So what if the Wii surpasses the 360?

I see many threads about the Wii nearing the 10 million mark but the thing I dont understand is why anyone thinks that this effects the 360 or PS3.

The fact is that the Wii is so cheap that it does not really effect the sales of either console. I love my Wii, but it is a 3rd console only. It is more of an acccessory then a game system. Its lack of power and games hinder it quite a bit. I bought mine just to play its exclusives.

The Wii is the hot item right now because Nintendo knows how to market itself to the public (unlike Sony) and they are selling quite a few consoles and I applaud them for that, but if you think that you can actually rub that kind of stuff in MS or Sonys face you must realize that even if the Wii takes the lead it will not finish that way. In the end MS or Sony will be in more homes then the Wii because in the next few years the 360 and PS3 will have all the great games and they will have them in spades!

But hey thats just my opinion..I could be wrong!

I see many threads about the Wii nearing the 10 million mark

The fact is that the Wii is so cheap. I bought mine just to play its exclusives.

The Wii is the hot item right now because Nintendo knows how to market itself to the public (unlike Sony) and they are selling quite a few consoles and I applaud them for that

itsallgood29

tahts why the wii will be number one

I personally think there are 3 categories of systems

HandHelds (psp, ds)

Consoles (360, PS3)

??????? (Wii)

the wii is in a category all on it own imho

360 will never win because it fails in Japan. As long as Wii sells well in NA and outsells PS3 in Japan it will take the crown.-Dionysus-

Who cares about Japan? There is not much in the way of sales in Japan. MS only wants japan to mess with Sony. Japan will not decide this race.

[QUOTE="-Dionysus-"]360 will never win because it fails in Japan. As long as Wii sells well in NA and outsells PS3 in Japan it will take the crown.itsallgood29

Who cares about Japan? There is not much in the way of sales in Japan. MS only wants japan to mess with Sony. Japan will not decide this race.

LOL! as long as MS loses Japan it will always lose.

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

pundog

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd place

[QUOTE="pundog"]

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

MorisUkunRasik

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd place

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="pundog"]

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

pundog

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd place

the nintendo console will outsell ms console in japan almost no matter what. droping the core price to 200 won't phase the wii much especially since they have the option to drop the wii to 150 or 100. And nintendo games have much more appeal than ms games. MS has halo for mass appeal but not much else.

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd placeMorisUkunRasik

To alot of people though, Wii just isn't capable of making "killer" games. They might be great games in some respects, but the hardware limits it and thereis going to be a group that will look elsewhere. We all like different things about gaming, and it so happens that graphics are high on quite a few lists. More power and a well integrated online system also opens up possibilities that you just won't get on Wii. Not to mention the franchises that will not be available there.

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd placewhoisryanmack

To alot of people though, Wii just isn't capable of making "killer" games. They might be great games in some respects, but the hardware limits it and thereis going to be a group that will look elsewhere. We all like different things about gaming, and it so happens that graphics are high on quite a few lists. More power and a well integrated online system also opens up possibilities that you just won't get on Wii. Not to mention the franchises that will not be available there.

the wii's aim is the casual who really couldn't careless about graphics. It will get the hardcore crowd aswell. Paying 250 to play zelda smash bros donkey knog metroid and all the other classics is a bargain even if its not in 1080p.

But if (when) the Wii takes the number one spot in the console race why would publishers bother making games for the 360/ps3, when they can make them for much less on the wii and for a bigger user base?? :/Nex_Ownage

exactly "we can make a game that doesnt have to visually amazing and with an install base as big as the wiis its bound to sell especially since we can focus on gameplay and storyline more than lighting effects and whatnot."

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd placeMorisUkunRasik

To alot of people though, Wii just isn't capable of making "killer" games. They might be great games in some respects, but the hardware limits it and thereis going to be a group that will look elsewhere. We all like different things about gaming, and it so happens that graphics are high on quite a few lists. More power and a well integrated online system also opens up possibilities that you just won't get on Wii. Not to mention the franchises that will not be available there.

the wii's aim is the casual who really couldn't careless about graphics. It will get the hardcore crowd aswell. Paying 250 to play zelda smash bros donkey knog metroid and all the other classics is a bargain even if its not in 1080p.

It might be a bargain, but I won't pay it. I doubt I'm alone. Not everyone is so sentimental that they will continue to accept regurgitated Nintendo crap. Even if Wii sells more systems, that does not imply that they will ultimately be more successful. As you've stated, their fanbase is extremely casual, and by definition those people should be fickle about their gaming. If they stop buying games and lose interest in a few years, developers will move on no matter how many Wii's there are.

The real point is that regardless of Wii's success, there is a huge segment of the market left that Wii just cannot compete for. As long as people want a Gears or Halo or DMC or MGS, there is a market for ps3 and 360 to be successful.

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd placewhoisryanmack

To alot of people though, Wii just isn't capable of making "killer" games. They might be great games in some respects, but the hardware limits it and thereis going to be a group that will look elsewhere. We all like different things about gaming, and it so happens that graphics are high on quite a few lists. More power and a well integrated online system also opens up possibilities that you just won't get on Wii. Not to mention the franchises that will not be available there.

the wii's aim is the casual who really couldn't careless about graphics. It will get the hardcore crowd aswell. Paying 250 to play zelda smash bros donkey knog metroid and all the other classics is a bargain even if its not in 1080p.

It might be a bargain, but I won't pay it. I doubt I'm alone. Not everyone is so sentimental that they will continue to accept regurgitated Nintendo crap. Even if Wii sells more systems, that does not imply that they will ultimately be more successful. As you've stated, their fanbase is extremely casual, and by definition those people should be fickle about their gaming. If they stop buying games and lose interest in a few years, developers will move on no matter how many Wii's there are.

The real point is that regardless of Wii's success, there is a huge segment of the market left that Wii just cannot compete for. As long as people want a Gears or Halo or DMC or MGS, there is a market for ps3 and 360 to be successful.

those casuals could move or they might stay and even if they do there are plenty more casuals to take their place. There are plenty of hardcore gamers that will get a wii especiall since it is such a bargain. The halo DMC and MGS franchises are all great but not all on one platform DK zelda mario metroid on the other hand are.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="pundog"]

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

MorisUkunRasik

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd place

the nintendo console will outsell ms console in japan almost no matter what. droping the core price to 200 won't phase the wii much especially since they have the option to drop the wii to 150 or 100. And nintendo games have much more appeal than ms games. MS has halo for mass appeal but not much else.

I'm not saying its a lock for the 360 to win, just that its consievable that either the Wii or 360 could come out of 07 with a significant lead.

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="pundog"]

It'll be interesting to see the sales numbers at the end of the year, MS should have a pricedrop on the 360 to at least make the core cost as much as the Wii (and they could lower it even more in Japan,I'm pretty sure they did that last gen) and couple that with the huge titles coming out this year (especially Halo 3 and themany JRPGs)and I think MS with some breaks and good marketing could come out on top this gen. Only thing I'm worried they will do is be too conservative with any price cuts/deals to make sure they turn a profit.

pundog

you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd place

the nintendo console will outsell ms console in japan almost no matter what. droping the core price to 200 won't phase the wii much especially since they have the option to drop the wii to 150 or 100. And nintendo games have much more appeal than ms games. MS has halo for mass appeal but not much else.

I'm not saying its a lock for the 360 to win, just that its consievable that either the Wii or 360 could come out of 07 with a significant lead.

even without a price cut the 360 has absolutely no chance to beat the wii in japan. The wii is on the fast track to have 20 million units sold by the end of next year easily and I highly doubt the 360 could do the same. If it was well stocked there is no doubt in my mind that it would already be past the 360.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]you forget that the wii could also drop its price and it also has killer games in the pipeline. If you ask me the ps3 and 360 are screwed and are merely fighting for 2nd placeMorisUkunRasik

To alot of people though, Wii just isn't capable of making "killer" games. They might be great games in some respects, but the hardware limits it and thereis going to be a group that will look elsewhere. We all like different things about gaming, and it so happens that graphics are high on quite a few lists. More power and a well integrated online system also opens up possibilities that you just won't get on Wii. Not to mention the franchises that will not be available there.

the wii's aim is the casual who really couldn't careless about graphics. It will get the hardcore crowd aswell. Paying 250 to play zelda smash bros donkey knog metroid and all the other classics is a bargain even if its not in 1080p.

It might be a bargain, but I won't pay it. I doubt I'm alone. Not everyone is so sentimental that they will continue to accept regurgitated Nintendo crap. Even if Wii sells more systems, that does not imply that they will ultimately be more successful. As you've stated, their fanbase is extremely casual, and by definition those people should be fickle about their gaming. If they stop buying games and lose interest in a few years, developers will move on no matter how many Wii's there are.

The real point is that regardless of Wii's success, there is a huge segment of the market left that Wii just cannot compete for. As long as people want a Gears or Halo or DMC or MGS, there is a market for ps3 and 360 to be successful.

those casuals could move or they might stay and even if they do there are plenty more casuals to take their place. There are plenty of hardcore gamers that will get a wii especiall since it is such a bargain. The halo DMC and MGS franchises are all great but not all on one platform DK zelda mario metroid on the other hand are.

I was not saying that only those listedfranchises will be available there, I was trying to get across the type of game that will not be available on Wii. A gears-like game will just not be possible on Wii. This includes every new franchise that would benefit from processing power and a solid online system. Also it is arguable that Ninty would even touch that level of mature content. Lots of teens/twentysomething casuals appreciate that sort of thing.

And why can't casuals like 360 or ps3? They loved xbox and ps2....more than gamecube as a matter of fact. The ninty franchises don't have the same pull they once had.

even without a price cut the 360 has absolutely no chance to beat the wii in japan. The wii is on the fast track to have 20 million units sold by the end of next year easily and I highly doubt the 360 could do the same. If it was well stocked there is no doubt in my mind that it would already be past the 360.

MorisUkunRasik

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

even without a price cut the 360 has absolutely no chance to beat the wii in japan. The wii is on the fast track to have 20 million units sold by the end of next year easily and I highly doubt the 360 could do the same. If it was well stocked there is no doubt in my mind that it would already be past the 360.

pundog

I highly doubt they'd cut the core price in half just to compete with the wii. Its a lost cause even with games aimed at teh *** audience the wii has just as many *** aimed games if not more for cheaper on a cheaper console. Its a simple choice for the consumer, non -hardcore, audience

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

even without a price cut the 360 has absolutely no chance to beat the wii in japan. The wii is on the fast track to have 20 million units sold by the end of next year easily and I highly doubt the 360 could do the same. If it was well stocked there is no doubt in my mind that it would already be past the 360.

pundog

No just No.

Let's see....Sony IS losing money on EACH PS3 they sell.

MS is making $75 profit (last I heard) from each 360 since late last year.

Nintendo has been making profit since launch.

Have you seen the quarterly reports? The OP is delusional.

As a gamer? I could care less which one wins, I have all three :D