So what do we get for the $299.00?!! looks like another price cut coming soon

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD -Proprietary meaning you can not just plug in any HD that fits it must be a MSaproved device!
2. MS ports - Proprietary meaning its not like USB only MS accepted devices can be pluged in!
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead

MS will get a Camera to use as a controler. As games come out we will see how this is used differently from PS2 games that used the Eyetoy.

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily replaced with a Laptop HD prices and sizes are easily found on internet!
2. USB ports PC standard. Not Proprietary
3. Free PSN .... FREE...
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Will see how it works and how games use it!

I have changed the coments and stayed more with just the FACTS... so to calm some peoples complaints. NOW The facts have not changed so what do you have to say???

Anyone who has a brain knows the PS3 is the best deal

Anyone who has a brain knows the PS3 is the best deal

whitetiger3521

Anyone who has a brain knows the PS3 is the best deal

whitetiger3521

Even at $400 the PS3 was considered the most valuable console, why are we whipping this horse (hell more like SKELETON of a horse)

Theres a lot of "if"s in your 360 list.

and you only compared 360's cons to ps3 pros. Biased.

So, I noticed you were missing some of the "pros" of the Xbox 360.

Like people have already said: Biased.

Biased much?x360owna

The Elite and the PS3 were the same price before the price drop and the 360 still sold more and now with the price drop both are still the same price.

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

Ravenlore_basic

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

Ravenlore_basic

easily the most biased list I have ever seen in my life. Good job taking all the cons of xbox 360 and putting it up against what I assume is the pros of ps3. Also, your number 2 for xbox 360 doesn't make sense. You can plug anything in and play with any game. For ipod download a patch that's FREE and use ipod. Also, you can use custom soundtracks with ANY games.

Ps3 getting updated wiimote... been there, done that

5) why would anyone wanna use a computer with their GAMING console when even some netbooks will have better power for the tasks???

Theres a lot of "if"s in your 360 list.

and you only compared 360's cons to ps3 pros. Biased.

[QUOTE="x360owna"]Biased much?Ravenlore_basic

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

DarkGamer007

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

If you're speaking hardware only, Ps3 is the obvious choice.

Other than hardware, no choices are obvious.

The Elite and the PS3 were the same price before the price drop and the 360 still sold more and now with the price drop both are still the same price.

gago-gago

PS3 hands down, and I'll be joining the few PS3 adapters after the price cut

I agree, the ps3 looks so much better to buy right now. It offers a lot more.

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

Midnightshade29

easily the most biased list I have ever seen in my life. Good job taking all the cons of xbox 360 and putting it up against what I assume is the pros of ps3. Also, your number 2 for xbox 360 doesn't make sense. You can plug anything in and play with any game. For ipod download a patch that's FREE and use ipod. Also, you can use custom soundtracks with ANY games.

Ps3 getting updated wiimote... been there, done that

5) why would anyone wanna use a computer with their GAMING console when even some netbooks will have better power for the tasks???

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

Midnightshade29

easily the most biased list I have ever seen in my life. Good job taking all the cons of xbox 360 and putting it up against what I assume is the pros of ps3. Also, your number 2 for xbox 360 doesn't make sense. You can plug anything in and play with any game. For ipod download a patch that's FREE and use ipod. Also, you can use custom soundtracks with ANY games.

Ps3 getting updated wiimote... been there, done that

5) why would anyone wanna use a computer with their GAMING console when even some netbooks will have better power for the tasks???

-sigh-

1) The failure rate is not 50%, that poll was crap, and innacurrate nothing more about that.

2) There is no longer a download size limit for XBLA games.

3) You people act like the ads are plastered everywhere, when they aren't, and they are ads for things mostley gaming related anyways. (Like New DLC content for game X)

4) Lack of Dedicated Servers and player size has nothing to do with the Xbox 360 or Xbox Live, it has to do with the developer and peer to peer isn't laggy at all unless the developer set up how to pick a host wrong. :|

5) Why are you getting into rip-offs? Sony ripped off the anolouge stick, the PS3 logo button from the Xbox 360, ect. :|

6) The Xbox 360 doesn't scratch disks unless you move the system while a game is running. :|

7) Halo is not being milked, I'm sorry it isn't. Besides all the Halo games to come out have been great so who is complaining?

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

Xbox 360

1. 120 GB HD,- if ya want to switch you have to pay $$$ extra for an official MS HD!!!
2. MS ports - you just can't plug any device into the Xbox 360 Need to pay $$$ to MS first
3. Live for $50.00 a year. Life of console if 6 years = $300.00 or another console!!!!

1. No WiFi need to pay $$$
2. HD-DVD is dead ...so... yea stream but sometimes I like to own a few movies and just press play
3. Will get updated Eyetoy... been there done that!!! ( lest compare prices when they come out)

PS3

1. 120 GB HD Easily and cheaply replaced with much bigger Laptop HD for little money No Propriety here
2. USB ports just plug and play if the game supports it!! WOW =^)
3. Free PSN .... FREE... some people say its not as good because of chat but it works well for all else.
4. Built in WiFi
5. online computer with unbuntu (FREE) FOR ONLINE USE. like Hulu, Ebay, HERE (Gamespot), chat... ETC (not to replace a computer that is being used for ... stuff)

will get Eyetoy and Wand!!!! Though they had eyetoy last gen with wand it looks good

Midnightshade29

easily the most biased list I have ever seen in my life. Good job taking all the cons of xbox 360 and putting it up against what I assume is the pros of ps3. Also, your number 2 for xbox 360 doesn't make sense. You can plug anything in and play with any game. For ipod download a patch that's FREE and use ipod. Also, you can use custom soundtracks with ANY games.

Ps3 getting updated wiimote... been there, done that

5) why would anyone wanna use a computer with their GAMING console when even some netbooks will have better power for the tasks???

edit: also, match sizes has nothing to do with the system, its design choice, ps3 shoots for large frantic games, and 360 shoots for smaller games makes communicating and playing with the entire team fun instead of a run n gun fest. Also peer 2 peer vs dedicated servers are again, left up to the dev's choice, live actually has more functions built into it, like voice chat, a game being made on ps3 has to have voice chat built into it where 360 can just use the live service it just add it to the game.

xbox sold like garbage, no one expects any one to support a console that isn't selling well.

milkage of halo is acceptaple imo, this is not a con, its just you don't like halo, but it actually has a rich universy and i am extremely excited about reach.

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

DarkGamer007

1. Consumers should be able to choose how much HDD space they want to have. I have a 320gb HDD, its about 65% full and it basically stores every piece of digital entertainment media I own. PS3 would not be my media hub without it.

2. Cannot comment on this.

3. Free is still free. Even if it is 'only' $30, that is still an extra cost added to the 360. To get a similar online experience on PS3, it would cost nothing on top of the $300. If you are interested in online and are looking at a 360, the RRP should be set to $330 then.

4. Wireless is a huge convenience. It basically means anyone can have online functionality anywhere in their home right out of the box, and at no extra charge. On 360, if you want a wireless connection (who doesn't), you would have to pay extra. Your grounded next to the router with the 360... well, you could get a long ethernet cable and drill through walls... but then you have to buy a long ethernet cable, acquire a drill and de-value your home.

5. But since they are both the same price, that basically means you are getting the BR player absolutely free... I don't see the problem there.. and if you wanted a Blu-ray player later in addition to a 360, that would cost extra. PS3 is one of the very best BR players around didn't you know; few stand alone units will offer the same quality. The people behind The Criterion Collection even use it as a reference player. And interesting, i'm detecting a trend here with these costly extras..

And as a side note, if you have a computer... why not watch Netflix on that, get a PS3 and have both bases covered?

does the hd-dvd reason even apply anymore?

i mean,

i thought they discontinued the hd-dvd drive like a year ago.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

CAPGOD

1. Consumers should be able to choose how much HDD space they want to have. I have a 320gb HDD, its about 65% full and it basically stores every piece of digital entertainment media I own. PS3 would not be my media hub without it.

2. Cannot comment on this.

3. Free is still free. Even if it is 'only' $30, that is still an extra cost added to the 360. To get a similar online experience on PS3, it would cost nothing on top of the $300. If you are interested in online and are looking at a 360, the RRP should be set to $330 then.

4. Wireless is a huge convenience. It basically means anyone can have online functionality anywhere in their home right out of the box, and at no extra charge. On 360, if you want a wireless connection (who doesn't), you would have to pay extra. Your grounded next to the router with the 360... well, you could get a long ethernet cable and drill through walls... but then you have to buy a long ethernet cable, acquire a drill and de-value your home.

5. But since they are both the same price, that basically means you are getting the BR player absolutely free... I don't see the problem there.. and if you wanted a Blu-ray player later in addition to a 360, that would cost extra. PS3 is one of the very best BR players around didn't you know; few stand alone units will offer the same quality. The people behind The Criterion Collection even use it as a reference player. And interesting, i'm detecting a trend here with these costly extras..

And as a side note, if you have a computer... why not watch Netflix on that, get a PS3 and have both bases covered?

Ture on all accounts I suppose, but on the wireless thing wired is better than wireless. Even though I use wireless, I would prefer wierd, it is just much more stable. But otherwise you are right. I'm just a little sick with all these cows spawning through the walls recently, I mean seriously its a video games, people take them a tad too seriously at times. X_X

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

DarkGamer007

1. That may be true for the xbox but the PS3 can have the largest HD available out there.
2. Made a mistake on this one it is usb not proprietary ports.
3. Live cost money. and over time that money adds up. PNS gives free PLAY over the Internet. true there are some features that PSN does not provide at this moment but ...
4. true WiFi is not needed. there are some people who just do not want to work with more wires... Free on PS3 $$$ on Xbox360
5. Blu-Ray is Free on PS3. sure there are work arounds to this fact but, like additional disks to pop in and take out. But its a nice addition for FREE !
6. Natal may as well be better than the PS2 eye toy... We shall see how they both work out.

PS3

Sure many people have $$$ to bun $300.00 on a PC just to go on line to do some chating. My wife all she does is Email and chat. Nothing else. THUS when Im not playing the addition of A Online machine is useful!! Not a replacement but it has its uses. why should I get another Computer if I have something that can work.

IN the end The PS3 has additional offerings for the same price. It may be meaningless to some but many people will find the additions useful.

[QUOTE="CAPGOD"]

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Ture on all accounts I suppose, but on the wireless thing wired is better than wireless. Even though I use wireless, I would prefer wierd, it is just much more stable. But otherwise you are right. I'm just a little sick with all these cows spawning through the walls recently, I mean seriously its a video games, people take them a tad too seriously at times. X_X

DarkGamer007

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

1) 120 GB is the largest hard-drive size you can have on the Xbox 360 currently, and if you need more than that....well your doing it wrong.

2) What are you talking about? MS port? What is that? I have plugged in keyboards, cellphone headsets, flashdrives, and my iPod and other MP3 players into the system just fine without having to pay Microsoft a penny. :? Maybe your doing it wrong?

3) I think Live is worth the money, you don't have to pay for it, and you can find great deals like 13 months for $30 or a few weeks ago, Microsofts 1 month for $1 deal.

4) You don't need Wi-Fi, while I agree the adapter is quite overpriced, there have been many alternatives that you can use to achieve a wireless connection besides the Wireless adapter. Like this one.

5) It is called Netflix or buy a Blu-Ray player. I would rather buy my own Blu-Ray player seperatly if I wanted one than have Sony shove it down my throat even when I don't have the HDTV to utilze it. (I do have an HDTV so this wouldn't matter to me but there are a lot of people out there who still don't game on a HDTV)

6) Natal is way different than the Eyetoy, also Sony is gettting the Wii-mote....been there done that. (See I can play this game too. ;)

Playstation 3

2) Yeah um the Xbox 360 has USB ports too.

5) I have a computer, why would I want to use my Playstation 3 as a computer? (A weak computer at that one too)

CAPGOD

1. Consumers should be able to choose how much HDD space they want to have. I have a 320gb HDD, its about 65% full and it basically stores every piece of digital entertainment media I own. PS3 would not be my media hub without it.

2. Cannot comment on this.

3. Free is still free. Even if it is 'only' $30, that is still an extra cost added to the 360. To get a similar online experience on PS3, it would cost nothing on top of the $300. If you are interested in online and are looking at a 360, the RRP should be set to $330 then.

4. Wireless is a huge convenience. It basically means anyone can have online functionality anywhere in their home right out of the box, and at no extra charge. On 360, if you want a wireless connection (who doesn't), you would have to pay extra. Your grounded next to the router with the 360... well, you could get a long ethernet cable and drill through walls... but then you have to buy a long ethernet cable, acquire a drill and de-value your home.

5. But since they are both the same price, that basically means you are getting the BR player absolutely free... I don't see the problem there.. and if you wanted a Blu-ray player later in addition to a 360, that would cost extra. PS3 is one of the very best BR players around didn't you know; few stand alone units will offer the same quality. The people behind The Criterion Collection even use it as a reference player. And interesting, i'm detecting a trend here with these costly extras..

And as a side note, if you have a computer... why not watch Netflix on that, get a PS3 and have both bases covered?