http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F3_xTLuWxY
Nintendo did? I didnt Know that.
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Really? Didnt know that. Learn something new everyday.Sony created the playstation one, but it was nintendo who came up with the name "playstation."
matthewd49
yeah as i recall the cd add on for the snes was supposed to originally be called the "nintendo playstation."
"The first conceptions of the PlayStation date back to 1986 in Japan where it was created. Nintendo had been attempting to work with disc technology since the Famicom, but the medium had problems. Its rewritable magnetic nature could be easily erased (thus leading to a lack of durability), and the discs were a copyright infringement danger. Consequently, when details of CDROM/XA (an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual, and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously) came out, Nintendo was interested. CD-ROM/XA was being simultaneously developed by Sony and Philips. Nintendo approached Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on, tentatively titled the "SNES-CD". A contract was signed, and work began. Nintendo's choice of Sony was due to a prior dealing: Ken Kutaragi, the person who would later be dubbed "The Father of the Ring", was the individual who had sold Nintendo on using the Sony SPC-700 processor for use as the eight-channel ADPCM sound synthesis set in the Super Famicom/PNES console through an impressive demonstration of the processor's capabilities.[13]
Sony also planned to develop a Super Famicom-compatible, Sony-branded console, but one which would be more of a home entertainment system playing both Super Nintendo cartridges and a new CD format which Sony would design. This was also to be the format used in SNES-CD discs, giving a large degree of control to Sony despite Nintendo's leading position in the video gaming market.
The SNES-CD was to be announced at the May 1991 Consumer Electronics Show (CES). However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNES CD-ROM format. Yamauchi decided that the contract was totally unacceptable and he secretly canceled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Instead of announcing a partnership between Sony and Nintendo, at 9 a.m. the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that Nintendo was now allied with Philips, and Nintendo was planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had, unbeknownst to Sony, flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.
After the collapse of the joint project, Sony considered halting their research, but ultimately the company decided to use what they had developed so far and make it into a complete, stand-alone console. As a result, Nintendo filed a lawsuit claiming breach of contract and attempted, in US federal court, to obtain an injunction against the release of the PlayStation, on the grounds that Nintendo owned the name. The federal judge presiding over the case denied the injunction and, in October 1991, the first incarnation of the new PlayStation was revealed. However, it is theorized that only 200 or so of these machines were ever produced
By the end of 1992, Sony and Nintendo reached a deal whereby the "PlayStation" would still have a port for SNES games, but Nintendo would own the rights and receive the bulk of the profits from the games, and the SNES would continue to use the Sony-designed audio chip. However, Sony decided in early 1993 to begin reworking the "PlayStation" concept to target a new generation of hardware and software. As part of this process the SNES cartridge port was dropped and the space between the names was removed, thereby ending Nintendo's involvement with the project."
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No, Nintendo screwed Sony over by making a deal with Philips. Look it up.I don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
topgunmv
[QUOTE="topgunmv"]No, Nintendo screwed Sony over by making a deal with Philips. Look it up.I don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
MrFanboy
I think you need to re-read what I wrote.
He is wrong. Sony did'nt back out of the deal with Nintendo, Nintendo did. Nintendo went to Phillips or something instead. That's why Sony chose to develop they're own console. Sony made they're own consoles with hardware from them selfs and other companys, but not from Nintendo.
Posting fanboy videos like this is just stupid.
[QUOTE="topgunmv"]No, Nintendo screwed Sony over by making a deal with Philips. Look it up.I don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
MrFanboy
if i remember correctly, a few days before things were to go official, Nintendo noticed a part in the contract that read Sony has some sort of rights to all of their exisiting games (NES, SNES, Gameboy etc).
No, Nintendo screwed Sony over by making a deal with Philips. Look it up.[QUOTE="MrFanboy"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]
I don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
topgunmv
I think you need to re-read what I wrote.
I am really bad at detecting sarcasm :(No, Nintendo screwed Sony over by making a deal with Philips. Look it up.[QUOTE="MrFanboy"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]
I don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
shutdown_202
if i remember correctly, a few days before things were to go official, Nintendo noticed a part in the contract that read Sony has some sort of rights to all of their exisiting games (NES, SNES, Gameboy etc).
Not really but you're close.
It's easiest to say that they both tried to screw each other at the same time. There was no victim in that deal.
"The first conceptions of the PlayStation date back to 1986 in Japan where it was created. Nintendo had been attempting to work with disc technology since the Famicom, but the medium had problems. Its rewritable magnetic nature could be easily erased (thus leading to a lack of durability), and the discs were a copyright infringement danger. Consequently, when details of CDROM/XA (an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual, and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously) came out, Nintendo was interested. CD-ROM/XA was being simultaneously developed by Sony and Philips. Nintendo approached Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on, tentatively titled the "SNES-CD". A contract was signed, and work began. Nintendo's choice of Sony was due to a prior dealing: Ken Kutaragi, the person who would later be dubbed "The Father of the Ring", was the individual who had sold Nintendo on using the Sony SPC-700 processor for use as the eight-channel ADPCM sound synthesis set in the Super Famicom/PNES console through an impressive demonstration of the processor's capabilities.[13]
Sony also planned to develop a Super Famicom-compatible, Sony-branded console, but one which would be more of a home entertainment system playing both Super Nintendo cartridges and a new CD format which Sony would design. This was also to be the format used in SNES-CD discs, giving a large degree of control to Sony despite Nintendo's leading position in the video gaming market.
The SNES-CD was to be announced at the May 1991 Consumer Electronics Show (CES). However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNES CD-ROM format. Yamauchi decided that the contract was totally unacceptable and he secretly canceled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Instead of announcing a partnership between Sony and Nintendo, at 9 a.m. the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that Nintendo was now allied with Philips, and Nintendo was planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had, unbeknownst to Sony, flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature—one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.
After the collapse of the joint project, Sony considered halting their research, but ultimately the company decided to use what they had developed so far and make it into a complete, stand-alone console. As a result, Nintendo filed a lawsuit claiming breach of contract and attempted, in US federal court, to obtain an injunction against the release of the PlayStation, on the grounds that Nintendo owned the name. The federal judge presiding over the case denied the injunction and, in October 1991, the first incarnation of the new PlayStation was revealed. However, it is theorized that only 200 or so of these machines were ever produced
By the end of 1992, Sony and Nintendo reached a deal whereby the "PlayStation" would still have a port for SNES games, but Nintendo would own the rights and receive the bulk of the profits from the games, and the SNES would continue to use the Sony-designed audio chip. However, Sony decided in early 1993 to begin reworking the "PlayStation" concept to target a new generation of hardware and software. As part of this process the SNES cartridge port was dropped and the space between the names was removed, thereby ending Nintendo's involvement with the project."
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sayonara89
So Basically, it is true. wow you learn something everyday
[QUOTE="sayonara89"]
"The first conceptions of the PlayStation date back to 1986 in Japan where it was created. Nintendo had been attempting to work with disc technology since the Famicom, but the medium had problems. Its rewritable magnetic nature could be easily erased (thus leading to a lack of durability), and the discs were a copyright infringement danger. Consequently, when details of CDROM/XA (an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual, and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously) came out, Nintendo was interested. CD-ROM/XA was being simultaneously developed by Sony and Philips. Nintendo approached Sony to develop a CD-ROM add-on, tentatively titled the "SNES-CD". A contract was signed, and work began. Nintendo's choice of Sony was due to a prior dealing: Ken Kutaragi, the person who would later be dubbed "The Father of the Ring", was the individual who had sold Nintendo on using the Sony SPC-700 processor for use as the eight-channel ADPCM sound synthesis set in the Super Famicom/PNES console through an impressive demonstration of the processor's capabilities.[13]
Sony also planned to develop a Super Famicom-compatible, Sony-branded console, but one which would be more of a home entertainment system playing both Super Nintendo cartridges and a new CD format which Sony would design. This was also to be the format used in SNES-CD discs, giving a large degree of control to Sony despite Nintendo's leading position in the video gaming market.
The SNES-CD was to be announced at the May 1991 Consumer Electronics Show (CES). However, when Hiroshi Yamauchi read the original 1988 contract between Sony and Nintendo, he realized that the earlier agreement essentially handed Sony complete control over any and all titles written on the SNES CD-ROM format. Yamauchi decided that the contract was totally unacceptable and he secretly canceled all plans for the joint Nintendo-Sony SNES CD attachment. Instead of announcing a partnership between Sony and Nintendo, at 9 a.m. the day of the CES, Nintendo chairman Howard Lincoln stepped onto the stage and revealed that Nintendo was now allied with Philips, and Nintendo was planning on abandoning all the previous work Nintendo and Sony had accomplished. Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa had, unbeknownst to Sony, flown to Philips headquarters in Europe and formed an alliance of a decidedly different nature-one that would give Nintendo total control over its licenses on Philips machines.
After the collapse of the joint project, Sony considered halting their research, but ultimately the company decided to use what they had developed so far and make it into a complete, stand-alone console. As a result, Nintendo filed a lawsuit claiming breach of contract and attempted, in US federal court, to obtain an injunction against the release of the PlayStation, on the grounds that Nintendo owned the name. The federal judge presiding over the case denied the injunction and, in October 1991, the first incarnation of the new PlayStation was revealed. However, it is theorized that only 200 or so of these machines were ever produced
By the end of 1992, Sony and Nintendo reached a deal whereby the "PlayStation" would still have a port for SNES games, but Nintendo would own the rights and receive the bulk of the profits from the games, and the SNES would continue to use the Sony-designed audio chip. However, Sony decided in early 1993 to begin reworking the "PlayStation" concept to target a new generation of hardware and software. As part of this process the SNES cartridge port was dropped and the space between the names was removed, thereby ending Nintendo's involvement with the project."
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calcal404
So Basically, it is true. wow you learn something everyday
Hmm no? Nintendo approached Sony to work on CD based technology for the SNES, Sony created the PS.Reading comprehension and fact double-checking ftw.
itt was panasonic/ matsushitaHe is wrong. Sony did'nt back out of the deal with Nintendo, Nintendo did. Nintendo went to Phillips or something instead. That's why Sony chose to develop they're own console. Sony made they're own consoles with hardware from them selfs and other companys, but not from Nintendo.
Posting fanboy videos like this is just stupid.
Martin_G_N
So is the PlayStation the bastard child of Nintendo or what?Salt_The_Friesnot really, nintendo approached SONy to create a cd drive for the SNES, nintendo then decided against it so SONY took what they had built, slapped the playstation name on it and sold it as a console, fair play to them if you ask me, then nintendo got a grump on about it ' we didn't want it so nobody else should have it' sort of thing and as far as i am aware nintendo lost anyway
So is the PlayStation the bastard child of Nintendo or what?Salt_The_Fries
Not really Bastard child, Because it had a father called Sony.
[QUOTE="Sollet"]
Heh watch these instead:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9TbVyNAWQI
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u9EmmPbyhQ&feature=related
Nice :)
He is wrong. Sony did'nt back out of the deal with Nintendo, Nintendo did. Nintendo went to Phillips or something instead. That's why Sony chose to develop they're own console. Sony made they're own consoles with hardware from them selfs and other companys, but not from Nintendo.
Posting fanboy videos like this is just stupid.
How is the guy a fanboy?[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]So is the PlayStation the bastard child of Nintendo or what?delta3074not really, nintendo approached SONy to create a cd drive for the SNES, nintendo then decided against it so SONY took what they had built, slapped the playstation name on it and sold it as a console, fair play to them if you ask me, then nintendo got a grump on about it ' we didn't want it so nobody else should have it' sort of thing and as far as i am aware nintendo lost anyway Almost correct, they at first had the machine wiht the snes cart and cd it was supposed to come out in 91/92 but only made 200 and never launched, instead the redid the entire project from scatch and used the Playstation name.. it's all here in PS history: (like was posted earlier) Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9TbVyNAWQI Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u9EmmPbyhQ&feature=related
it's sad to see two companies that worked together.
Are now fighting against each other.
Imagine. nintendo+ Sony.
You would have.... Some sort of wand thing that is sensor movement..... Some sort of...... Control that responds to your movement...
Would be called the Sony cube or the ps3 stick...
didnt watch, but thats like saying nintendo stole the audio chip sony developed for the snes reallyI don't know whats worse, that he took 10 minutes to make that, or that I spent 4 watching it until he started doing revisionist history and said it was sony who back-stabbed nintendo with the cd stuff they were collaborating on.
topgunmv
Sony and Nintendo were once teamed up. Sony wanted to make the next Nintendo system at the time a disc-based console and Nintendo refused. Sony then parted ways with Nintendo over the disagreement to make their own console, the Playstation.
Sony would end up creating the Playstation and Nintendo would end up making the Nintendo 64.
sony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSstereointegrity
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]sony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSsikanderahmed
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
who knows what the contact stated. for all we know they could have given up rights to their games like some claimed.[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]sony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSsikanderahmed
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
sorry other way around lol nintendo went to sony...and yes it was the biggest mistake eversony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSstereointegrity
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
who knows what the contact stated. for all we know they could have given up rights to their games like some claimed. no the problem was that it was an add on, and sony had almost complete control over games made for that add on. So, nintendo accidentally put themselves in a situation where they had to rip up that contract. It was like 2 different consoles hooked up to each other! Sony should have been reasonable and agreed to a new arrangement[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]sony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSsikanderahmed
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
well the story is more complicated then that.
if you want the full story here it is burp
so basicly sony wanted to make an own console after working with sega, they wanted to use sega and snes info to make the PS
nintendo didnt want to work with them.
but nintendo was pritty mean for the stuff on the electornic arts convention
[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]sony went to nintendo with its cd add on and ninty said no so sony made the PSHalf-Way
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
well the story is more complicated then that.
if you want the full story here it is burp
so basicly sony wanted to make an own console after working with sega, they wanted to use sega and snes info to make the PS
nintendo didnt want to work with them.
but nintendo was pritty mean for the stuff on the electornic arts convention
Sony isn't exactly the nicest company in the world :P[QUOTE="Half-Way"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]
probably the biggest mistake nintendo ever made lol
Theguy56
well the story is more complicated then that.
if you want the full story here it is burp
so basicly sony wanted to make an own console after working with sega, they wanted to use sega and snes info to make the PS
nintendo didnt want to work with them.
but nintendo was pritty mean for the stuff on the electornic arts convention
Sony isn't exactly the nicest company in the world :Pno but still.
i guess sonys payback for nintendos behavior is to steal every good idea they have and put them on their console :P
Sony isn't exactly the nicest company in the world :P[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]
well the story is more complicated then that.
if you want the full story here it is burp
so basicly sony wanted to make an own console after working with sega, they wanted to use sega and snes info to make the PS
nintendo didnt want to work with them.
but nintendo was pritty mean for the stuff on the electornic arts convention
Half-Way
no but still.
i guess sonys payback for nintendos behavior is to steal every good idea they have and put them on their console :P
Haha true but hey, it created competition.So technically nintendo has rights over the name playstation?
Da** nintendo is video game god.
falldogout
Not at all. Ninty backed out of their deal with Sony, or something like that, so Sony maintained all rights to it. Hence, the creation Playstation.
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