So the 360 outsold the PS3. How?

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#1 gamefan274
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Ever since the slim came out its been selling like hotcakes. Everyone expected it to outsell the 360 with those black friday sales. How could it not? It sold twice as much as the 360 in one week! Seeing as the NPD thread got 10 pages in under an hour, I want to steal some posters.

1. Did the 360 outsell the PS3 slim because it is loosing momentum? Is it slowing down to the origional PS3 sales and the pricecut is settling in?

2. Did the 360 outsell the PS3 because of Modern Warfare 2? It is the best selling game ever and, since more people have 360s in the US, they would buy the game with the 360. Why would you buy a console for MW2 and pick the PS3? It just makes sense.

3. It could go either way. It was probably a combination of events and an allining of the stars that let this happen.

4. Peh! Sales don't matter. I clicked on this thread because I wanted to make fun of all the people who bring it up! (for the record, they don't matter. But come on, this could be a fun debate. let's go for it!)

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#2 SolidTy
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It's hard to speculate, but obviously the bannings of Xbox 360's (over a Million) right before really helped out.

The $100 Xbox from Walmart helped as well.

I don't care too much, but I know you sales folks have a lot to figure out I 'spose.

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#4 stereointegrity
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where is the option for Banned 360 owners had to buy a new one?
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#5 dog_dirt
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MW2 on the 3660 sold a **** ton, in fact its was 10 **** tons so yeah im guessing that help a little

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3 Things: $100 Arcade MW2 Elite 360 Banned Consoles which caused a bunch of people to get the $100 arcade Genius move by MS, very subtle, very effective.
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#7 OneLazyAsian
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I would say it's a combination of the banned Xbox accounts and the release of CoD. We all knew CoD would sell consoles.

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#8 Floppy_Jim
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MW2 bundles and that $99 deal helped a lot. I don't think the bannings made much difference. Either way I found the best gif for this occasion-

http://i42.tinypic.com/23ihuyo.gif

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#9 gamefan274
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where is the option for Banned 360 owners had to buy a new one?stereointegrity

I honestly was thinking of it before I made the thread, I was going to stick it with the MW2 option, but... I forgot. Just click other.

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#10 johnnyblazed88
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playstation lost alot of ground to xbox this gen. andits all about popularity

its that simple

even when PS3 was beating it itwas by small amounts

just look at how much more MW2 sold on 360. NA is 360 country

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#11 mixmax5
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Banned users probably had a nice impact.

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#12 heysharpshooter
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Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

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#13 Revolution316
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Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

jyoung312

ding ding ding we have a winner

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#14 RedruM_I
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Two words: banned consoles
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#15 gamefan274
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Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

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Could it really be that simple? No no it couldn't be.

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#16 stereointegrity
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Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

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hahahaha what a joke post seriously
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facebook and twitter, obviously

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#19 finalstar2007
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Im guessing its the MW2 push.. will see what happens in This month and also this month will be the release of FFXIII in Japan.. that also will change things

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#20 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

gamefan274

Could it really be that simple? No no it couldn't be.

both consoles are competitivaly priced and feature most of the same games, yet MS was on top again. Clearly, Uncharted 2 did not prove to be the system seller it was hyped to be, much like MGS4. Looks like all the hope of Sony rests with God of War 3 now.

I just think Sony got beat straight up. No cheap tricks or corporate conspiracy. They lost fair and square.

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Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

jyoung312

Lol... What?

Try not to insult an entire nation my friend. It comes off as a little desperate.

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just cuz PS3 is a better value people have to get it?

xbox has taken over NA deal with it, not really cuz of wii

but it took alot from playstation

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Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

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I hate your sig man.. I hate anything and anyone EMO..
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#24 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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I don't think Sony is going to complain about being outsold by Microsoft, when they moved 700k units.
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#25 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]

Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

Revolution316

ding ding ding we have a winner

Yes..calling the consumers in a country dumb - sounds like a real winner to me.

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#26 Squall18
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Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

jyoung312

:cry: I can hear u over my speakers

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#27 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]

Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

Kennysolidsnake

Im even an american and live in the US and i can vouch for this.. Americans are lazy and quite frankly naive and really probably thought MW2 was exclusive to the 360 and Americans are terrible at recognizing value when they see it hence they are too lazy to do research

Ok when they say NA does that include also Canada? just asking :P... anyways i really dont get it.. its either people there are blind or got no taste :P jk .. sigh this is complicated, sony need to do more advertising and put it on TV adds in USA ohw ell will see what happenes this month.. the month of FFXIII

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#28 johnnyblazed88
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do you guys know how many people dont go online or dont have high speed internet?

for those people the 360arcade is prolly the best buy

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#29 ArchaoN
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I actually think this shows that the PS3 will never overtake the 360 this gen. Think about it...The PS3 released Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 this year (2 of their biggest exclusives besides MGS4 last year), according to cows this has been the 360's worst year, the PS3 has just dropped the price of the console $100 and completely remodeled their console, plus they are in the midst of a huge maketiting campagne, and still the 360 outsold them after only 2 months of increased sales for the PS3. And I will tell you right now that there is no way the PS3 will outsell the 360 next holiday, after Reach and Natal come out.
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]

Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

Kennysolidsnake
Im even an american and live in the US and i can vouch for this.. Americans are lazy and quite frankly naive and really probably thought MW2 was exclusive to the 360 and Americans are terrible at recognizing value when they see it hence they are too lazy to do research

I know for example my gf's mom even after borrowing my ps3 went with 360 for the dumb reason that she wanted to not hog up the bluray player in one room w/ games so other ppl couldn't watch movies so she goes out and buys 360 paying out the @$$ for charging stations, live, and no wifi in addition to a bluray player when she could have gotten one machine to do it all or atleast if she was getting a console and a bluray player make the console a ps3 so you can watch the bluray movies in more than one room. Then her son complains that he can't play mw2 online bc 360 has no wifi and would have to pay for live and I just shake my head and can't believe how stupid ppl are.
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#31 mgkennedy5
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I think Modern Warfare was the main factor
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I actually think this shows that the PS3 will never overtake the 360 this gen. Think about it...The PS3 released Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 this year (2 of their biggest exclusives besides MGS4 last year), according to cows this has been the 360's worst year, the PS3 has just dropped the price of the console $100 and completely remodeled their console, plus they are in the midst of a huge maketiting campagne, and still the 360 outsold them after only 2 months of increased sales for the PS3. And I will tell you right now that there is no way the PS3 will outsell the 360 next holiday, after Reach and Natal come out.ArchaoN

You relly shouldnt make it sound like its gonna win worldwide, 360 could still win but in USA.. when you look WorldWide thats a diffrent topic. ps3 is winning in JApan and Eu

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="jyoung312"]

Umm US is full of stupid consumers that don't recognize value when they see it or they were dumb enough to not know that mw2 also came out on ps3.

jyoung312

Im even an american and live in the US and i can vouch for this.. Americans are lazy and quite frankly naive and really probably thought MW2 was exclusive to the 360 and Americans are terrible at recognizing value when they see it hence they are too lazy to do research

I know for example my gf's mom even after borrowing my ps3 went with 360 for the dumb reason that she wanted to not hog up the bluray player in one room w/ games so other ppl couldn't watch movies so she goes out and buys 360 paying out the @$$ for charging stations, live, and no wifi in addition to a bluray player when she could have gotten one machine to do it all or atleast if she was getting a console and a bluray player make the console a ps3 so you can watch the bluray movies in more than one room. Then her son complains that he can't play mw2 online bc 360 has no wifi and would have to pay for live and I just shake my head and can't believe how stupid ppl are.

GASP! Moms don't care about online play??? The horror!

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#34 jyoung312
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I think Modern Warfare was the main factormgkennedy5
It's a game you can play on both systems but then again ppl probably just saw the best buy commercial and did little to no research.
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Desire? Games? Deals? Who knows... who cares?
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#36 Greyfeld
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I'll post here what i posted in the other thread:

I don't have a current gen console yet (hope to have one in a couple weeks), so I'm not exactly on one side or the other. But to be completely honest, if you want to know why Xbox is selling so much better than the PS3, all you have to do is look at XBL. Since multiplayer is becoming such a huge force in the gaming industry, it would only make sense that the console with the larger online community will continue to sell more consoles. XBL has a few years lead over the PSN. Until the status quo changes, Microsoft will continue leading Sony in the console market, sad to say.

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[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]I think Modern Warfare was the main factorjyoung312
It's a game you can play on both systems but then again ppl probably just saw the best buy commercial and did little to no research.

Or realized that it's almost pointless to play a game online if nobody has a headset...

But I guess it's easier to blame it on a commerical and the US being dumb and not doing their research...

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[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]I think Modern Warfare was the main factorbezaire2005

It's a game you can play on both systems but then again ppl probably just saw the best buy commercial and did little to no research.

Or realized that it's almost pointless to play a game online if nobody has a headset...

Really now? Must of been a surprised to all those people that game on the PS3 and PC without headsets. And what game seriously require you to communicate?

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[QUOTE="ArchaoN"]I actually think this shows that the PS3 will never overtake the 360 this gen. Think about it...The PS3 released Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 this year (2 of their biggest exclusives besides MGS4 last year), according to cows this has been the 360's worst year, the PS3 has just dropped the price of the console $100 and completely remodeled their console, plus they are in the midst of a huge maketiting campagne, and still the 360 outsold them after only 2 months of increased sales for the PS3. And I will tell you right now that there is no way the PS3 will outsell the 360 next holiday, after Reach and Natal come out.finalstar2007

You relly shouldnt make it sound like its gonna win worldwide, 360 could still win but in USA.. when you look WorldWide thats a diffrent topic. ps3 is winning in JApan and Eu

Do you have proof that the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe? If not dont make assumptions.
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#40 gamefan274
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[QUOTE="gamefan274"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Maybe because MS offers a better product for gamers? Just a thought...

heysharpshooter

Could it really be that simple? No no it couldn't be.

both consoles are competitivaly priced and feature most of the same games, yet MS was on top again. Clearly, Uncharted 2 did not prove to be the system seller it was hyped to be, much like MGS4. Looks like all the hope of Sony rests with God of War 3 now.

I just think Sony got beat straight up. No cheap tricks or corporate conspiracy. They lost fair and square.

Hold up there I NEVER said they cheaply won the month. I said that I was surprised. I haven't said anything in this thread to make it seem like I'm a PS3 fanboy. I expected the PS3 to outsell the 360. It didn't. I don't know why. I thought it would. I'm curious to see what you guys have to say.

Uncharted 2 was never hyped as a system seller. It was hyped as a AAAE GOTY. It's an amazing game. Look at my avatar, Uncharted 2 is the best game I've played in years and even I know that it wasn't a system seller. It should have been. But it wasn't . God of War had 2 games on the PS2. If that doesn't sell systems not much will.

Yes, Sony lost fair and square. I agree. Don't put words in my mouth.

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3 Things: $100 Arcade MW2 Elite 360 Banned Consoles which caused a bunch of people to get the $100 arcade Genius move by MS, very subtle, very effective.KukicAdo
The $100 arcade was at Wal-Mart. Those sales aren't included in the NPD sales figures. This mess about "banned consoles," just stop it. The people (not fanboys) chose Wii 1st and 360 second. PS3 is an afterthought. Sony fanboys got on their high horse and started screaming victory when the price was dropped to $299. The population still feels we are in a recession and people are still being laid off. So, $299 is still not that great of a deal. Especially when you can get a Wii or 360 for $100 less and the most popular games, the ones that people really know about (MW2, Rock Band, GH etc.) are multiplats, Sony loses. Stop making excuses, the PS3 is a massive failure. Not saying it is a bad system, it is phenomenal, with great exclusives, but it took the near monopoly PS2 created and lost it. Not falling to second, but all the way to third, by alot, and it is not getting it's top spot back. Heck, it can't even move up to 2nd. Play your PS3s, enjoy them and the great games, but come to grips that the Playstation is not the juggernaut it once was.

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I hate your sig man.. I hate anything and anyone EMO..Kennysolidsnake

And yet you have a thread saying your "Quitting gaming" b/c the 360 outsold the PS3. How ******' emo is that?

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Like someone said above, it's because of Facebook and Twitter. :lol:

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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="jyoung312"] It's a game you can play on both systems but then again ppl probably just saw the best buy commercial and did little to no research.OneLazyAsian

Or realized that it's almost pointless to play a game online if nobody has a headset...

Really now? Must of been a surprised to all those people that game on the PS3 and PC without headsets. And what game seriously require you to communicate?

-A LOT more pc gamers have headsets than PS3 gamers. Pairing them together tells me you really don't know much about online gaming...you must have a PS3.

-If you are any decent at online team games, you communicate. Regardless, some people actually like to talk to other people. I know that may come as a surprise to you. Some of us don't only talk to people when "required" to do so.

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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]3 Things: $100 Arcade MW2 Elite 360 Banned Consoles which caused a bunch of people to get the $100 arcade Genius move by MS, very subtle, very effective.tbolt76

The $100 arcade was at Wal-Mart. Those sales aren't included in the NPD sales figures. This mess about "banned consoles," just stop it. The people (not fanboys) chose Wii 1st and 360 second. PS3 is an afterthought. Sony fanboys got on their high horse and started screaming victory when the price was dropped to $299. The population still feels we are in a recession and people are still being laid off. So, $299 is still not that great of a deal. Especially when you can get a Wii or 360 for $100 less and the most popular games, the ones that people really know about (MW2, Rock Band, GH etc.) are multiplats, Sony loses. Stop making excuses, the PS3 is a massive failure. Not saying it is a bad system, it is phenomenal, with great exclusives, but it took the near monopoly PS2 created and lost it. Not falling to second, but all the way to third, by alot, and it is not getting it's top spot back. Heck, it can't even move up to 2nd. Play your PS3s, enjoy them and the great games, but come to grips that the Playstation is not the juggernaut it once was.

how do they not include wal-mart? that doesnt make any sense

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I'm sure the bannings had an impact. However, I won't fault M$ for that, if you're stupid enough to get yourself banned, that's your problem.

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It is the console more people wanted to invested their money in. More people decided they would have more fun with a 360. More people that the game selection was better for the 360.
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[QUOTE="tbolt76"]

[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]3 Things: $100 Arcade MW2 Elite 360 Banned Consoles which caused a bunch of people to get the $100 arcade Genius move by MS, very subtle, very effective.johnnyblazed88

The $100 arcade was at Wal-Mart. Those sales aren't included in the NPD sales figures. This mess about "banned consoles," just stop it. The people (not fanboys) chose Wii 1st and 360 second. PS3 is an afterthought. Sony fanboys got on their high horse and started screaming victory when the price was dropped to $299. The population still feels we are in a recession and people are still being laid off. So, $299 is still not that great of a deal. Especially when you can get a Wii or 360 for $100 less and the most popular games, the ones that people really know about (MW2, Rock Band, GH etc.) are multiplats, Sony loses. Stop making excuses, the PS3 is a massive failure. Not saying it is a bad system, it is phenomenal, with great exclusives, but it took the near monopoly PS2 created and lost it. Not falling to second, but all the way to third, by alot, and it is not getting it's top spot back. Heck, it can't even move up to 2nd. Play your PS3s, enjoy them and the great games, but come to grips that the Playstation is not the juggernaut it once was.

how do they not include wal-mart? that doesnt make any sense

Wal-Mart refuses to release their sales figures.