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#1 TheEroica  Moderator
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There seems to be an outcry of epic fanboy perportions not being able to wrap their heads around why/how the 360 is selling so well... I've seen everything from claims that its soccer moms, to "america be da racizt against da weaboos" and everything in between... I don't see how that can be any more clear and apparent... Microsoft has created the complete console for gamers of every stripe... I will explain...

  1. Core gaming- slam dunk for a few reasons... the first is that normal every day core gamers want the very best games that are cutting edge in most catagories... Its no secret to any logical sane human being that the age of the multiplatform is not only here but its producing the very best games... Don't believe me, then check the recent gamespot awards, or sales, or community buzz... Multiplatform games are the norm and will increasingly become more saturated throughout the hobby and while yeah, the exclusive game will always carry some weight, especially when they sell as good as Halo, gears or Gran Tourismo, they no longer bare the weight they once did... mad? go pi$$ up a rope and deal with it.
  2. Microsoft created the desireable online service... yup, close your eyes and think of ALL THOSE THREADS, where some angry cow was complaining about the subscription fee to xbox live and how many times you sat back and thought, "it doesnt really bother me that much", ya see when they were **** about 4 dollars a month, microsoft was busy laying groundwork for creating the most comprehensive and complete console online experience for their customers.... yeah, I said it, ya see, its not just that xbox live offers more (though the two services are quite similar) its that all the little revisions and promotion and care for xbox live, with folks subscription money branded xbl as being THE online serice... meanwhile if youre a ps3 gamer youre enjoying some free multiplayer on the same tired, old and somewhat cold and uninviting UI that you have for years... Its not that ps3 is bad, its just not progressive and dynamic and full featured as xbl and THAT means more than an exclusive will in this day and age... Id even go as far as to say that sony not charging for its online service has near crippled the company moving forward and creating anything near as impressive as xbl...
  3. Kinect is not just a quick cash in on casuals (though its making its mark with them) but also its a functional aspect of xbox navigation and communication that not only seperates itself from the ps3, where voice chat and communication is laughable but also ensures a sense of forward and progressive thinking throughout the console. MS cars as much about the functional uses of kinect through the console as they do about the games themselves.

People want to be "plugged in" to whats cutting edge and whats hot and convienient and fun.... The Ipod isnt the best mp3 player on the market. It doesnt do anything magical, There are mp3 players that do more for less and are every bit as competant as an ipod, but Apple will always smoke everyone in this catagory because they sell the product that people are most "plugged in" to... The online services, the community and the connectivity with fellow gamers this generation are as important as the exclusives were in previous ones and microsoft has captured that. The ps3 isnt a bad console, its quite good, but its not the one that carries buzz and a forward progressive way of thinking... WHY the xbox 360 is so popular is simple, its a connection to core gamers, a connection to casuals and family gamers and a connection the very best in online gaming backed by the most comprehensive and impressive user interfaces in the medium.... so stop scratching your head when 360 has a big month and another ps3 exclusive sells like garbage. The 360 is the one thats "plugged in"

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There seems to be an outcry of epic fanboy perportions not being able to wrap their heads around why/how the 360 is selling so well... I've seen everything from claims that its soccer moms, to "america be da racizt against da weaboos" and everything in between... I don't see how that can be any more clear and apparent... Microsoft has created the complete console for gamers of every stripe... I will explain...

Core gaming- slam dunk for a few reasons... the first is that normal every day core gamers want the very best games that are cutting edge in most catagories... Its no secret to any logical sane human being that the age of the multiplatform is not only here but its producing the very best games... Don't believe me, then check the recent gamespot awards, or sales, or community buzz... Multiplatform games are the norm and will increasingly become more saturated throughout the hobby and while yeah, the exclusive game will always carry some weight, especially when they sell as good as Halo, gears or Gran Tourismo, they no longer bare the weight they once did... mad? go pi$$ up a rope and deal with it.Microsoft created the desireable online service... yup, close your eyes and think of ALL THOSE THREADS, where some angry cow was complaining about the subscription fee to xbox live and how many times you sat back and thought, "it doesnt really bother me that much", ya see when they were **** about 4 dollars a month, microsoft was busy laying groundwork for creating the most comprehensive and complete console online experience for their customers.... yeah, I said it, ya see, its not just that xbox live offers more (though the two services are quite similar) its that all the little revisions and promotion and care for xbox live, with folks subscription money branded xbl as being THE online serice... meanwhile if youre a ps3 gamer youre enjoying some free multiplayer on the same tired, old and somewhat cold and uninviting UI that you have for years... Its not that ps3 is bad, its just not progressive and dynamic and full featured as xbl and THAT means more than an exclusive will in this day and age... Id even go as far as to say that sony not charging for its online service has near crippled the company moving forward and creating anything near as impressive as xbl...Kinect is not just a quick cash in on casuals (though its making its mark with them) but also its a functional aspect of xbox navigation and communication that not only seperates itself from the ps3, where voice chat and communication is laughable but also ensures a sense of forward and progressive thinking throughout the console. MS cars as much about the functional uses of kinect through the console as they do about the games themselves.

People want to be "plugged in" to whats cutting edge and whats hot and convienient and fun.... The Ipod isnt the best mp3 player on the market. It doesnt do anything magical, There are mp3 players that do more for less and are every bit as competant as an ipod, but Apple will always smoke everyone in this catagory because they sell the product that people are most "plugged in" to... The online services, the community and the connectivity with fellow gamers this generation are as important as the exclusives were in previous ones and microsoft has captured that. The ps3 isnt a bad console, its quite good, but its not the one that carries buzz and a forward progressive way of thinking... WHY the xbox 360 is so popular is simple, its a connection to core gamers, a connection to casuals and family gamers and a connection the very best in online gaming backed by the most comprehensive and impressive user interfaces in the medium.... so stop scratching your head when 360 has a big month and another ps3 exclusive sells like garbage. The 360 is the one thats "plugged in"

TheEroica
I agree, the best console on the market always get bashed most often. The jealousy is so bad that cows and sheeps have to hide behind PC.
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#3 tjricardo089
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Blog it. Too much text.

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#4 Bigboi500
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It sells because there are so many soccor moms and bro gamers.

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#5 Floppy_Jim
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Going by the big 3's quarterly reports the 360 has been the least popular console globally :? Unless you're just talking about America.

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#6 TheEroica  Moderator
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Blog it. Too much text.

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thanks for the advice but no... its not blog worthy, trying to set it straight and get some discussion...
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#7 ReadingRainbow4
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Lol, didn't read. Looks like a bowl of tripe anyway. 2/10.
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#8 lundy86_4  Online
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Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude... TL: DR!

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#9 Badosh
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Too short, won't read.
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#10 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Lol, didn't read. Looks like a bowl of tripe anyway. 2/10.

coming from a level 1 with 45 posts who didnt read it, I wont really take offense...
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#11 ReadingRainbow4
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You should. Levar Burton thinks your book sucks.
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#12 ultraking
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You should. Levar Burton thinks your book sucks.ReadingRainbow4
lol
You should. Levar Burton thinks your book sucks.ReadingRainbow4
lol
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#13 SolidOcelot42
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tl;dr
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#14 Goyoshi12
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My brain will explode if I try and read that giant wall of text. BUT I MUST! :o

I'll be back in about 20 years after I have finished reading it. :P

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#15 AmazonTreeBoa
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I couldn't care less how good or bad the 360 sales. It still only has 3 games for me regardless of how it sales.
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#16 Deathtransit
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I like my 360, but sales don't mean it's better. If that were true, then Wii is the best, Twilight is actually really good, COD is the best franchise, etc...
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I like my 360, but sales don't mean it's better. If that were true, then Wii is the best, Twilight is actually really good, COD is the best franchise, etc...Deathtransit
better is an opinion... Im merely commenting on the "why" it sells better and is a more appealing console.
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#18 princeofshapeir
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Didn't read, but I can tell you that the 360 is the console I legitimately do not care about considering I own a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii. I really don't see the purpose of owning one with a gaming PC and PS3.
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Great post as always Eroica
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]I like my 360, but sales don't mean it's better. If that were true, then Wii is the best, Twilight is actually really good, COD is the best franchise, etc...TheEroica
better is an opinion... Im merely commenting on the "why" it sells better and is a more appealing console.

If it was more appealing it would sell better, which it doesn't. It has more total sales than the ps3, which is not over an equal timeframe. I think you need to learn how to think.

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#21 TheEroica  Moderator
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Great post as always Eroicanavyguy21
Thank you sir... Im sure those who skim it will just claim im crapping on the ps3, even though I say a few times in it that it is a great console, but I'm glad some of us (like you) see whats really going on....
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#23 Slashless
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Great post as always Eroicanavyguy21

49ers suck :o

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Great post as always EroicaSlashless

49ers suck :o

They won today though lol. They beat the saints :P
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#25 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Slashless"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Great post as always Eroicanavyguy21

49ers suck :o

They won today though lol. They beat the saints :P

wow! really? I had the saints in the super bowl... thats a shocker. good for your team.
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#26 Slashless
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They won today though lol. They beat the saints :Pnavyguy21

Shut up ;___;

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Guess what, the Wii sh!ts on both consoles in sales, therefore it sh!ts on both consoles period.

Amirite?

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#28 TheEroica  Moderator
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Guess what, the Wii sh!ts on both consoles in sales, therefore it sh!ts on both consoles period.

Amirite?

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The wii, though not my cup of tea (yes I own one) has done a lot right as well... though I beg to argue its relevance in comparison to the HD twins... but yes, sales do mean something.... actually theyre one of the only truly quantifiable factors in "system wars" everything else is just opinion.
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#29 Vari3ty
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I like both consoles, and I think there are some things each does better. In terms of hardware, I think the PS3 is better, hands down. In terms of online services, the 360 wins. Both have pros and cons, but when it comes down to it other than a few exclusives the consoles are practically exactly the same.

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#30 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Guess what, the Wii sh!ts on both consoles in sales, therefore it sh!ts on both consoles period.

Amirite?

TheEroica

though I beg to argue its relevance in comparison to the HD twins...actually theyre one of the only truly quantifiable factors in "system wars" everything else is just opinion.

Well feel free to, you'd be incredibly wrong though.Because the Wii sold the most.

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#31 ZoomZoom2490
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x360 is all but done and you come out with this thread? nice!

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Slashless"]

49ers suck :o

TheEroica

They won today though lol. They beat the saints :P

wow! really? I had the saints in the super bowl... thats a shocker. good for your team.

Yep. Im not really a 49ers fan, but i think Alex Smith deserves this success after being labeled a bust for so long. The critics ignore that he has had 7 Offensive coordinators since he came into the league. It was a great game though, but im getting off topic :P

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#34 CanYouDiglt
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Very good post TheEroica. It was well thought out and not full of fanboy yelling but sadly I doubt most of the people that need to read it will not.
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#35 TheEroica  Moderator
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Very good post TheEroica. It was well thought out and not full of fanboy yelling but sadly I doubt most of the people that need to read it will not.CanYouDiglt
I realized that about 4 posts in.... doesnt hurt to try i suppose... thanks brother.
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I agree with most of this actually.

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my observation has always been that the majority of lems here made fun of the ps3 while it was a joke then as it delivered many changed their stance a bit and cut it a break and appreciated it for what it did well while the majority of cows around here hated the 360 at launch, hated it during its heyday and now hate it even more as is slips away to obsolescence.

my point? yeah they damaged in the head.

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my observation has always been that the majority of lems here made fun of the ps3 while it was a joke then as it delivered many changed their stance a bit and cut it a break and appreciated it for what it did well while the majority of cows around here hated the 360 at launch, hated it during its heyday and now hate it even more as is slips away to obsolescence.

my point? yeah they damaged in the head.

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This may sadly be true, but why not embrace the change the way we all did when people converted to ps1 from nintendo? Do people really believe sony would lead forever? Could someones mind be that twisted in denial?
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#39 clone01
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

Blog it. Too much text.

TheEroica
thanks for the advice but no... its not blog worthy, trying to set it straight and get some discussion...

Nah...terrible topic. Way too much text.
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#40 Chutebox
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Need a summary, not reading that lol.

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#41 meetroid8
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The head start and lower price are why it out performed the PS3 .It was out sooner, and cheaper too.
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#42 TheEroica  Moderator
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Need a summary, not reading that lol.

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Ah chute, cmon... humor me ;)
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#44 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Need a summary, not reading that lol.

TheEroica
Ah chute, cmon... humor me ;)

K. 360 sucks and you don't know what you're talking about! Give me a minute...
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#45 whiskeystrike
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Less than 5% sales difference, surely this is worth actually caring about.

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#46 Chutebox
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I will say this. Initially, MS grabbed a lot of the core gamers with exclusives and a much cheaper console as well as coming out well before the competition. Now they switched gears and are focusing on a completly different audience. I think, for the most part at least, these are the ones buying 360s now.

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#47 _Cadbury_
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Doubt it. Like Floppy_Jim said, the PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 lately. The difference in sales is so negligible I can't see how anything you've written could be true. There are far more obvious reasons that could explain why the 360 sells better than the PS3, like the fact that it's much cheaper.
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#48 themajormayor
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TL; DR

Fail thread

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#49 djsifer01
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I honesty think none what you wrote has anything to do with 360 sales. Advertising is a big key to there success.
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#50 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

Blog it. Too much text.

clone01
thanks for the advice but no... its not blog worthy, trying to set it straight and get some discussion...

Nah...terrible topic. Way too much text.

disagreeing w8th it doesnt make it terrible... why not contribute.