So whats taking so long for the Xbox 360 version of FFXIII to sell 1 million

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#1 GordonRamsay23
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I hear it's only sold 500,000 copies even though there are 5 million more Xbox 360 owners than PS3 owners. When the PS3 version first released, it sold 2 million... in 1 day. Aren't Xbox owners grateful that Square-Enix has given them the gift of a single player Final Fantasy game?

They even optimized it just for Xbox 360 owners by giving them things that Xbox 360 owners like such as 480p video clips and lossy audio.

So what's taking so long?

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1. Japan

2. The fact it hasn't done as well as previous games

3. Who cares

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There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)
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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I suppose a lot of the people that wanted it bought a PS3 long before. After all, FF is most commonly identified as a PlayStation franchise. Besides, I bet most multiple console owners got the Ps3 version, thanks to the single BR.
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There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)blue_hazy_basic
Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]
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#6 GordonRamsay23
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Yeah, but how many people seriously own both a PS3 and Xbox 360... that's like owning both an Xbox 360 and a PC used for gaming. Kind of redundant.

Although there is a possibility that millions of Xbox 360 owners acquired Final Fantasy XIII via Digital Distribution, which wouldn't show up on NPD numbers.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)IronBass
Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]

hells yea @ spoiler!
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#8 Chutebox  Online
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According to our only WW "source", it's already passed 1 mil.

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Probably something..

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Oh I dunno, I thought people didn't care for it?
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)IronBass
Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]

Isn't that a shooter?

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It sold 493,300 copies in the March NPD, which accounts for only the US. Since then, we have yet to see the April NPD, on top of more worldwide sales figures.

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"The sales figures for Final Fantasy XIII revealed that Microsoft's extra efforts have been rewarded. Out of the 1,322,100 total US units sold, 828,200 copies were the PlayStation 3 version, and 493,300 were for the Xbox 360."

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it was over a million for worldwide 360 sales.

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Yeah, but how many people seriously own both a PS3 and Xbox 360... that's like owning both an Xbox 360 and a PC used for gaming. Kind of redundant.

Although there is a possibility that millions of Xbox 360 owners acquired Final Fantasy XIII via Digital Distribution, which wouldn't show up on NPD numbers.

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A lot of people, especially after the Slim price drop and a bunch of great exclusives for PS3
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)GordonRamsay23

Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]

Isn't that a shooter?

You should play it and find out ;)
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I did play it. Great story... but it's a shooter. Maybe it's because I played it on the PC

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Isn't that a shooter?GordonRamsay23
It's a quite elegant mix of both.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)GordonRamsay23

Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]

Isn't that a shooter?

Don't listen to them. It's a shooter through and through >_>
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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Isn't that a shooter?IronBass
It's a quite elegant mix of both.

wrong. the first was a mix. this is a shooter with a few RPG elements thrown in for teh lulz
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Isn't that a shooter?Jandurin
It's a quite elegant mix of both.

wrong. the first was a mix. this is a shooter with a few RPG elements thrown in for teh lulz

Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.

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The 360 version wasn't a great port and anyone owning both systems would have bought the PS3 knowing it was on a single disc. Plus, most people who bought a 360 and refused to buy a PS3 before E3 2008 probably weren't all that bothered about Final Fantasy JRPG's in general to begin with.

With that being said, the 360 version almost equalled the PS3 version in sales here in the UK.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IronBass"] It's a quite elegant mix of both.GordonRamsay23

wrong. the first was a mix. this is a shooter with a few RPG elements thrown in for teh lulz

Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.

yeah, exactly.
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Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.GordonRamsay23
Borderlands is also considered a RPG/Shooter hybrid.
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The 360 version wasn't a great port and anyone owning both systems would have bought the PS3 knowing it was on a single disc. Plus, most people who bought a 360 and refused to buy a PS3 before E3 2008 probably weren't all that bothered about Final Fantasy JRPG's in general to begin with.

With that being said, the 360 version almost equalled the PS3 version in sales here in the UK.

Menalque2

The FFXIII version isn't a port. It's an optimized version that takes advantage of the Xbox 360 features such as DVD and lossy audio.

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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.IronBass
Borderlands is also considered a RPG/Shooter hybrid.

roffles. if you consider borderlands anything more than a shell of an RPG then you sir are wrong :evil:
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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.IronBass
Borderlands is also considered a RPG/Shooter hybrid.

No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.

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#26 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Jandurin how can you fan these flames *grumbles* ME2 was every bit as much an RPG as DA, it just has a different combat style
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)GordonRamsay23
Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]



Isn't that a shooter?



It's a shooter with RPG elements tacked on. Most of the exploration from the first game was also removed from the second, so it's even less of an RPG in comparison to the first installment.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Gotta agree with this. If you consider something like Borderlands a shooter, then Mass Effect 2 is also a shooter.GordonRamsay23

Borderlands is also considered a RPG/Shooter hybrid.

No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.

Even if it were a shooter with RPG elements, then IronBass' genre application would still be correct. Either way, even GS sees it as an RPG sci-fi shooter.

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Jandurin how can you fan these flames *grumbles* ME2 was every bit as much an RPG as DA, it just has a different combat styleblue_hazy_basic
no way :lol:
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No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.GordonRamsay23
Which, for all practical purposes, it's called a RPG/Shooter hybrid. If we wanted to get technical, FFXIII is not a RPG either, is an Action/Adventure game with RPG elements.
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Jandurin how can you fan these flames *grumbles* ME2 was every bit as much an RPG as DA, it just has a different combat styleblue_hazy_basic
He'z trollin!
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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.IronBass
Which, for all practical purposes, it's called a RPG/Shooter hybrid. If we wanted to get technical, FFXIII is not a RPG either, is an Action/Adventure game with RPG elements.

from what i've seen of it, i can't disagree but i haven't played it so i don't know
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Jandurin how can you fan these flames *grumbles* ME2 was every bit as much an RPG as DA, it just has a different combat stylesiLVURcross
He'z trollin!

i'm not trollin i'm seriousin :evil:
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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.IronBass
Which, for all practical purposes, it's called a RPG/Shooter hybrid. If we wanted to get technical, FFXIII is not a RPG either, is an Action/Adventure game with RPG elements.

Uh, God of War III is an action/adventure game... FFXIII is not. It's an RPG.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Jandurin how can you fan these flames *grumbles* ME2 was every bit as much an RPG as DA, it just has a different combat styleJandurin
He'z trollin!

i'm not trollin i'm seriousin :evil:

You'z def trollin!
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Uh, God of War III is an action/adventure game... FFXIII is not. It's an RPG.GordonRamsay23
GoW is an action game. Zelda is an Action/Adventure game.
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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]No, it's a shooter with RPG elements.IronBass
Which, for all practical purposes, it's called a RPG/Shooter hybrid. If we wanted to get technical, FFXIII is not a RPG either, is an Action/Adventure game with RPG elements.

In a sense, he's correct. However, the core gameplay is menu/turn based. You don't control your characters movements and you don't manually attack, but you assign their attacks as you would in other traditional RPGs. It doesn't play out as an action title, but it's about as linear as one. I wouldn't consider it an action/adventure game tho lol...

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[QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Uh, God of War III is an action/adventure game... FFXIII is not. It's an RPG.IronBass
GoW is an action game. Zelda is an Action/Adventure game.

Nah, they're both Action/adventure games except Zelda has more RPG elements.

See? Legend of Zelda = Action/Adventure

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Pretty sure its already passed 1 million.

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In a sense, he's correct. However, the core gameplay is menu/turn based. You don't control your characters movements and you don't manually attack, but you assign their attacks as you would in other traditional RPGs. It doesn't play out as an action title, but it's about as linear as one.Some-Mist
Turn based attacks is not what makes a game more RPGish than other. It's just a gameplay mechanic, oposed to real time. That's how ActionRPGs were born, for not using that mechanic.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="GordonRamsay23"]Uh, God of War III is an action/adventure game... FFXIII is not. It's an RPG.GordonRamsay23

GoW is an action game. Zelda is an Action/Adventure game.

Nah, they're both Action/adventure games except Zelda has more RPG elements.

See? Legend of Zelda = Action/Adventure

GoW and Zelda are not the same genre. Action/Hack&Slash =/= Action/Adventure. Linking me to the Wiki page
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You'z def trollin!siLVURcross
:'( I'll troll you in a second:!:
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I just guessing here but perhaps because the better JRPG game can be had for less then half the price...

:P

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]There are much better games, esp RPG's, than FF on the 360? :)IronBass
Like... [spoiler] Mass Effect 2 :o [/spoiler]

This^^^
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I just guessing here but perhaps because the better JRPG game can be had for less then half the price...

:P

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So what's taking Losy Odyssey so long to sell 1 million units? Arent Xbox owners grateful to Mistwalker for giving them an exclusive RPG?

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[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]In a sense, he's correct. However, the core gameplay is menu/turn based. You don't control your characters movements and you don't manually attack, but you assign their attacks as you would in other traditional RPGs. It doesn't play out as an action title, but it's about as linear as one.IronBass
Turn based attacks is not what makes a game more RPGish than other. It's just a gameplay mechanic, oposed to real time. That's how ActionRPGs were born, for not using that mechanic.

but I didn't claim FFXIII as an action rpg. I call it an rpg. You're calling it an action / adventure title. I'm not claiming one game has more rpg elements than another, I'm saying that FFXIII is classified as an rpg, whereas Mass Effect is considered a action/rpg hybrid. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

if it helps you any, gamespot has these following genres listed

Mass Effect 2: Action/RPG

Final Fantasy XIII: RPG

I always thought a traditional rpg was a combination of the story, gameplay (whether it's turn-based, action-turn based or whatever), and exploration. I'm not talking about action-rpgs, or strategy-rpgs. I'm talking about traditional dungeon crawling rpgs along the lines of final fantasy, xenogears, shin megami tensei games, and the chrono games.

Although I never mentioned which game is more RPG-ish, I would say the game labeled RPG as opposed to Action/RPG would have more RPG elements in it. Just sayin.

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I just guessing here but perhaps because the better JRPG game can be had for less then half the price...

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god i hope FF13 is at least better than Lost Odyssey :?
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I guess since it's not a shooter it'll struggle to sell as well on the 360.
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but I didn't claim FFXIII as an action rpg. I call it an rpg. You're calling it an action / adventure title. I'm not claiming one game has more rpg elements than another, I'm saying that FFXIII is classified as an rpg, whereas Mass Effect is considered a action/rpg hybrid. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

if it helps you any, gamespot has these following genres listed

Mass Effect 2: Action/RPG

Final Fantasy XIII: RPG

I always thought a traditional rpg was a combination of the story, gameplay, and exploration. I'm not talking about action-rpgs, or strategy-rpgs. I'm talking about traditional dungeon crawling rpgs along the lines of final fantasy, xenogears, shin megami tensei games, and the chrono games.

Although I never mentioned which game is more RPG-ish, I would say the game labeled RPG as opposed to Action/RPG would have more RPG elements in it. Just sayin.

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I didn't say you called an ActionRPG =/

You used the turn-based gameplay to say that FFXIII is more RPGish, I just pointed out that TB does not necessarily mean more RPGish.

Just sayin'.

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#50 Grawse
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I thought 360 sales don't mean anything?