So what's the top selling traditional third party game on the wii.

I am sorry but no matter how much it sells if traditional third party games do not sell well on the wii then we hardcore gamers have nothing to do with that system cuz that will obviously mean that those games future is bleak on the wii.And if a third party game like brain age or healh pack or whatever sells well then it simply doesnt matter and dont tell me that u care for those games.If anything 3rd partys may concentrate on those games more which will be bad for the wii and the industry as well.

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

Nemme

The most appropiate response to the wiis constant bashing. I salute you. 

Everyday we have a new Wii announcement. The Wii will get LOTS of 3rd party support. Its pretty weak right now. But it will be great.

Sonic?Hewkii

Sonic is the most selling third party game? I thought it was Red Steel.  

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]Sonic?phatkav

Sonic is the most selling third party game? I thought it was Red Steel.

5.5

Personally, Nintendo has done a phenominal job in keeping thier words and actually expanding thier target audience with Wii. As for me buying one, I may once I see games that interest me aside from the next Zelda or Mario. So far, there's nothing that appeals to me as far as 3rd parties go.

This is definitely a new age for Nintendo, but definetly NOT the Golden Age of Nintendo like it was in the 1980s to mid 1990s. There's 2 and maybe 3, if you count the PC, platforms to look forward to when it comes to 3rd party games. :) 

[QUOTE="Nemme"]

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

hyruledweller

The most appropiate response to the wiis constant bashing. I salute you. 

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="Nemme"]

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

musacircuit

The most appropiate response to the wiis constant bashing. I salute you.

Again Musa, it's our taste in games, they just don't appeal to us. They could bring out 50+ 'good games' but we still may not like them, yet the majority will. 

Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.Iyethar

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.musacircuit

... What the hell do you consider a "traditional" third party game, then?  :roll: 

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="Nemme"]

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

Nemme

The most appropiate response to the wiis constant bashing. I salute you.

Again Musa, it's our taste in games, they just don't appeal to us. They could bring out 50+ 'good games' but we still may not like them, yet the majority will. 

[QUOTE="Nemme"]

Why do people get upset over the Wii's success?

I have no plans of buying one due to none of the games appealing to me, but that's just my own opinion. Seems people think every console should be tailored to their own needs.

hyruledweller

The most appropiate response to the wiis constant bashing. I salute you.

Probably Madden. I don't think Sonic has sold as much as Madden.Jandurin

What about Red Steel?  That's sold a lot, and despite the reviews, a lot of people seem to like it. 

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Probably Madden. I don't think Sonic has sold as much as Madden.Tylendal

What about Red Steel? That's sold a lot, and despite the reviews, a lot of people seem to like it.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Probably Madden. I don't think Sonic has sold as much as Madden.Jandurin

What about Red Steel? That's sold a lot, and despite the reviews, a lot of people seem to like it.

You do that.  I'm too lazy, and don't care enough, to look up stuff like that.  I just have minions like you do it for me :P 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.musacircuit

You said 'traditional' games.  The sports genre is a very traditional console genre and nearly always has some brand or another associated.  

You're not interested in actually engaging in discussion, you just want to run down the Wii. 

1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo): 1 030 750
2. Red Steel (Ubisoft): 257 750
3. Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft): 215 750
4. Madden NFL 07 (Electronic Arts): 202 500
5. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Sega): 196 500
6. Call of Duty 3 (Activision): 174 000
7. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (Activision): 158 000
8. Excite Truck (Nintendo): 147 000
9. Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus): 119 250
10. Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari): 96 000
11. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision): 92 000
12. Need for Speed: Carbon (Electronic Arts): 81 000
13. Elebits (Konami): 64 750
14. Rampage: Total Destruction (Midway): 63 500
15. SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab (THQ): 49 250
16. GT Pro Series (Ubisoft): 47 500
17. Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ): 44 000
18. Cars (THQ): 42 000
19. Super Swing Golf Pangya (Tecmo): 37 750
20. Monster 4x4: World Circuit (Ubisoft): 37 250
21. Happy Feet (Midway): 36 500
22. Metal Slug Anthology (SNK): 35 500
23. Rapala Trophies: Pro Tournament Fishing (Activision): 32 500
24. Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft): 28 250
25. Far Cry: Vengeance (Ubisoft): 17 750
26. The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy (Midway): 12 250
27. Open Season (Ubisoft): 9 750
28. World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions (Activision): 8 250
29. Barnyard (THQ): 6 750
30. Disney's Chicken Little: Ace In Action (Buena Vista Games): 4 750
31. The Ant Bully (Midway): 3 000

As of February 5th in the US.

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.Jandurin

... What the hell do you consider a "traditional" third party game, then?  :roll: 

1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo): 1 030 750
2. Red Steel (Ubisoft): 257 750
3. Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft): 215 750

As of February 5th in the US.

Jandurin

Hah, I knew it.  Good job, Igor. 

1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo): 1 030 750
2. Red Steel (Ubisoft): 257 750
3. Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft): 215 750
4. Madden NFL 07 (Electronic Arts): 202 500
5. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Sega): 196 500
6. Call of Duty 3 (Activision): 174 000
7. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (Activision): 158 000
8. Excite Truck (Nintendo): 147 000
9. Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus): 119 250
10. Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Atari): 96 000
11. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam (Activision): 92 000
12. Need for Speed: Carbon (Electronic Arts): 81 000
13. Elebits (Konami): 64 750
14. Rampage: Total Destruction (Midway): 63 500
15. SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab (THQ): 49 250
16. GT Pro Series (Ubisoft): 47 500
17. Avatar: The Last Airbender (THQ): 44 000
18. Cars (THQ): 42 000
19. Super Swing Golf Pangya (Tecmo): 37 750
20. Monster 4x4: World Circuit (Ubisoft): 37 250
21. Happy Feet (Midway): 36 500
22. Metal Slug Anthology (SNK): 35 500
23. Rapala Trophies: Pro Tournament Fishing (Activision): 32 500
24. Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent (Ubisoft): 28 250
25. Far Cry: Vengeance (Ubisoft): 17 750
26. The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy (Midway): 12 250
27. Open Season (Ubisoft): 9 750
28. World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions (Activision): 8 250
29. Barnyard (THQ): 6 750
30. Disney's Chicken Little: Ace In Action (Buena Vista Games): 4 750
31. The Ant Bully (Midway): 3 000

As of February 5th in the US.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.musacircuit

... What the hell do you consider a "traditional" third party game, then? :roll:

Who are you to say whether a game is good or not.  It's all a matter of opinion.  Most people would say that Starfox Assault sucks, but I disagree.  It's all a matter of opinion.  Also, I hate it when people change the rules, trying to deprive you of your evidance.  There is no such thing as "doesn't count".  Everything counts, because otherwise it's not the real situation. 

That is quite MISERABLE considering the already large userbase of the wii.musacircuit

[QUOTE="musacircuit"]That is BEYOND AMAZINGJandurin

You see it works like this. The more wiis that are sold the more developers want to make games for a system that will actually shift their products. The less the ps3 continues to sell the more developers will begin looking towards the wii and xbox360 to produce games for.Equinox9

[QUOTE="Equinox9"]You see it works like this. The more wiis that are sold the more developers want to make games for a system that will actually shift their products. The less the ps3 continues to sell the more developers will begin looking towards the wii and xbox360 to produce games for.musacircuit

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Equinox9"]You see it works like this. The more wiis that are sold the more developers want to make games for a system that will actually shift their products. The less the ps3 continues to sell the more developers will begin looking towards the wii and xbox360 to produce games for.Jandurin

"Well, I guess I'll have to do this manually"

I think what musacircuit is saying, is that games on a system with less games for it will have less competition from other developers.  Or I might be completely wrong... :? 

5.5

 

Nike_Air

Eh, it was more or less worth a 7.0.

Oh, wait, you don't have any opinions of your own, do you?  

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Equinox9"]You see it works like this. The more wiis that are sold the more developers want to make games for a system that will actually shift their products. The less the ps3 continues to sell the more developers will begin looking towards the wii and xbox360 to produce games for.Tylendal

"Well, I guess I'll have to do this manually"

I think what musacircuit is saying, is that games on a system with less games for it will have less competition from other developers. Or I might be completely wrong... :?

I believe he was trying to say that devs wont change to wii because they would have to change the type of their games. But his post is more gibberish-like to me than 1337 speak.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musacircuit"]U see there r chances that with a less userbase a developer is able to sell more of his game on the ps3 than with the large userbase of the wii who do not like his game as much which is built on his decades of expertise and ideas.And he isnt willing to change all of a sudden and chances r that he wont be that good anymore if he changed.reaperstoll

"Well, I guess I'll have to do this manually"

I think what musacircuit is saying, is that games on a system with less games for it will have less competition from other developers. Or I might be completely wrong... :?

I believe he was trying to say that devs wont change to wii because they would have to change the type of their games. But his post is more gibberish-like to me than 1337 speak.

Well, since my translator broke down, I had to do it manually, so that's probably why I made an error.  Yours sound like the more reasonable explanation.  What we really need is musa to come back and explain in english. 

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.Tylendal

... What the hell do you consider a "traditional" third party game, then? :roll:

Who are you to say whether a game is good or not.  It's all a matter of opinion.  Most people would say that Starfox Assault sucks, but I disagree.  It's all a matter of opinion.  Also, I hate it when people change the rules, trying to deprive you of your evidance.  There is no such thing as "doesn't count".  Everything counts, because otherwise it's not the real situation. 

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]Tiger Woods is on top of Wii sales right at the moment.musacircuit

... What the hell do you consider a "traditional" third party game, then? :roll:

Who are you to say whether a game is good or not. It's all a matter of opinion. Most people would say that Starfox Assault sucks, but I disagree. It's all a matter of opinion. Also, I hate it when people change the rules, trying to deprive you of your evidance. There is no such thing as "doesn't count". Everything counts, because otherwise it's not the real situation.

The idea of ratings is if the game is good for any gamer. Plus non-gamers don't care about games, because they don't play them.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]Sonic?phatkav

Sonic is the most selling third party game? I thought it was Red Steel.  

I think it may be madden actually, its above 300 K now, and Red steel is no longer on the charts

Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pDKII

[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="musacircuit"]U see there r chances that with a less userbase a developer is able to sell more of his game on the ps3 than with the large userbase of the wii who do not like his game as much which is built on his decades of expertise and ideas.And he isnt willing to change all of a sudden and chances r that he wont be that good anymore if he changed.Tylendal

"Well, I guess I'll have to do this manually"

I think what musacircuit is saying, is that games on a system with less games for it will have less competition from other developers. Or I might be completely wrong... :?

I believe he was trying to say that devs wont change to wii because they would have to change the type of their games. But his post is more gibberish-like to me than 1337 speak.

Well, since my translator broke down, I had to do it manually, so that's probably why I made an error.  Yours sound like the more reasonable explanation.  What we really need is musa to come back and explain in english. 

With that there r chances that in the future such games wont come on the wii but the majority of the userbase wont care much anyways.The real loss over here is of a REAL GAMER who is a wii owner.

My whole point of discussion is that crazy wii sales does not ensure good games in the future for the real gamers unlike the ps2.And plz dont mix casuals with non-gamers,they r completely different set of ppl when it comes to what and how much software they will buy.

[QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pJandurin

I like it.  It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game". 

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pIyethar

I like it.  It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game". 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pmusacircuit

I like it. It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game".

Pokemon's not a real game?  Lulz. 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pmusacircuit

I like it.  It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game". 

Explain how they are not real games. What constitutes as a game in your mind?

Btw I have a Wii how am I at a loss being a 'real gamer' I'll will be getting my fix of Mario, Zelda and whatever else.

Your point about MGS not being able to sell as much on the Wii as on PS2 is completely wrong. If casuals don't buy stuff like MGS what do you expect them to do? Keep waiting for sequels to Wii Sports? Fact is MGS will be open to a whole new bunch of potential fans if its released on the Wii.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :pmusacircuit

I like it.  It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game". 

Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, NSMB 

reaperstoll did understand what i was aying it seems.Ok i'l try to explain it with an example,chances r that mgs4 would sell more on the ps3 with a userbase of 10 million than on the wii with a userbase of 20 million.Now u ask y,well because the userbase of the wii is completely different than what we have ever seen of a console.

musacircuit

You're just speculating.  Why should we believe what you say is true when you offer no evidence?

With that there r chances that in the future such games wont come on the wii but the majority of the userbase wont care much anyways.The real loss over here is of a REAL GAMER who is a wii owner.

musacircuit

Not really.  Most games only sell to a relatively small portion of any console's userbase.  The more successful the console, the smaller the portion.  If your game sold to 3% of the PS2 userbase in say, 2004, you had a major hit on your hands.

My whole point of discussion is that crazy wii sales does not ensure good games in the future for the real gamers unlike the ps2.And plz dont mix casuals with non-gamers,they r completely different set of ppl when it comes to what and how much software they will buy.

musacircuit

But you're wrong.  The Wii sales are an economic gaurantor of a larger and more varied software library.  This necessarily includes "hardcore" games.  The hypothetical you describe involving hardcore gamers owning the Wii and not being targeted by software publishers is ludicrous on its face.  Software publishers want to sell software.

What you say about the purchasing habits of "real" gamers vs. casuals vs. non-gamers is interesting.  If the real gamers do indeed buy the most games, that means that most games on Wii are likely to be "hardcore".

[QUOTE="musacircuit"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="DKII"]Clearly, a "traditional third party game" is defined as any third party game that is not on the Wii. Duh. :paxt113

I like it. It's kind of like how any DS software that goes platinum instantly becomes a "non-game".

Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, NSMB

All confirmed non-games.