So who really won in 2008??

Article from gamespot LINK

First paragrah reads as follows...

As 2008 dawned, it appeared as if the gaming industry would emerge from its postholiday stupor older, wiser, and cash-flush in the wake of months of stellar games. Indeed, the unequivocally successful holiday 2007 retail season led the industry to $17.9 billion in domestic sales, a staggering 43 percent year-over-year climb. Add in PC games, and that domestic figure closed in on $19 billion

Wow so PC gaming only added 1.1 billion! Wow I wonder who this makes dominate in the gaming industry??

There have only been two measurements of winning when at SW. Sales and Games. When using games GS's scores are the only metric that counts.

PC = Games

Wii = Sales

There have only been two measurements of winning when at SW. Sales and Games. When using games GS's scores are the only metric that counts.

PC = Games

Wii = Sales

Blackbond

good job at ending the thread. :P

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

Article from gamespot LINK

First paragrah reads as follows...

As 2008 dawned, it appeared as if the gaming industry would emerge from its postholiday stupor older, wiser, and cash-flush in the wake of months of stellar games. Indeed, the unequivocally successful holiday 2007 retail season led the industry to $17.9 billion in domestic sales, a staggering 43 percent year-over-year climb. Add in PC games, and that domestic figure closed in on $19 billion

Wow so PC gaming only added 1.1 billion! Wow I wonder who this makes dominate in the gaming industry??

tenaka2

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26734055&msg_id=308506500#308506500

Well thats all the ownage I needed to see today lol. Seriously how many Anti PC threads are you going to make? We get it you don't like PC's. We don't need a constant reminder everyday that you don't. We aren't going to forget it.

PC number are much lower and goes as follows by the link given

Best-selling PC Games of 2007, by units sold
1. World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack--Vivendi Games--2.25 million
2. World of Warcraft--Vivendi Games--914,000
3. The Sims 2: Seasons Expansion Pack--Electronic Arts--433,000
4. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare--Activision--383,000
5. Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars--Electronic Arts--343,000
6. Sim City 4 Deluxe--Electronic Arts--284,000
7. The Sims 2--Electronic Arts--281,000
8. The Sims 2: Bon Voyage Expansion Pack--Electronic Arts--271,000
9. Age of Empires III--Microsoft--259,000
10. The Sims 2: Pets Expansion Pack--Electronic Arts--236,000

[UPDATE]: The NPD Group has since issued a corrected list of the best-selling PC games of the year. No explanation for the erroneous list was provided, but the changes are mostly slight; The Sims 2 jumped from seventh to third, and its Pets Expansion Pack fell off the charts entirely, replaced by Microsoft Flight Simulator X. The revised list is below:

Best-selling PC Games of 2007, by units sold
1. World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack--Vivendi Games--2.25 million
2. World of Warcraft--Vivendi Games--914,000
3. The Sims 2--Electronic Arts--534,000
4. The Sims 2: Seasons Expansion Pack--Electronic Arts--433,000
5. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare--Activision--383,000
6. Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars--Electronic Arts--350,000
7. Age of Empires III--Microsoft--313,000
8. Sim City 4--Electronic Arts--294,000
9. Flight Simulator X--Microsoft--280,000
10. The Sims 2: Bon Voyage Expansion Pack--Electronic Arts--272,000

Console numbers are much higher and they go as follows

THE NPD GROUP's 2007 US GAME INDUSTRY SALES

Category / Total / Change
Video Games: $17.94 billion +43%
Video Games Hardware: $7.04 billion +54%
Console Hardware: $5.12 billion +73%
Portable Game Hardware: $1.92 billion +19%
Video Games Software: $8.64 billion +34%
Console Software: $6.64 billion +39%
Portable Game Software: $2.00 billion +18%
Video Game Accessories: $2.26 billion +52%

Hardware Sales (in units sold)
Nintendo DS: 8.50 million (17.65 million LTD)
Wii: 6.29 million (7.38 million LTD)
Xbox 360: 4.62 million (9.15 million LTD)
PlayStation 2: 3.97 million (41.12 million LTD)
PlayStation Portable: 3.82 million (10.47 million LTD)
PlayStation 3: 2.56 million (3.25 million LTD)

Game Software (in units sold)
1) Halo 3 (360, Microsoft) - 4.82 million
2) Wii Play with Wii Remote (Wii, Nintendo) - 4.12 million
3) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (360, Activision) - 3.04 million
4) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PS2, Activision) - 2.72 million
5) Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo) - 2.52 million
6) Pokémon Diamond (DS, Nintendo) - 2.48 million
7) Madden NFL 08 (PS2, Electronic Arts) - 1.9 million
8) Guitar Hero II (PS2, Activision) - 1.89 million
9) Assassin's Creed (360, Ubisoft) - 1.87 million
10) Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo) - 1.82 million

THE NPD GROUP's DECEMBER 2007 US GAME INDUSTRY SALES

Category / Total / Change
Video Games: $4.82 billion +28%
Video Games Hardware: $1.83 billion +17%
Console Hardware $1.3 billion: +21%
Portable Game Hardware: $525,700 +7%
Video Games Software: $2.37 billion +36%
Console Software $1.8 billion: +47%
Portable Game Software: $574,900 +11%
Video Game Accessories: $621,600 +37%

Hardware Sales (in units sold)
Nintendo DS: 2.47 million
Wii: 1.35 million
Xbox 360: 1.26 million
PlayStation 2: 1.1 million
PlayStation Portable: 1.06 million
PlayStation 3: 797,600

Game Software (in units sold)
1) Call of Duty 4: Modern Combat (360, Activision) - 1.47 million
2) Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo) - 1.40 million
3) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PS2, Activision) - 1.25 million
4) Wii Play with Wii Remote (Wii, Nintendo) - 1.08 million
5) Assassin's Creed (360, Ubisoft) - 893,700
6) Halo 3 (360, Microsoft) - 742,700
7) Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day (DS, Nintendo) - 659,500
8) Madden NFL 08 (PS2, Electronic Arts) - 655,200
9) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (360, Activision) - 624,600
10) Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii, Sega) - 613,000

the world doesnt revolve around america

PC got the most and best games this year.

The Wii got the best sales this year.

Are you tryign to make the point that all consoles combined along with handheld devices outsold PC games sales?

Can you show PC hardware figures for the year 2008 please?

tenaka2

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

PC got the most and best games this year.

The Wii got the best sales this year.

Are you tryign to make the point that all consoles combined along with handheld devices outsold PC games sales?

Can you show PC hardware figures for the year 2008 please?

jasonheyman

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

And yet none of that matters here in SW only GS's score. I suggest you go over to the gaf, gametrailers, or 1UP forums or something.

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

jasonheyman

An AA+ game is an AA+ game, regardless of what awards it got. And, ultimately, everyone has his or her own standards for GOTY, best graphics, etc. Gamespot certainly has theirs.

And, honestly, your consistent bashing of PC gaming is alarming. Do you somehow feel threatened by PC gaming? You certainly act like it. What areyou so afraid of? Honestly, why must you copy and paste new threads every signle day using the same argument, even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

organic_machine

An AA+ game is an AA+ game, regardless of what awards it got. And, ultimately, everyone has his or her own standards for GOTY, best graphics, etc. Gamespot certainly has theirs.

And, honestly, your consistent bashing of PC gaming is alarming. Do you somehow feel threatened by PC gaming? You certainly act like it. What areyou so afraid of? Honestly, why must you copy and paste new threads every signle day using the same argument, even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again.

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

jasonheyman

An AA+ game is an AA+ game, regardless of what awards it got. And, ultimately, everyone has his or her own standards for GOTY, best graphics, etc. Gamespot certainly has theirs.

And, honestly, your consistent bashing of PC gaming is alarming. Do you somehow feel threatened by PC gaming? You certainly act like it. What areyou so afraid of? Honestly, why must you copy and paste new threads every signle day using the same argument, even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again.

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

What's with always putting FACT in capitals? It doesn't make it any more factual.

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

jasonheyman

A simple fact may deceiving. When in the court of law, you are asked to speak the "truth and the whole truth." That is because there is a difference between simple "facts," and thw whole truth. You always cling to simple facts. But those simple facts don't at all give an accurate picture of the picture as a whole. At all. Yes, you posted NA domestic sales. But those do not iunclude Digital Distribution, which is absolutely HUGE. It does not include the amount of money publishers and developers are making. There are more ways for publishers and devs to make money other than domestic sales.

So while you often have "facts" to back you up, you don't have the whole truth. You are in denial. Every single thread. And you most certaibnly do get owned in every single thread. You just simply deny it. Most SW users, even console only gamers will attest to the fact you've been owned in almost every single thread you make. Because of your logic and your denial.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

PC got the most and best games this year.

The Wii got the best sales this year.

Are you tryign to make the point that all consoles combined along with handheld devices outsold PC games sales?

Can you show PC hardware figures for the year 2008 please?

jasonheyman

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

How many of those AA+ games got awards this year? Best graphics? GotY? Ah that = none ;)

jasonheyman

An AA+ game is an AA+ game, regardless of what awards it got. And, ultimately, everyone has his or her own standards for GOTY, best graphics, etc. Gamespot certainly has theirs.

And, honestly, your consistent bashing of PC gaming is alarming. Do you somehow feel threatened by PC gaming? You certainly act like it. What areyou so afraid of? Honestly, why must you copy and paste new threads every signle day using the same argument, even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again.

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

An AA+ game is an AA+ game, regardless of what awards it got. And, ultimately, everyone has his or her own standards for GOTY, best graphics, etc. Gamespot certainly has theirs.

And, honestly, your consistent bashing of PC gaming is alarming. Do you somehow feel threatened by PC gaming? You certainly act like it. What areyou so afraid of? Honestly, why must you copy and paste new threads every signle day using the same argument, even thought you've been proven wrong time and time again.

nmaharg

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

So your saying consoles are nowhere near what a PC can do? :lol: Ok?? They are very close to PC performance yet are cheaper and less hassle

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

Proven wrong I don't think so lmao :roll: Why is it so hard to accept the FACT that consoles are more dominate in the gaming industry ;) I mean really it's not a big deal! I;m just pointing out the facts and the links I gave are from this website;)

jasonheyman

So your saying consoles are nowhere near what a PC can do? :lol: Ok?? They are very close to PC performance yet are cheaper and less hassle

So your saying consoles are nowhere near what a PC can do? :lol: Ok?? They are very close to PC performance yet are cheaper and less hasslejasonheyman

Go Go Console Gaming! Du, du, du, du, du!

Go Go Console Gaming! Du, du, du, du, du!

Go Go Console Gaming! You Mighty Morphin Console Gai-eh-ming!

I'm sorry but I find it freaking hilarious how the console Mavericks go at eachother left and right when its Wii/360/PS3 but when PC is involved all of a sudden they are united like the freaking MegaZord. Not only this but they all count as one platform instead of three individual ones.

But I guess they are all one platform just like THE MEGA ZORD!!!

Go Go Console Gaming! Du, du, du, du, du!

Go Go Console Gaming! Du, du, du, du, du!

Go Go Console Gaming! You Mighty Morphin Console Gai-eh-ming!

I'm sorry but I find it freaking hilarious how the console Mavericks go at eachother left and right when its Wii/360/PS3 but when PC is involved all of a sudden they are united like the freaking MegaZord. Not only this but they all count as one platform instead of three individual ones.

But I guess they are all one platform just like THE MEGA ZORD!!!

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^Acording to IDC the number of x86 PCs sold in 2008 is 302.3 million units (desktops, notebooks and servers). Acording to iSuppli notebook PC shipments in the third quarter of 2008 was 38.6 million units.

So I guess the PC won again the sales numbers. :D

And NPD doesn't track online distribution and online gaming and their revenues. I gues poor Blizzard has to do with sales only, and not any monthly subscribers revenue witch acording to NPD doesn't exist.

EFL Champs are the charlestown Townies.

We Won, We are CHAMPZ!!!