii U. Gamecube = Xbox Next. Xbox = PS4.ActionRemix
Dreamcast = Xbox 720; PS2 = Wii U; Gamecube or Xbox = PS4;

The Dreamcast kicked ass, Soul Calibur looks better than any PS2 game.
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]PS2 = Wii U. Gamecube = Xbox Next. Xbox = PS4.ActionRemix
Dreamcast = Xbox 720; PS2 = Wii U; Gamecube or Xbox = PS4;

Quite possible. Call of Duty sells in tons and isn't a good looking game.

What about Halo and Gears of War?? Perhaps Microsoft will shift those to PC, but that would be weird.

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The Dreamcast kicked ass, Soul Calibur looks better than any PS2 game.Spartan070
...Soulcalibur II alone looks tons better than Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast.
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#20 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Quite possible. Call of Duty sells in tons and isn't a good looking game.

What about Halo and Gears of War?? Perhaps Microsoft will shift those to PC, but that would be weird.

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Halo will stay on Xbox. Gears will too, but it might go multiplat. I bet new IPs will be more important, though. Think of all of the new IPs that dominated this gen.
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]The Dreamcast kicked ass, Soul Calibur looks better than any PS2 game.Cherokee_Jack
...Soulcalibur II alone looks tons better than Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast.

Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube has aged extremely well.
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There was this guy somewhere commenting something like 'look at the... cpu... ram... bridge'? Something like that? And he said, it's clearly wrong. And then other people agreed so I don't think they're the real specs. Sorry I'm not a techy.

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#22 Cherokee_Jack
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Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube has aged extremely well. ActionRemix

Even on PS2 it looked good.

Soulcalibur on DC still looks OK but that's all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQXKNLtcVNI

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#23 tormentos
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]PS2 = Wii U. Gamecube = Xbox Next. Xbox = PS4.Spartan070
Dreamcast = Xbox 720; PS2 = Wii U; Gamecube or Xbox = PS4;

The Dreamcast kicked ass, Soul Calibur looks better than any PS2 game.

Oh brother.. It did not even look better than Tekken Tag which was a PS2 launch game,it was already proven people were saying that SC on DC look better than Tekken tag when both games were compare technically,it was easy to see which one was better,in fact the first comparison that proved that was Yoshimitsu models which are find on both games,SC and Tekken Tag,the Tekken Tag Yoshimitsu was way more detailed than the one on SC. The DC did not hold power wise vs the PS2,but it wasn't like both systems release the same year,unlike the PS1 and Saturn,the DC landed on 1998 and the PS2 on 2000.
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#24 ActionRemix
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There was this guy somewhere commenting something like 'look at the... cpu... ram... bridge'? Something like that? And he said, it's clearly wrong. And then other people agreed so I don't think they're the real specs. Sorry I'm not a techy.

KungfuKitten
The CPU is confirmed to be POWER7, but the Wii U Daily specs say the older PowerPC architecture. They also say the console will have 768 MB of eDRAM, which would mean the console would have to be the size of a refrigerator and cost a fortune.
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#25 Kaszilla
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.nintendoboy16
Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

Didn't Jaguar have the superior hardware, and I thought xbox's looked better than gamecube
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i'd still wait for an 'official' statement by Nintendo..

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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

Didn't Jaguar specs beat n64, and I thought xbox's looked better than gamecube

Jaguar never beat N64. PSOne WAS beat by N64, but still, Nintendo never held any console graphics king trophies.
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

True N64 did surpass PS1. And while SNES did own the Genesis, there was the NEO-GEO console, which was stronger than both. And XBOX was stronger than Gamecube, so only 2/3's of my comment was right.

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Didn't Jaguar have the superior hardwarep4s2p0

Superior to the SNES, but it came out in '93 and competed more with the Playstation (which was much more powerful).

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And while SNES did own the Genesis, there was the NEO-GEO console, which was stronger than both.nintendoboy16
The Neo Geo cost $650 and sales were extremely low. I don't think it counts.
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Didn't Jaguar have the superior hardwareCherokee_Jack

Superior to the SNES, but it came out in '93 and competed more with the Playstation (which was much more powerful).

3do was also launched around the same time, and the most expensive. But aren't they both considered 5th gen.
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]I hope Nintendo takes back its place of "king of graphics" next Gen.Kaszilla
Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

You mean XBOX>>>>Gamecube>>PS2.The XBOX it is more powerful than GC.
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#34 Kaszilla
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Which they never really had...nintendoboy16

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

True N64 did surpass PS1. And while SNES did own the Genesis, there was the NEO-GEO console, which was stronger than both. And XBOX was stronger than Gamecube, so only 2/3's of my comment was right.

The Neo geo and snes were pretty much neck to neck with the neo geo being just slightly better and the gamecube and Xbox were equal, in some ways Xbox was more powerful and in some ways gamecube was more powerful.

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I just want a hard drive and HD.
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]And while SNES did own the Genesis, there was the NEO-GEO console, which was stronger than both.Cherokee_Jack
The Neo Geo cost $650 and sales were extremely low. I don't think it counts.

That's like saying the SEGA Saturn doesn't count because that sold badly during the 32/64 bit era. That too had extremely low sales.
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Which they never really had...p4s2p0
Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

Didn't Jaguar have the superior hardware, and I thought xbox's looked better than gamecube

Jaguar had superior HW to SNES (not even close to N64 though and it is considered fifth gen afaik) but it came out too late and sold about 200k units (lol), so its not very relevant...

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#38 painguy1
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its funny how ppl go crazy over a stupid fanboy's blog with fake specs. RAM is important, WiiU needs more. No one is asking for 500gb of RAM, but a nice 2gb would be good.

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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Which they never really had...

Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

You mean XBOX>>>>Gamecube>>PS2.The XBOX it is more powerful than GC.

The gamecube was more powerful in the cpu dept and faster ram but the xbox had a better gpu and more ram, and gamecube games generally ran at higher framerates than the xbox. They were equal.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]And while SNES did own the Genesis, there was the NEO-GEO console, which was stronger than both.nintendoboy16
The Neo Geo cost $650 and sales were extremely low. I don't think it counts.

That's like saying the SEGA Saturn doesn't count because that sold badly during the 32/64 bit era. That too had extremely low sales.

That's not the same. I think Neo Geo sold around 1 million lifetime units. It was strictly for arcade enthusiasts, not for the larger video game market.
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"] Graphically speaking: SNES>Genesis N64>PS1 Gamecube=XBOX>PS2

You mean XBOX>>>>Gamecube>>PS2.The XBOX it is more powerful than GC.

The gamecube was more powerful in the cpu dept and faster ram but the xbox had a better gpu and more ram, and gamecube games generally ran at higher framerates than the xbox. They were equal.

You are total wrong.Even and the best look XBOXone games,like Doom 3 and Ninja Gaiden,looks better than best Wii games.And you talk about GC...??The Nintendo consoles are a joke....lolol
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Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube has aged extremely well. ActionRemix
It sure has.
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] You mean XBOX>>>>Gamecube>>PS2.The XBOX it is more powerful than GC.

The gamecube was more powerful in the cpu dept and faster ram but the xbox had a better gpu and more ram, and gamecube games generally ran at higher framerates than the xbox. They were equal.

You are total wrong.Even and the best look XBOXone games,like Doom 3 and Ninja Gaiden,looks better than best Wii games.And you talk about GC...??The Nintendo consoles are a joke....lolol

You realize Doom 3 was a PC game first, right? And you only put down Nintendo consoles because you want them to become third party.
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#45 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube has aged extremely well. AtariKidX

It sure has.

Sure......Soul Calibur 2 on GC it looks good on PC emulation.:P

It looks good on the ACTUAL Gamecube hardware itself as well.
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#46 theuncharted34
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I'll tell you one thing, it sure as hell will have more than 768 mb's of ram.

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#47 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"] It sure has.nintendoboy16

Sure......Soul Calibur 2 on GC it looks good on PC emulation.:P

It looks good on the ACTUAL Gamecube hardware itself as well.

....and it looks a lot better on the XBOX.
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#48 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Sure......Soul Calibur 2 on GC it looks good on PC emulation.:P

AtariKidX

It looks good on the ACTUAL Gamecube hardware itself as well.

....and it looks a lot better on the XBOX.

Ugh, why do I even bother...

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using a ibm cpu is stupid.

Why the **** not just use a intel core2 quadcore oh i know why they're cheap bastards rather save money instead of having better performance.

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#50 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Sure......Soul Calibur 2 on GC it looks good on PC emulation.:P

AtariKidX

It looks good on the ACTUAL Gamecube hardware itself as well.

....and it looks a lot better on the XBOX.

How can that be when both consoles were very easy to program for and they're similar in power? And the fact it was an EARLY multiplat?

I remember Soulcal 2. That game was awesome. I only got it because Link was in the game honestly :P But it turned out good.