So what do you think the order will be nest generation in terms of sales?

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#51 22Toothpicks
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PS4=X1>WiiU(This may change if the WiiU makes a major recovery in the next year or so).

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I think it would take a substantial price drop, aggressive marketing and something new from Ninty to kickstart the Wii-U sales; three things I just don't see happening.

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#52 XBOunity
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Microsoft>Ouya>WiiU>360>PS4

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#53 Shensolidus
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Part of my job is to have an in-depth knowledge of analytics, and i've been closely following several data points (no, not polls) to help gather an idea as to what console/device will lead the next generation.

To start, you have to understand that right now, there is no more powerful of a measuring tool than social media.  Gametrailers has an amazing program they use that cumulates the amount of tweets and mentions all of the consoles get in a 24 hour period. PS4 has been dominating that amount by 2x-3x the amount of MS. Yes, this is after the 180.

Looking at sites that do offer some insight as to their preorder numbers, its pretty clear that Sony also has an advantage as well. Again, this makes sense; It's a cheaper system - the cost of a PS4 and one of the actual big games of this holiday season (the launch exclusives aren't that big of a deal, really) is less than the cost of an Xbox One by itself.

So, where does that leave us? Honestly, this is going to come down to exclusive first party games that come out between the 12-24 month period of the consoles. If MS gets some solid exclusives in that window, with a price drop due to a hardware redesign, they may be able to catch up or surpass the PS4 on an international level. They'd have to be REALLY solid titles, but since MS didn't inheret any solid pipelines between the generatioins, it may take longer than that to get some great exclusive content on their machine.

TL;DR - Here's the breakdown: PS4 (between 80-100 mil total) X1(50-80 mil total) Wii U (30 - 60 Mil) 3DS (80-100 Mil) 

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#54 BlessedChill
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The ps4 and Xbox one won't be close in sales this generation. The Xbox had a year head start was 200 dollars cheaper than the cheapest end ps3 model and launched a year and a half earlier in europe with FIFA exclusively for 1/2 years. Yet, the sales between both are negligible. This gen Sony is doing so much right and seems to be the clear winner of this generation.
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#55 Baurus_1
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Part of my job is to have an in-depth knowledge of analytics

Shensolidus

You obviously need to find a new job because you have no idea what you are talking about and all your analysis is extremely distorted and biased due to the fact that you are a bigtime Cow.

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#56 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Part of my job is to have an in-depth knowledge of analytics

Baurus_1

You obviously need to find a new job because you have no idea what you are talking about and all your analysis is extremely distorted and biased due to the fact that you are a bigtime Cow.

 

I would much rather purchase a PS4 over a X1 anytime, X1's price in the UK is f**king stupid.

 

 

-PC gamer

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#57 Baurus_1
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The ps4 and Xbox one won't be close in sales this generation.BlessedChill

Keep telling yourself that.

If anything, XBOX ONE is likely to outsell the PS4 due to better exclusives and much more features on the XBOX ONE.

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#58 Baurus_1
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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Part of my job is to have an in-depth knowledge of analytics

AMD655

You obviously need to find a new job because you have no idea what you are talking about and all your analysis is extremely distorted and biased due to the fact that you are a bigtime Cow.

 

I would much rather purchase a PS4 over a X1 anytime, X1's price in the UK is f**king stupid.

 

 

-PC gamer

So basically you like the PS4 better because you can't afford an XBOX ONE. That's like someone saying they like a Kia better than a Rolls Royce because they can't afford a Rolls Royce. That doesn't make the Kia better, just cheaper and lower quality.

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#59 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

You obviously need to find a new job because you have no idea what you are talking about and all your analysis is extremely distorted and biased due to the fact that you are a bigtime Cow.

Baurus_1

 

I would much rather purchase a PS4 over a X1 anytime, X1's price in the UK is f**king stupid.

 

 

-PC gamer

So basically you like the PS4 better because you can't afford an XBOX ONE. That's like someone saying they like a Kia better than a Rolls Royce because they can't afford a Rolls Royce. That doesn't make the Kia better, just cheaper and lower quality.

 

No, the X1 is an overpriced POS as it currently stands, and considering hardly anything is exclusive on X1, PC will be getting most, if not all it's games.

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#60 Baurus_1
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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

I would much rather purchase a PS4 over a X1 anytime, X1's price in the UK is f**king stupid.

 

 

-PC gamer

AMD655

So basically you like the PS4 better because you can't afford an XBOX ONE. That's like someone saying they like a Kia better than a Rolls Royce because they can't afford a Rolls Royce. That doesn't make the Kia better, just cheaper and lower quality.

 

No, the X1 is an overpriced POS as it currently stands, and considering hardly anything is exclusive on X1, PC will be getting most, if not all it's games.

XBOX ONE = higher build quality, more features, better exclusives, better controller, better online service

PS4 = lower build quality, less features, worse exclusives, worse controller, worse online service

Those are the facts.

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#61 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

So basically you like the PS4 better because you can't afford an XBOX ONE. That's like someone saying they like a Kia better than a Rolls Royce because they can't afford a Rolls Royce. That doesn't make the Kia better, just cheaper and lower quality.

Baurus_1

 

No, the X1 is an overpriced POS as it currently stands, and considering hardly anything is exclusive on X1, PC will be getting most, if not all it's games.

XBOX ONE = higher build quality, more features, better exclusives, better controller, better online service

PS4 = lower build quality, less features, worse exclusives, worse controller, worse online service

Those are the facts.

 

After owning an XBOX 360 and PS3, i can tell you never played anything playstation...

Sure, you PAY for the Live service, we have yet to see what PS4 and X1's service will be like.

 

This is not 2001, nor is it 2005.

 

PS4 will use a paid for service, it sure as hell will not stay as it was, and even if it did... it is still a pretty decent service at that, close to Steam, which is a top notch PC service.

 

Exclusives where?

 

PC is getting almost all of them...

 

Build quality?

 

PS3 punched the 360 in the head with that.

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#62 gamecubepad
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Well, in line with my consistent flip-flopping, I'll say PC #1, WiiU #2, and X1/PS4 tied for last.

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#63 Baurus_1
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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

No, the X1 is an overpriced POS as it currently stands, and considering hardly anything is exclusive on X1, PC will be getting most, if not all it's games.

AMD655

XBOX ONE = higher build quality, more features, better exclusives, better controller, better online service

PS4 = lower build quality, less features, worse exclusives, worse controller, worse online service

Those are the facts.

 

After owning an XBOX 360 and PS3, i can tell you never played anything playstation...

Sure, you PAY for the Live service, we have yet to see what PS4 and X1's service will be like.

 

This is not 2001, nor is it 2005.

 

PS4 will use a paid for service, it sure as hell will not stay as it was, and even if it did... it is still a pretty decent service at that, close to Steam, which is a top notch PC service.

Listen, PC will always be the BEST, but XBOX ONE is definitely superior to PS4 in nearly every way that counts (not trivial hardware specs on paper).

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#64 Ricardomz
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PS4 >>>>>>> X1 >>>> WiiU

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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

XBOX ONE = higher build quality, more features, better exclusives, better controller, better online service

PS4 = lower build quality, less features, worse exclusives, worse controller, worse online service

Those are the facts.

Baurus_1

 

After owning an XBOX 360 and PS3, i can tell you never played anything playstation...

Sure, you PAY for the Live service, we have yet to see what PS4 and X1's service will be like.

 

This is not 2001, nor is it 2005.

 

PS4 will use a paid for service, it sure as hell will not stay as it was, and even if it did... it is still a pretty decent service at that, close to Steam, which is a top notch PC service.

Listen, PC will always be the BEST, but XBOX ONE is definitely superior to PS4 in nearly every way that counts (not trivial hardware specs on paper).

 

Hardware.

Games.

All better.

 

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[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

After owning an XBOX 360 and PS3, i can tell you never played anything playstation...

Sure, you PAY for the Live service, we have yet to see what PS4 and X1's service will be like.

 

This is not 2001, nor is it 2005.

 

PS4 will use a paid for service, it sure as hell will not stay as it was, and even if it did... it is still a pretty decent service at that, close to Steam, which is a top notch PC service.

AMD655

Listen, PC will always be the BEST, but XBOX ONE is definitely superior to PS4 in nearly every way that counts (not trivial hardware specs on paper).

 

Hardware.

Games.

All better.

 

And controller, and value.
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#67 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

Listen, PC will always be the BEST, but XBOX ONE is definitely superior to PS4 in nearly every way that counts (not trivial hardware specs on paper).

Granny_Spanked

 

Hardware.

Games.

All better.

 

And controller, and value.

 

To be fair, i may purchase the controller just for PC support, i emulate my PS2 games on PC :D

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#68 KaijuSlayer666
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CONSOLE: PS4 Wii U Xbox One HANDHELD: 3DS VITA
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#69 Bigboi500
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1. PS4

2. Wii U

3. Xbox One

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PS4 and XBone will be neck and neck, Wii U won't break 30 million
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#71 Floppy_Jim
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It's decided before it's even started. The only remotely interesting question may be PS4 vs 3DS. I think 3DS > all.
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#72 Bigboi500
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PS4 and XBone will be neck and neck, Wii U won't break 30 millionBPoole96
The Xbox One will not be available in the same areas of the other two, and their heavy reliance on internet and media, and higher price will deter people away from the system. I don't see how anyone expects the Xbox One to flurish in sales. At best, it will cater to a select few regions and a select few kinds of people.

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#73 DJ_Headshot
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  1. PS4
  2. XB1
  3. WiiU
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#74 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]PS4 and XBone will be neck and neck, Wii U won't break 30 millionBigboi500

The Xbox One will not be available in the same areas of the other two, and their heavy reliance on internet and media, and higher price will deter people away from the system. I don't see how anyone expects the Xbox One to flurish in sales. At best, it will cater to a select few regions and a select few kinds of people.

U.S sales is all it really needs to sell well infact I'd bet that lifetime U.S sales for the XB1 alone will surpass the WiiU lifetime global sales I don't see it beating the PS4 though.

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I think MS might actually NOT be last for once.

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#76 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]PS4 and XBone will be neck and neck, Wii U won't break 30 millionDJ_Headshot

The Xbox One will not be available in the same areas of the other two, and their heavy reliance on internet and media, and higher price will deter people away from the system. I don't see how anyone expects the Xbox One to flurish in sales. At best, it will cater to a select few regions and a select few kinds of people.

U.S sales is all it really needs to sell well infact I'd bet that lifetime U.S sales for the XB1 alone will surpass the WiiU lifetime global sales I don't see it beating the PS4 though.

I think taking US sales for granted is a mistake. I'm sure It'll sell more than the Wii U in the states, but probably not enough to compensate for not being in other places around the globe.

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The reason behind the Xbox 360s sales figure is the built self expiration date aka the Red Ring Of Death. Many 360 owners buy 3 units because the 360 service life averages at 3 years. Using this exploitative business strategy MS sustain a steady sale of the 360 units while building an illusion that it is a hot commodity. 360 owners whose unit got RROD are force to buy a new unit in order for them to not lose their entire 360 gaming investment.
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#78 Alpha_S_
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1.  PS4 80 million +

2.  X1 50 million +

3.  Wii U 30 million +

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#79 blamix99
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ps4>xbox1>wii.u

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#80 mariokart64fan
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so people think ps4 will win ha , get real ,  everyone knows when wiiu picks up steam , its going to be like the 3ds when it does ,

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#81 Bigboi500
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The reason behind the Xbox 360s sales figure is the built self expiration date aka the Red Ring Of Death. Many 360 owners buy 3 units because the 360 service life averages at 3 years. Using this exploitative business strategy MS sustain a steady sale of the 360 units while building an illusion that it is a hot commodity. 360 owners whose unit got RROD are force to buy a new unit in order for them to not lose their entire 360 gaming investment.strawhatlupi
That's a good point and  lot of people overlook it. I myself have bought exactly three 360s. With the PS4 being $100 bucks cheaper, and the option to switch to gaming PCs, and Microsoft forcing Kinects on people, there really is no guarantee the One will post similar US numbers to the 360.

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The reason behind the Xbox 360s sales figure is the built self expiration date aka the Red Ring Of Death. Many 360 owners buy 3 units because the 360 service life averages at 3 years. Using this exploitative business strategy MS sustain a steady sale of the 360 units while building an illusion that it is a hot commodity. 360 owners whose unit got RROD are force to buy a new unit in order for them to not lose their entire 360 gaming investment.strawhatlupi

No one can figure out the amount of 360's bought by people that originally had a 360.No one has data for this.RROD probably had little to no affect on the 360's sales in the last 3-5 years.It may have affected the amount of consoles sold in the first couple of years of the 360's life.

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[QUOTE="strawhatlupi"]The reason behind the Xbox 360s sales figure is the built self expiration date aka the Red Ring Of Death. Many 360 owners buy 3 units because the 360 service life averages at 3 years. Using this exploitative business strategy MS sustain a steady sale of the 360 units while building an illusion that it is a hot commodity. 360 owners whose unit got RROD are force to buy a new unit in order for them to not lose their entire 360 gaming investment.super600

No one can figure out the amount of 360's bought by people that originally had a 360.No one has data for this.RROD probably had little to no affect on the 360's sales in the last 3-5 years.It may have affected the amount of consoles sold in the last couple of years.

with an unacceptable failure rate of 16%-33%, assumptions that it will bloat the 360 sales is not far fetch. its an undocumented reality.
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#84 jsmoke03
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if everything is going to be like it is now -ps4-xb1wii u

if ms actually stops buying exclusivity and concentrates on games unlike what they did the second half of this gen- ps4=xb1 wii u

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#85 Sweenix
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PS4=X1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii Uclyde46

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#87 tdavis20050
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I don't. But don't go around claiming ownage on sales when you got old links :|MonsieurX
Funny, you just did, with no links.
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"]This gen it was Wii>Xbox 360> PS3. What could it be next gen? Wii U> Xbox E>PS4? PS4>Xbox One>WiiU? Xbox One>PS4>WiiU? Ouya>Mojo?Steambox?Xbox One>PS4>Wii U? Who knows! What are your predictions.ramonnl
Ps3 sold more than the xbox360, next gen will be: ps4, xboxone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wii-u

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#88 KillzoneSnake
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PS4 first by far. Will outsell the X1 by 3-1. Wii U will be dead last.