So this was supposed to be PS3's year?

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#1 KinderChimp
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Yeah sure it got 3 AAAE+ but if Left4Dead gets AAA (Which judging by the dem, it probably will) then that would mean that PS3 only got one more AAAE which is a disgrace since Cows hyped it to kill the 360's library in 2008 when it clearly won't in any way or form. One more AAAE? Yeah go on take that when the 360 will have 7 AAAE by the time Left4Dead comes out. And yeah Console exclusive counts or else LBP won't be a PS3 exclusive because it might come to the PSP which is another console.

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#2 Couth_
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Left4Dead isn't exclusive and it probably won't get AAA anyway
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#3 nervmeister
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Yeah sure it got 3 AAAE+ but if Left4Dead gets AAA (Which judging by the dem, it probably will) then that would mean that PS3 only got one more AAAE which is a disgrace since Cows hyped it to kill the 360's library in 2008 when it clearly won't in any way or form. One more AAAE? Yeah go on take that when the 360 will have 7 AAAE by the time Left4Dead comes out. And yeah Console exclusive counts or else LBP won't be a PS3 exclusive because it might come to the PSP which is another console.

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#4 Floppy_Jim
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Literally every day we get a thread like this. OK you win, it's not the PS3's year.
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#5 IIJuggaNottII
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Great year if your a gamer. Its not over yet, I was one who "thought" that the PS3 would make a strong push. LBP, and Resistance 2 didnt knock out Gears 2 and Fable II. They didnt close the gap on XBL, didnt release Home but let XBOX 360 release the NXE. XBLA is still boss compaired to anything that on PSN. I have both, enjoy the heck out of both....Great Year if your a gamer.

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#6 JIT93
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And yeah Console exclusive counts or else LBP won't be a PS3 exclusive because it might come to the PSP which is another console.

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With that logic, L4D isn't an exclusive becuase its going to the PC

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#7 nervmeister
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Perfect Dark (N64) ended up on Gameboy. Guess that means it's not an exclusive either.

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#8 JetLagz28
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I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds.
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#9 IIJuggaNottII
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I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds. JetLagz28

Explain.

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#10 JIT93
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[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds. IIJuggaNottII

Explain.

In Game XMB, Power Save, Fixing when Bricking, etc.

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#11 farnham
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2009 is the new 2008
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#12 ermacness
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[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds. IIJuggaNottII

Explain.

well, one way was with the games. The 360 did not have as much of a fantastic year as it did in 07, and the ps3 gave the 360 a much harder fight this year vs last year in terms of software.
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#13 Brainkiller05
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Saying it's the PS3s year is quite a difference from "hpying it to kill the 360's library in 2008"

So yea, you even said it in your first post, it is the PS3s year. 

 

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#14 Bentham
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Perfect Dark (N64) ended up on Gameboy. Guess that means it's not an exclusive either.

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Arghh, I hated that game for the GBC. It's was absolutely pitiful.
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You know, even if the PS3 were to vastly improve beyond even where it is now and actually end up having a library that's superior to the 360's and outsell the 360 by the end of this gen... Well, it has stil lost. Coming off the PS2, which *smashed* the original XBOX, and carrying the strongest brand name in gaming, this half-arsed limp it's doing to get a few good games two years into its life and its struggle to keep up with the 360 for sales isn't a victory - it's a stunning defeat. The 360 has notably improved upon the legacy of its predecessor. The PS3 has taken a big steaming dump on what Sony accomplished with the PS and PS2. Even if the PS3 manages to barely edge out the 360 for sales and gets a lineup that, taken in its entirety, competes with the now superior 360 lineup, it would have to do a lot better than that to be a winner this gen

If the PS3 manages to barely out-touch the 360 this gen, which it may or may not do, they won't be doing much celebrating at Sony, and rather dreading what's going to happen next gen in the face of a much stronger XBOX brand and a PS brand that isn't a fraction of what it was coming into the PS3 gen.

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#16 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds. JIT93

Explain.

In Game XMB, Power Save, Fixing when Bricking, etc.

Hmm..thats not leaps and bounds.

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#17 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds. ermacness

Explain.

well, one way was with the games. The 360 did not have as much of a fantastic year as it did in 07, and the ps3 gave the 360 a much harder fight this year vs last year in terms of software.

You have a point. Not as many fantastic games. If were talking games, IMO...they focused on XBLA more. I dont know why, Castle Crashers, Geometry Wars, Braid, and Galaga Legions were some of the exclusive arcade games they had. They didnt release any killer games other than Gears 2. PS3 didnt release any killer games besides MGS4....so with that. IDK what to say. No leaps and bounds.

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#18 Couth_
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PS3 didnt release any killer games besides MGS4....

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Resistance is great, and LBP is phenomenal
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#19 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Perfect Dark (N64) ended up on Gameboy. Guess that means it's not an exclusive either.

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Arghh, I hated that game for the GBC. It's was absolutely pitiful.

Just reminding TC of the staggering gap between console versions and handheld versions.
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#20 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

PS3 didnt release any killer games besides MGS4....

Couth_

Resistance is great, and LBP is phenomenal

Thats whats up. What do you think is great about Resistance, and better yet..whats phenomenal about LBP? Not to knock your opinion...just asking. BTW...I do like both, and they are good Edge to LBP.

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#21 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

PS3 didnt release any killer games besides MGS4....

IIJuggaNottII

Resistance is great, and LBP is phenomenal

Thats whats up. What do you think is great about Resistance, and better yet..whats phenomenal about LBP? Not to knock your opinion...just asking. BTW...I do like both, and they are good Edge to LBP.

Resistance 2 coop is great. You got 3 classes that all play differently. Teamwork and waves of enemies. Intense non stop fun.. LBP is phenomenal. It's so simple yet so fun, and so creative. Constantly makes me say wow.
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#22 Leo-Magic
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yeh this is ps3's year, I think they've tried their best already.
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#23 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Resistance is great, and LBP is phenomenalCouth_

Thats whats up. What do you think is great about Resistance, and better yet..whats phenomenal about LBP? Not to knock your opinion...just asking. BTW...I do like both, and they are good Edge to LBP.

Resistance 2 coop is great. You got 3 ****s that all play differently. Teamwork and waves of enemies. Intense non stop fun.. LBP is phenomenal. It's so simple yet so fun, and so creative. Constantly makes me say wow.

I read that alot (Resistance 2 online). I played it and I really, really didnt enjoy it. It was like chaos...to much going on, and everyone sprinting. Now did I give it a chance to grow on me? NO....I should but I cant really stand Halo 3 online either. Its just not my thing, I like the scaled down 5 vs. 5 of gears...or horde that does require teamwork too. Resistance online is just not my thing. I enjoy the weapons of the single player and the waves of enemies....nice gameplay.

As for LBP..they advertised basically a game where you can do basically ANYTHING...and they came thru with that. Its a wonderful game, now that I have it and I played a few user created boards IDK. Its like The devs are saying to themselves "c'mon users puuuuleease do something with this, make boards..more boards". I dont want to create a level. So now, I just visit it to play other maps that end and then I'll play another one. Okay...none of the levels are as good as the ones that are on the game. Then I looked on the PSN and they are asking you to purchase a little outfit for your sackperson...c'mon. Is that going to enhance my gameplay while playing it?

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#24 ermacness
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You know, even if the PS3 were to vastly improve beyond even where it is now and actually end up having a library that's superior to the 360's and outsell the 360 by the end of this gen... Well, it has stil lost. Coming off the PS2, which *smashed* the original XBOX, and carrying the strongest brand name in gaming, this half-arsed limp it's doing to get a few good games two years into its life and its struggle to keep up with the 360 for sales isn't a victory - it's a stunning defeat. The 360 has notably improved upon the legacy of its predecessor. The PS3 has taken a big steaming dump on what Sony accomplished with the PS and PS2. Even if the PS3 manages to barely edge out the 360 for sales and gets a lineup that, taken in its entirety, competes with the now superior 360 lineup, it would have to do a lot better than that to be a winner this gen

If the PS3 manages to barely out-touch the 360 this gen, which it may or may not do, they won't be doing much celebrating at Sony, and rather dreading what's going to happen next gen in the face of a much stronger XBOX brand and a PS brand that isn't a fraction of what it was coming into the PS3 gen.

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looking at it that way, yeah, but looking at it that the 360 had a year head start, the ps3 cost more than the 360 majority of this gen, the 360 had stronger support from 3rd party devs, the 360 having 2 major IPs (gears and halo) that it seems that nothing from the ps3 camp can't touch, the ps3 loosing all of it's exclusives, and the 360 being more of a video gaming machine more than that of the ps3. If the ps3 do win over the 360 this gen, looking at it like this, would be a huge success
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#25 EVOLV3
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:? If L4D scores AAA, then its another great Multiplat game, I dont see how it relates to the PS3s year in anyway since its multiplat. Are lems now trying to add multiplat games to their 2008 lineup?
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#26 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]
[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]I would argue that most of the advantages enjoyed by the 360 have weakened. The Playstation 3 on the other hand has improved by leaps and bounds.
JIT93


Explain.



In Game XMB, Power Save, Fixing when Bricking, etc.



That doesnt seem like leaps and bounds to me. And including etc. in your list does nothing. I mean I could easily counter by simply saying that the 360 totally improved because of etc.
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#28 JIT93
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Anyone who owns a ps3 is retarded!bodystupid
Just like level 1 posters :roll:
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#29 JIT93
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[QUOTE="JIT93"]
[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

Explain.

Fumpa


In Game XMB, Power Save, Fixing when Bricking, etc.



That doesnt seem like leaps and bounds to me. And including etc. in your list does nothing. I mean I could easily counter by simply saying that the 360 totally improved because of etc.

I'm too lazy to find my list, but cmon, compare it to 2007, if you can't see the "Leaps and Bounds" then you are just a blind fanboy
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LBP for the PSP wont be the same as the PS3 version l, its like Resistance Retribution for the PSP. It doesnt even have the same developer as the PS3 version.
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#31 ReverseCycology
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When the Wii hardware is first place again and when the 360 software is first place again and when the PS3 is in last place for both hardware and software I don't think you can call 2008 the year of the PS3.

 

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#32 Koalakommander
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If you didn't think this was a good year for the PS3 then you must live in a cave -- with no internet connection. Which doesn't make sense because you are posting on GS forums.

 

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#33 DavidooThe3rd
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[QUOTE="KinderChimp"]

Yeah sure it got 3 AAAE+ but if Left4Dead gets AAA (Which judging by the dem, it probably will) then that would mean that PS3 only got one more AAAE which is a disgrace since Cows hyped it to kill the 360's library in 2008 when it clearly won't in any way or form. One more AAAE? Yeah go on take that when the 360 will have 7 AAAE by the time Left4Dead comes out. And yeah Console exclusive counts or else LBP won't be a PS3 exclusive because it might come to the PSP which is another console.

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Damage control.

 

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#34 LastRedMage
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MGS4 10/10

Every one with a computer can download left 4 dead off of steam if they wanted to.  Even if you counted it  you forgot about Valkyria Chronicles which judgeing by its reviews so far could get AAA here :P

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#35 FirstDiscovery
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With Banjo, Lips and Naruto still to go (all AA potential), the 360 is far from showing what it has yet to offer
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With Banjo, Lips and Naruto still to go (all AA potential), the 360 is far from showing what it has yet to offerFirstDiscovery
There is no way you are counting a singing game.  thats kind of sad :(

and Naruto wtf

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#37 DavidooThe3rd
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Even if LBP comes out for the psp it will still be an exclusive. The name may not be, but the game itself will be. They are not porting the game over to the PSP but instead designing a much less leniar version to fit on a handheld console. So LBP there for is still an exclusive (the game itself).

 

Left 4 dead on the other hand is getting PORTED to another media source, the pc. There for it is in no way, shape, or form an exclusive.

 

While the logic that it is a game that the 360 gets over the ps3 still stands, the OP logic is fail about the game LBP not being an exclusive to the ps3 just because a new version is comeing out, eventualy.

 

While the smarter posters here will get what im saying right off the bat, i am interested in how the the posters who can not deal with logic will respond(I.e fanboys)

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#38 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="KinderChimp"]

And yeah Console exclusive counts or else LBP won't be a PS3 exclusive because it might come to the PSP which is another console.

JIT93

With that logic, L4D isn't an exclusive becuase its going to the PC

I think that was his point...
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:? If L4D scores AAA, then its another great Multiplat game, I dont see how it relates to the PS3s year in anyway since its multiplat. Are lems now trying to add multiplat games to their 2008 lineup?EVOLV3
Instead of saying this why not just say "Yes you are right. The 360 will have another AAA title in their libary that is not on the PS3." Instead of using the PC as a crutch for your ignorant argument.
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#40 I_pWnzz_YoU
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Oh snap! Left4Dead is on PC. You know what that means, it's not 360 exclusive. And that means your argument is invalid.
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

Thats whats up. What do you think is great about Resistance, and better yet..whats phenomenal about LBP? Not to knock your opinion...just asking. BTW...I do like both, and they are good Edge to LBP.

IIJuggaNottII

Resistance 2 coop is great. You got 3 ****s that all play differently. Teamwork and waves of enemies. Intense non stop fun.. LBP is phenomenal. It's so simple yet so fun, and so creative. Constantly makes me say wow.

As for LBP..they advertised basically a game where you can do basically ANYTHING...and they came thru with that. Its a wonderful game, now that I have it and I played a few user created boards IDK. Its like The devs are saying to themselves "c'mon users puuuuleease do something with this, make boards..more boards". I dont want to create a level. So now, I just visit it to play other maps that end and then I'll play another one. Okay...none of the levels are as good as the ones that are on the game. Then I looked on the PSN and they are asking you to purchase a little outfit for your sackperson...c'mon. Is that going to enhance my gameplay while playing it?

You have to have some sense of imagination to play LBP and like it. Obviously you don't.

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#42 I_pWnzz_YoU
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Anyone who owns a ps3 is retarded!bodystupid

Level 1 and 1 post. I smell a troll.

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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Resistance 2 coop is great. You got 3 ****s that all play differently. Teamwork and waves of enemies. Intense non stop fun.. LBP is phenomenal. It's so simple yet so fun, and so creative. Constantly makes me say wow.I_pWnzz_YoU

As for LBP..they advertised basically a game where you can do basically ANYTHING...and they came thru with that. Its a wonderful game, now that I have it and I played a few user created boards IDK. Its like The devs are saying to themselves "c'mon users puuuuleease do something with this, make boards..more boards". I dont want to create a level. So now, I just visit it to play other maps that end and then I'll play another one. Okay...none of the levels are as good as the ones that are on the game. Then I looked on the PSN and they are asking you to purchase a little outfit for your sackperson...c'mon. Is that going to enhance my gameplay while playing it?

You have to have some sense of imagination to play LBP and like it. Obviously you don't.

Right. I have no sense of imagination. smh. Gosh. How long did it take you to think of that? Really?

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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:? If L4D scores AAA, then its another great Multiplat game, I dont see how it relates to the PS3s year in anyway since its multiplat. Are lems now trying to add multiplat games to their 2008 lineup?BumFluff122
Instead of saying this why not just say "Yes you are right. The 360 will have another AAA title in their libary that is not on the PS3." Instead of using the PC as a crutch for your ignorant argument.



:| Instead of saying "The PC doesnt count because it means that a game on the 360 is multiplat" accept the fact that the game is on 2 platforms.
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I think the problem people are haveing is staying on topic. When talking about exclusives Left 4 Dead is not one. When talking about which console has better games that the other does not, then Left 4 dead can be included.

 

Fanboyism on both side's

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#46 Mandingo101
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if it can be played on another system and it is similar if not better than it isnt exclusive. as in, if LBP did end up on psp, it would not even be the same game, it would be a totally different game altogether and would require tons of cuts, who knows it could end up being a fully 2d cell shaded game... l4d on pc will perform and look best  on pc of course and it is the same core game if we discount the extra pixels and effects, etc.

 

there is some muddy waters maybe,  we can look at it like farcry, on pc it was a different game than the xbox1 version, thats mostly because it was a different team though and nobody wanted to bother porting farcry in all it's glory. but there is a huge gulf betwen ps3 and psp thats not really debatable.

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#47 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]With Banjo, Lips and Naruto still to go (all AA potential), the 360 is far from showing what it has yet to offerLastRedMage

There is no way you are counting a singing game.  thats kind of sad :(

and Naruto wtf

The first Naruto was great and got 8.3 on IGN, and 7.5 here, it has a shot at least at AA

As for Lips, the developers are excellent, and on that reason it might just hit AA, Scene It? did

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#48 I_pWnzz_YoU
Member since 2007 • 6032 Posts
[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

As for LBP..they advertised basically a game where you can do basically ANYTHING...and they came thru with that. Its a wonderful game, now that I have it and I played a few user created boards IDK. Its like The devs are saying to themselves "c'mon users puuuuleease do something with this, make boards..more boards". I dont want to create a level. So now, I just visit it to play other maps that end and then I'll play another one. Okay...none of the levels are as good as the ones that are on the game. Then I looked on the PSN and they are asking you to purchase a little outfit for your sackperson...c'mon. Is that going to enhance my gameplay while playing it?

IIJuggaNottII

You have to have some sense of imagination to play LBP and like it. Obviously you don't.

Right. I have no sense of imagination. smh. Gosh. How long did it take you to think of that? Really?

Couple seconds. Why do you ask?

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#49 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

You have to have some sense of imagination to play LBP and like it. Obviously you don't.

I_pWnzz_YoU

Right. I have no sense of imagination. smh. Gosh. How long did it take you to think of that? Really?

Couple seconds. Why do you ask?

Ahh, figures.....Carry On.

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#50 Nike_Air
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This was also supposed to be the 360's year again , on lockdown if you will. That didn't happen. As it stands right now , the ps3 had the better results at Gamepsot so far (slightly) and clearly the better year at Gamerankings with exclusives games. There was a huge base of people that said that it wouldn't happen for the ps3. They got owned , and now they are in full damage control mode. Don't fret 360 owners , you still had an ok year. Be happy with that and hope next year bring you better results.