Is it still alive or vaporware :P.
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onlive hate? for real? vaporware jokes aside i liked the idea, i'm already moving a guy (or car or plane or whatever)around online frequently, why do i need a console for that?
i thought at the time it was brought up that the idea of having the pc on the server end is kinda brilliant
i musta missed sw giving the idea the thumbs down, too bad, i like to see new ideas tried out
onlive hate? for real? vaporware jokes aside i liked the idea, i'm already moving a guy (or car or plane or whatever)around online frequently, why do i need a console for that?
i thought at the time it was brought up that the idea of having the pc on the server end is kinda brilliant
i musta missed sw giving the idea the thumbs down, too bad, i like to see new ideas tried outRiverwolf007
I don't think there's many who dislike the concept.
I think the critics just hate seeing so many people being deceived (or living in fantasy land)..thinking this service is going to actually work. It's a nice idea, but not much more than that with current technology.
First of all, even if they do go commercial with it, their hardware and operating costs are going to be through the roof. They're going to need tens of thousands of high-end gaming hardware setups to even get started, not to mention video encoding hardware..and to top it all off they need servers to manage and deliver the video streams to customers. Additionally, the experience is still going to be severely degraded unless you live relatively close to the server farms (demonstrating the service 50 miles from the server farm like they've been doing is extremely deceptive.) 100-200 millisecond lag on inputs might not sound like alot, but it's a huge amount for fast-paced games (FPS, fighting, racing), and is going to totally kill the experience for anything other than the RPG genre and a handful of others.
It's confirmed- I'm the only one who got the memo that it was pushed back.musicalmacYou uh... are aware that OnLIVE is an investor scam, right? - These guys are the same "geniuses" behind WebTV... y'know, the thing no one ever used, that didn't work, and was supposedly the future. OnLIVE is actually impossible - literally, there is no encoding mechanism fast enough to perform what they need, at the quality they claim it will be at - and that's ignoring the lag issues for people more than 50 miles from a server (which is quite a few people) or the cost of setting up such a processor / graphics intensive remote rendering situation. - I have the feeling OnLIVE will exist mainly to steal seed money, patent ideas for lawsuits against future consoles, and if we're lucky make a catastrophic appearance before going the way of the dodo.
What do you mean Web TV was a failure. Last year 2008 it took off massivly, especially when Joss Whedon did Doctor Horrible. Not to mention other popular web shows such as The Guild and Legend of Neil which have been highly sucessful and they are rolling a high amount of cash. They had the streamys award ceremony this year and is currently one of the fastest rising mediums for entertainment. Saying Web TV failed is the udner statement of the year.
Two things with online:
1. It is currently impossible for majority of the world. Only America, selected Scadanvian Countries and Japan can possibly support Onlive. Een within America it is proving incredibly difficult. The video encryption code works fine, but we don't have that fast of internet yet. So rule out America and the scandanvian countries. All we have left is Japan who have fibre optic cables. With the current state of the world this technology will fai.
Also with the president of the company said to stream it will use up 5 MB per second. Which is huge for most countries outside America. For example: Canada averages at 60GB and Australia 20GB. When asked, he said he had never heard of an internet plan lower than 200GB. Epic fail if you want this to suceed globally.
2. Fanboys love their consoles and fanboys love their PCs. This fits neither really.
In all though this is truely a great idea. It's just the world isn't ready for this yet. And fanboys will always be fanboys.
That's not "WebTV" :| Those are "internet TV shows" - that's NOT what we're talking about. - Television shows on the internet like AVGN, Zero Punctuation, The Guild, etc aren't "webTV" - WebTV was a specific product - this box you plugged into your TV set that you used to surf the net from your couch. It used dial-up and SDTVs - it was designed for the elderly to access the internet, and was an utter failure. Think of it like being AOL + a set-top box + every restriction you can imagine, with a level of suck so hard that it was bought by Microsoft *and still failed*. - The reason OnLIVE is being created is because it's an investor scam. These guys are hoping they can convince some big company to buy them out - the way they did with WebTV (Microsoft bought it, rebranded it MSN TV - likely it's before your time ). That's it. It's not going to work, and anyone foolish enough to buy it is going to spend money on a buggy product that will *definitely* go away as soon as it's bought out / goes bankrupt.What do you mean Web TV was a failure. Last year 2008 it took off massivly, especially when Joss Whedon did Doctor Horrible. Not to mention other popular web shows such as The Guild and Legend of Neil which have been highly sucessful and they are rolling a high amount of cash. They had the streamys award ceremony this year and is currently one of the fastest rising mediums for entertainment. Saying Web TV failed is the udner statement of the year.
Two things with online:
1. It is currently impossible for majority of the world. Only America, selected Scadanvian Countries and Japan can possibly support Onlive. Een within America it is proving incredibly difficult. The video encryption code works fine, but we don't have that fast of internet yet. So rule out America and the scandanvian countries. All we have left is Japan who have fibre optic cables. With the current state of the world this technology will fai.
Also with the president of the company said to stream it will use up 5 MB per second. Which is huge for most countries outside America. For example: Canada averages at 60GB and Australia 20GB. When asked, he said he had never heard of an internet plan lower than 200GB. Epic fail if you want this to suceed globally.
2. Fanboys love their consoles and fanboys love their PCs. This fits neither really.
In all though this is truely a great idea. It's just the world isn't ready for this yet. And fanboys will always be fanboys.
radicalplace
Read this from their FAQ:
What kind of Internet connection do I need to use the OnLive Service?
OnLive works over nearly any broadband connection (DSL, cable modem, fiber, or through the LAN at your college or office). For Standard-Definition TV resolution, OnLive needs a 1.5 Mbps connection. For HDTV resolution (720p60), OnLive needs 5 Mbps.
Seems like they are being very realisticto me. Time will tell. I hope they succeed and give us gamers another option.
What I don't understand is all these gamers saying: "I hope it fails", what's up with that ?
I work with VMware, in the early days I had to listen to co-workers rag on it all the time... not anymore ;-)
I hope it becomes reality.
In the UK at least BT is investing a ton bringing up our internet speeds so sppeds wont be a problem. I doubt it would be even now though...
[QUOTE="radicalplace"]That's not "WebTV" :| Those are "internet TV shows" - that's NOT what we're talking about. - Television shows on the internet like AVGN, Zero Punctuation, The Guild, etc aren't "webTV" - WebTV was a specific product - this box you plugged into your TV set that you used to surf the net from your couch. It used dial-up and SDTVs - it was designed for the elderly to access the internet, and was an utter failure. Think of it like being AOL + a set-top box + every restriction you can imagine, with a level of suck so hard that it was bought by Microsoft *and still failed*. - The reason OnLIVE is being created is because it's an investor scam. These guys are hoping they can convince some big company to buy them out - the way they did with WebTV (Microsoft bought it, rebranded it MSN TV - likely it's before your time ). That's it. It's not going to work, and anyone foolish enough to buy it is going to spend money on a buggy product that will *definitely* go away as soon as it's bought out / goes bankrupt. Everywhere I've read and heard those shows have been referred to as Web television or web TV. So clearly that was just a misunderstanding. If a company buys Onlive, they'll be buying the technology from the ex-owners of the company in 5 years time. They can't possibly make enough profit to stay alive until then. Its a good idea, its just not ready for the world yet. Its basically iTunes for games.What do you mean Web TV was a failure. Last year 2008 it took off massivly, especially when Joss Whedon did Doctor Horrible. Not to mention other popular web shows such as The Guild and Legend of Neil which have been highly sucessful and they are rolling a high amount of cash. They had the streamys award ceremony this year and is currently one of the fastest rising mediums for entertainment. Saying Web TV failed is the udner statement of the year.
Two things with online:
1. It is currently impossible for majority of the world. Only America, selected Scadanvian Countries and Japan can possibly support Onlive. Een within America it is proving incredibly difficult. The video encryption code works fine, but we don't have that fast of internet yet. So rule out America and the scandanvian countries. All we have left is Japan who have fibre optic cables. With the current state of the world this technology will fai.
Also with the president of the company said to stream it will use up 5 MB per second. Which is huge for most countries outside America. For example: Canada averages at 60GB and Australia 20GB. When asked, he said he had never heard of an internet plan lower than 200GB. Epic fail if you want this to suceed globally.
2. Fanboys love their consoles and fanboys love their PCs. This fits neither really.
In all though this is truely a great idea. It's just the world isn't ready for this yet. And fanboys will always be fanboys.
subrosian
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