So where is the genre diversity this gen?

Mostly talking about consoles, but outside of indies this applies to PC as well if you exclude them, the genre diversity this generation, has been terrible despite the claims of "new ideas" and "innovation"

Across Wii U, PS4, and XBOXONE at retail there are currently 71 First-Person Shooters that is around 1/4 of the total FPS shooters across Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Nintendo Wii. We have more FPS games in the same time frame then last gen.

There are 18 fighting games excluding ports and expansions, which is more than half less at the same point of time. Across the last gen consoles..

There are 23 Rpgs, that is also slightly over half of what we got last gen in the same time frame, excluding expansions and ports.

There are 20 racing games, again, over half less than what we got in the same time frame last gen.

29 Action Adventure games is about half of what we got last gen in the same time frame.

Heck we don't even have a 3rd of the Sports games and that's one of the most spammed categories in gaming.

So what the heck is going on? One may say its the market, but there are few big player that are stable within it. So i wonder why we aren't getting the genre diversity many companies promised? For example, FPS games, we shouldn't have so many companies trying to take them on, when last gen proved, especially the last few years , that few succeed in getting into the FPS gold mine, while the rest flop or make out even. So why is that happening again? Who knows, I just don't get it.

I mean i figured people would get tired playing the same games over and over, and devs would try and get all that money they seem to be leaving on the ground for some reason but hey.

Just don't buy every single game. The Witcher 3 ? Buy it if you like RPG's. MGS V ? Buy it if you like stealth action games. Bloodborne ? Buy it if you liked the previous Souls games or trying something new.

Get a game with a lot of replayability. I'm still playing Bloodborne and MGS V. Although MGS V is more recent I've already got over 100 hours on it.

If a game requires a lot of your time while being a decent game it'll stop you from buying more games. If you buy too many games over the course of a year, you'll obviously feel like your playing the same games over. Slow down.

I could have sworn when I played Advanced Warfare I played that same game numerous times the last 5 years. i understand what you're saying, but it doesn't always apply. Especially if minimum changes are done.

The Triple A front is super safe and boring lately, it also doesn't help that for the better part of 2 years for Microsoft, Sony, and 3 years for Nintendo, between the 3 of them they made a whopping 2 games that actually come off as something new and different, and both are published by Nintendo in Splatoon and The Wonderful 101. Ergo a lot of the real diversity is on PC, because of not just the indie stuff but the middle tier stuff as well coming either from finished games that came out of the early access hell hole, or kickstarter projects finally making good on their pitch.

There is also less triple A games being made, because there are less triple A developers.

Wii U has good diversity.

@mesome713:

35 platformers, 8 shooters in general, 4 rpgs, 15 action adventure games.

It has the same problems as the other two consoles just opposite themes.

This gen for consoles has been.............lazy for lack of a better word.

You are not looking in the right place. There is whole another world outside of 2 or 3 publishers.

Real Time Tactics

Space Sim

Traditional RTS

Twitch Shooter

Horror Shooter

MMO

Turn Based Strategy

FPS/RPG Hybrid

Stealth Action

cRPG

Point and Click Adventure

And so on.

This gen has more diversity than last gen, flooded with grey shooters.

PS4 has a shit ton of diversity, you obviously dont know what your talking about

It has so much more then that, your only looking at certain gengres, what about all the others Wii U has?

Not really. By virtue of the fact that we still had a middle tier early last gen, no this gen has not more diversity than last gen.

You're fooling yourself the Wii U is no better than the Xbox one and PS4. The genres I listed for each are among the top for each system across Wii U, XBOXONE, and PS4

@trianglemurda: But what about what you didnt list? Why are you not including puzzle games, online coop, multiplayer, adventure, platformers, party games, dance, horror, RTS, fitness, etc?

Why are you only asking this for Nintendo and not the other systems? And if one genre is almost 50% of the library the rest of your point is moot for all 3 consoles.

@trianglemurda: Cause i replied Wii U has good diversity. Which it does. Wii U even has an MMO. Its got everything.

23 FPS, 15 AA games, 10 racing games, 26 sports games.

Looks very similar to ending years of last gen to me.

@trianglemurda: What can we say, gamers got better taste now. Plus the FPSs releasing recently have been awesome. Quality over quantity.

Having pieces of things doens't make it diverse.

If the wii u had 20 platformers, 15 racing games, 17 action adventure games, 12 puzzle games, 14 fighting games, 17 shooters, that would be a diverse library.

BUTTTTT the Wii u has 35 platformers, 8 shooters, 4 rpgs, 15 action adventure games, 3 puzzle games, 8 racing games, and 3 fighting games. 4 when Pokken comes out.

This is mainly a console thread.

What about the 3DS, can you give us a check on that one, its very diverse also. Also, your still forgetting gengres the Wii U has, stop ignoring its diversity, i think your confused on the definition.

Nintendo caters to all gengres and all ages.

With the PS4, WiiU and PC.

That's not what diversity is. If it had 1 rpg that wouldnt be diversity. It would be 1 rpg.

Also the 3DS is not a console, and was not mentioned in the OP.

Also you again are only mentioning nintendo and not the other systems with your flawed argument.

If you had 1 rpg, 1 rts, 1 fps, 1 puzzle game, 1 action adventure, 1 childrens game, 1 mmo, 1 platformer, 1 racing game, 1 feminine game, 1 fighting game, 1 sport game, you would have a very diverse library.

3DS is a portable console. Per Wiki,

"The Nintendo 3DS (Japanese: ニンテンドー3DS Hepburn: Nintendō Surī Dī Esu?, abbreviated to 3DS) is a portable game console produced by Nintendo."

Fixed.

It's the same every generation what's your problem

Last gen didn't have diversity of current gen. Only 2 good years were 2006 and 2007. After that everyone was chasing COD money. During entire last gen, we never saw a single story based Space game, we didn't seen any top down cRPG, we didn't see any non linear FPS after Crysis. Everyone was chasing COD money, even some of the strategy games were turned into shooters including Syndicate, Commandos and XCom.

FPS games are cheap and easy to make and have a chance of selling like hotcakes, not hard to understand why those get pushed out.

Other games involve some sort of risk, if you are making something totally new you are risking the game potentially not being fun. Designing game mechanics and rules and lore is not easy.

Publishers just like taking the safe option.

Nope it was right the first time.

On PS4 I have JRPGs, shooters, adventure games, platformers and fighters.

Oh wait you're anti-Sony I forgot.

Yes you are right, but that's not what happened, what happened is 50 platformers 1 rpg, 1 racing game, 1 fighting game retc. that's not diversity in the library.

And again the 3DS is not a console (you just proved my point) and it was not mentioned in the OP.

@trianglemurda: O, ok.

Uh no, there was a lot of diversity, even during the chasing. A lot of studios closed down during those years trying to break through that but they still ut out games/

Tell that to Crytek, EA, Microsoft, Sony and 2K.

>5 genres

>Diversity

If there isn't a high chance of profitability, no big-name console publisher wants to touch it.

Go to PC if you want diversity. It literally has high-quality representation across every single available genre.

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@davem1992 said:

@skelly34 said:

@davem1992 said:

With the WiiU and PC.

Fixed.

Nope it was right the first time.

On PS4 I have JRPGs, shooters, adventure games, platformers and fighters.

Oh wait you're anti-Sony I forgot.

>5 genres

>Diversity

More diversity that what Xbox One gives me and guess what, those 5 genres are my fav genres so I'm happy.

Stop crying anti-Sony troll.

Entire genres were missing. No variety bruh.

Diversity is on the PS4.

Im sorry what genres were missing last gen?

If you only restrict yourself to triple A studios and publishers, then yeah, your gaming life will be quite stale and boring.

This gen is the best by a long shot.

71 FPS games aren't all AAA games. That includes mid and low tier retail games. As do the other genres.

When your favorite genre is fps you got so many choice, but when it's something else the wait can be decent or very long.

PC?

Story driven Space Sims, cRPGs, Arena Shooters, Stealth etc. The industry was flooded with COD clones. Everyone was trying to turn their games into COD. Have you seen original Doom 4 prototype from last gen?

Now just like everything else it went back to its old school roots (not too old school but still way better than COD clone). Some of the best strategy franchises like Syndicate, Commandos, XCom 2 etc were all turned into shooters. On other hand we had zero Spy Shooters... Absolutely not a single one.

Zero Stealth game like Tenchu or Thief or original Splinter Cell trilogy. Thanks to the fact that "history repeats itself", mid-tier and even some AAA devs are bringing back what was missing last gen.

Has there been a game for Skyfall?

Besides PC since it doesn't have a generation.....on PS4.

FPS - Destiny & Killzone

Story driven movie game - Until Dawn

Sports - all the EA crap and the good 2K series

Racing - Driveclub with motorcycles coming soon

Adventure - Nathan Drake collection with UC4 coming soon

Hack n Slash - God of War 3 remaster

All round excellent game - The Last of Us remaster

Open World - Second Son

Stealth - MGSV & AC

Good indie games - many of them usually free with PS+

Arcade - Trials Fusion

Fighting - MKX and SFV soon

@davem1992 said:

@skelly34 said:

@davem1992 said:

@skelly34 said:

Fixed.

Nope it was right the first time.

On PS4 I have JRPGs, shooters, adventure games, platformers and fighters.

Oh wait you're anti-Sony I forgot.

>5 genres

>Diversity

More diversity that what Xbox One gives me and guess what, those 5 genres are my fav genres so I'm happy.

Stop crying anti-Sony troll.

Having more diversity than a Microsoft console is not exactly a crowning achievement.

On a side note, what kind of brain-fucked, corporate bitchslave gets angry when someone attacks a company? I know that Sony might have shown you more affection than your parents ever did, but you have to realize that companies like Sony are like strippers. They don't actually like you, they just pretend to so you give them your money,

Do people not even realize that last gen was a battle royal between publishers, IPs, developers, and not just between Sony, MS, and Nintendo? That all those studios going out of business (or some publishers even), all those franchises abandoned, or or ruined forever with terrible sequels, that's not normal. Not at the rate of last gen. It was a gold rush, an arms race, and many fell failing to compete.

The lack of games and variety can be attributed to a lot. Obviously a lack of seasoned developers. Lack of well funded projects. Fickle gaming mob. Big publishers playing it safe. Horrible used game industry hurting smaller developers who do branch out with new ideas. And, most of all, gamers themselvea who only go out and buy COD instead of celebrating innovation.

Once i get enough cash to make my dream game - A story driven game where you build the fastest car in the universe, with bosses ranging from bullet trains to jets to comets to God in a 2020 Bugati prototype car.

Just give me time so i can please your ungratefull ass.

Of the current gen games that have resonated with me the most and have taken up most of my time, there's

3 platformers

1 Hack n Slash

1 Fighter

1 RTS/Action Adventure

1 RPG

I've been able to diversify pretty well.

devs make games based on what the publishers think that it will sell well. So you only have the market to blame for the lack of diversity but I don't complain.

Well the sort of FPS games I was referring to was the linear corridor shooters.

If they are not cheap to make then they should be, open world RPG games in comparison have a lot more going on. If any FPS game costs more than say Witcher 3 then they are wasting their cash.