So this is the amazing damage and physics modelling that Forza has?

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#1 mr-krinkles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIxNv8I3OF4&NR=1

Wow so realistic! :roll:

From what I've seen on youtube, the only difference between GT5 and FM is FM cars get some texture changes when they crash. Lemmings were acting as if the cars get full, realistic destruction modelling or some crap with far superiour physics. Big deal, there really isn't that much of a difference between the two games in this regard. It's a small nook in the overall package.

Sure FM has damage for all cars which is a big advantage, but don't be acting like damage modelling in FM completely leaves GT5 in the dust.

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#2 ShadowriverUB
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Such bugs happens in every game

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#3 chaplainDMK
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Both games seem like they will disapoint a tad bit =(

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#4 Next-Gen-Tec
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That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.
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#5 Nidget
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Its not about the modelling, but the effect it has on the cars handling etc. Gosh, cows are SO OBSESSED over everything graphics and appearance :roll: But yeah, lets base the whole of forza on that one incident that was obviously some sort of bug or glitch.
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#6 Maqda7
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HAHAHAHA :lol: FM better my ***.
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#7 mr-krinkles
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That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.Next-Gen-Tec
That doesn't matter. I'm talking more specifically about the damage modelling. Find me a more suitable representation of the damage/physics in FM3 and my comment will more than likely still apply.
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#8 shawn7324
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Both games seem like they will disapoint a tad bit =(

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Of course they will the expectations on both sides here are crazy.
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#9 cainetao11
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Say what you want, the bottom line is it took the fifth release of a so called sim to include any kind of damage.......that's weak. Even the second Madden release on consoles had injuries.
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#10 devilsoultaker2
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Sad Cows Soo Sad
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#11 heretrix
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It's better than zero. Which is what GT had prior to this point.

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#12 8Tango
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Wait... Why did you just show me a glitch video? A car dosen't get damaged while it's flying through the air, it slammed into the wall and was damaged as such.

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#13 charomid
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It's better than zero. Which is what GT had prior to this point.

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this!

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#14 mayceV
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I'm sorry but this was the most pathetic atempt to bring down FM3 I've ever seen.
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#15 beekayjay
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I'm sorry but this was the most pathetic atempt to bring down FM3 I've ever seen.mayceV
I totally agree. Come on, wise up.
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#16 G-O-M-J
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Forza 2 has better damage than gt5 lol
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#17 sikanderahmed
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ummm thats some silly glitch, forza has much better damage then GT5

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#18 PS3_3DO
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Sad PS3 fanboys! :lol: Have to bring in a video of Forza 2.

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#19 whatisazerg
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OMG.... is this really what cows are passing off as ownage nowadays? REALLY? so pathetic

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#20 Cyberfairy
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lol, cows sure have been grasping for straws lately. First they compare bullshots against ugly, low-rex pics and now they try to use videos of a glitch? :lol:

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#21 6matt6
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lol, cows sure have been grasping for straws lately. First they compare bullshots against ugly, low-rex pics and now they try to use videos of a glitch? :lol:

Cyberfairy
That isn't even a video of FM3.
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#22 ethanradd
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:o that actually looked good....dare I say...on par/better than GT5's damage models?

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So to test it lets get both games going, on the large oval track, get 2 cars going full speed head on into eachother. My bet is the cars in forza will smash, go into the air, and recieve heavy damage, while the cars in GT will bump off of eachother like a ridiculous arcade game bumper car sillyness

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#24 lowe0
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It's possible that this is a bug in the code to constrain the car's behavior in a crash to meet manufacturer's requirements. I could see the anti-rollover code from FM2 causing that, for instance.

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#25 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

lol, cows sure have been grasping for straws lately. First they compare bullshots against ugly, low-rex pics and now they try to use videos of a glitch? :lol:

6matt6
That isn't even a video of FM3.

Apparently TC thinks that doesn't matter. By his logic you can take an older GranTurismo game & compare it against Forza 3 for ownage against the PS3.
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#26 Tjeremiah1988
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jeez, you actually dug up a 2007 video, then talk about Forza's physics modelling knowing that video is clearly a bug/error to somehow use this video to downplay Forza3 :shock:?
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#27 Classic24
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i hate to say it but if Gran Turismo in terms of the series had bad physics then it wouldnt of gotten high scores, thats all but you lying fanboys make up lies

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#28 bobbetybob
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That's Forza 2, Forza 3 will most likely be improved, and also that's still miles better than GT5, mainly because it's not just your door opening up, also when you crash in Forza it slows you down, rather than you just bumping off everything like in GT5.
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#29 clone01
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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.mr-krinkles
That doesn't matter. I'm talking more specifically about the damage modelling. Find me a more suitable representation of the damage/physics in FM3 and my comment will more than likely still apply.

how does it not matter. hey, GOW2 has bad graphics. that's all the PS3 can do?
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#30 x_xion_
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there both good games

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#31 BioShockOwnz
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You can find glitches in every game. Cows really going for the last straws with Halo and Forza hate, eh? Boy oh boy. I thought I had seen it all... I was wrong.

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#32 kate_jones
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forza3 doesnt see to have deformation damage in the video's ive seen, It's nice that it's there but its far from the damage porn in grid

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#33 Verge_6
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It's official folks, FOrza 2 = Forza 3. :lol:

Seriously TC...there's 'not getting off the ground' and then there's 'exploding in the hangar immediately upon engine startup'.

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#34 Tobin09
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Some of these GT zombies, are really really funny.

Thats right up there with editing jaggies into pictures.

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#35 Tobin09
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Its not about the modelling, but the effect it has on the cars handling etc. Gosh, cows are SO OBSESSED over everything graphics and appearance :roll: But yeah, lets base the whole of forza on that one incident that was obviously some sort of bug or glitch. Nidget


OMG.... is this really what cows are passing off as ownage nowadays? REALLY? so pathetic

whatisazerg


lol, cows sure have been grasping for straws lately. First they compare bullshots against ugly, low-rex pics and now they try to use videos of a glitch? :lol:

Cyberfairy


So to test it lets get both games going, on the large oval track, get 2 cars going full speed head on into eachother. My bet is the cars in forza will smash, go into the air, and recieve heavy damage, while the cars in GT will bump off of eachother like a ridiculous arcade game bumper car sillyness

CHRION987


jeez, you actually dug up a 2007 video, then talk about Forza's physics modelling knowing that video is clearly a bug/error to somehow use this video to downplay Forza3 :shock:?Tjeremiah1988

Sums up this thread perfectly.

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#36 PAL360
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I know, TC. Forza3 is almost here, the damage control increases day after day...

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#37 mr-krinkles
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I know, TC. Forza3 is almost here, the damage control increases day after day...

PAL360
You guys are really missing the point but it's my mistake since I used a bug video. You can look for my GT5 posts/threads (check this one out and then call me a Cow) and you'd see that I was butthurt regarding the crappy damage modelling in the game (and also the fact that not all cars have damage modelling). I hadn't seen any FM videos, but somebody made a comment along the lines of, 'Okay, show me the "superior" damage modelling and physics of FM." I thought that was a good point, so i searched for FM3 on youtube and was amazed at how flat out PRIMITIVE the damage modelling was. Seriously, Lemmings act as if it's the second coming when it just seems to be minor texture changes and a bit of distortion when a car gets hit - whoopdiedoo! GT5 may not have that, but it really isn't all that big a deal in the first place, especially when comparing the bigger picture. I checked out the DiRT2 demo today, and holy crap, the damage modelling in that game is actually impressive.
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#38 santoron
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You know, there actually are a couple great videos of FM3 damage modeling already posted. Today. Here. Still on the front page.

Funny how you guys found this thread and can't wait to put your 2 cents in about the injustice being done, but "missed" the thread with the actual damage videos... :roll:

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#39 PS3_CowBoy
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Who said Forza 3 had amazing anything? :?

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#40 xionvalkyrie
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Who said Forza 3 had amazing anything? :?

PS3_CowBoy

It's what all the fanboys have been raving about.

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#41 jessmaster13
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:lol: at the comments under the vid

But on topic, I dont see how bringing up a Forza 2 vid will bring down Forza 3 :?

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#42 Kashiwaba
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Who cares about damage ==; Americans are violent people in action games all they care about is blood and gore and in racing games all they care about is damage.

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#43 Chutebox
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Forza 2 has mediocre damage at best. I don't see why it's touted like it's awesome.
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#45 spike6566
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LOL its so real, that its makes car crashes turn into UFO's lol.
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#46 Leejjohno
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It's better than zero. Which is what GT had prior to this point.

heretrix

I would be inclined to disagree. I was actually distracted by how bad the damage was in Forza 2.

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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.mr-krinkles
That doesn't matter. I'm talking more specifically about the damage modelling. Find me a more suitable representation of the damage/physics in FM3 and my comment will more than likely still apply.

Why bother when you admit Forza2 has better damage than the tacked on POP-OFF-PARTS mode coming in GT5?

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#48 mr-krinkles
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"][QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.vaderhater

That doesn't matter. I'm talking more specifically about the damage modelling. Find me a more suitable representation of the damage/physics in FM3 and my comment will more than likely still apply.

Why bother when you admit Forza2 has better damage than the tacked on POP-OFF-PARTS mode coming in GT5?

Please see my reply on page 2.
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You can only do so much cosmetic damage without manufacturers pulling away. I don't believe major deformation is allowed, crumple zones etc.
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[QUOTE="mr-krinkles"][QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]That is Forza 2, 2 year old game, and it's a glitch.vaderhater

That doesn't matter. I'm talking more specifically about the damage modelling. Find me a more suitable representation of the damage/physics in FM3 and my comment will more than likely still apply.

Why bother when you admit Forza2 has better damage than the tacked on POP-OFF-PARTS mode coming in GT5?

GT5's damage at that point were not the final build and it still beats F3.

:lol: