So Why Do You Think America Gave Up On The PSP? What Would Be The Reason.

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#1 Rahnyc4
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The PSP once called the system to beat nintendo in the handheld market had basically everything the Nintendo portables didnt have at the time. The system at its time was getting a lot of media attention, dwarfing every media nintendo had recieved at the time for the Ds. The machine basically had graphics, able to play movies and music out of the box as well as online decent online gaming gaming.

over the course of years sony end up dropping umd movies support, as well as other features that were promised in the psp. My question is, what went wrong? why did america gave up on the system?

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#2 lundy86_4
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In terms of sales in the states, it still seems to be doing relatively well. Comparatively though, it's doing poorly. Still, it has some good upcoming games and such, but it's a shame Sony has begun scaling back with the PSP, which is natural considering the move to the NGP.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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whoa, who gave up on the psp? i see more people using psp's then ds, also the psp lost alot of third party devs due to piracy and also the umd format failed because sony realized it didn't make sense when you could just download a movie onto your memory stick and store alot of movies on it then carry around lots of umd's.

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#4 lowkey254
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America didn't give up, developers did. When hackers got their hands on the root keys, any game that came out could be downloaded and copied to a stick. Developers had seen this as a risk and only a few still deal with it.

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#5 lamprey263
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Sony never really came back from the PSP Go, since then Nintendo DS seemed to dominate, I believe the reason is because retailers gave less support to the PSP because Sony attempted to yank them out of the equation by going all digital (meaning they'd only sell PSP Go's and get no money from game retail). Top that with the fact that retailers generally don't make money off of console hardware, but rather software, and they had little incentive to sell PSP Go handhelds for Sony. Before the PSP Go most of the major game retailers had large sections devoted to both PSP and Nintendo DS games, roughly equal in size, but since the PSP Go happened game stores quickly shrank their PSP libraries, and even though Sony has since put more effort into marketing the PSP 3000 and give retailers incentive to carry more UMD titles, they haven't recovered since. I myself thought the PSP Go was a terrible idea for many reasons, one being a lot of people aren't comfortable buying things with their credit card online, consoles and handhelds before this have been a very tangible market for buying games. The other reason was that people going into a store to buy a PSP Go or Nintendo DS are going to look at the walls for the games they want to play, if retailers aren't going to sell PSP games anymore then the Nintendo DS section will be the only one to stand out.
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whoa, who gave up on the psp? i see more people using psp's then ds, also the psp lost alot of third party devs due to piracy and also the umd format failed because sony realized it didn't make sense when you could just download a movie onto your memory stick and store alot of movies on it then carry around lots of umd's.

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well someone who lives in new york city i see way more people using a ds, hardly ever see people use a psp. it seems like people dont talk about the psp as they use to.
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#7 hiphop_quotable
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I'm gonna go with piracy.

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#8 Sp4rtan_3
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Because it was inferior to the DS in almost every way (aside from graphics) The US just figured the psp was a waste of time.
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#9 ni6htmare01
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I live in NYC too, but I see alot of PSP.. just about as much as DS..

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#10 FPSDad1161
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I gave up on it because I didn't enjoy the system or the games very much. Not to mention I just don't feel right being a grown man out in public playing a hand held game system anymore lol. PSP would have been great back when I was in high school still. I didn't play it at home either because I had my consoles for that. Hand helds just aren't for me.
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#11 Phazevariance
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Because they were made by Sony, and sony handhelds are crap.

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The PSP once called the system to beat nintendo in the handheld market had basically everything the Nintendo portables didnt have at the time. The system at its time was getting a lot of media attention, dwarfing every media nintendo had recieved at the time for the Ds. The machine basically had graphics, able to play movies and music out of the box as well as online decent online gaming gaming.

over the course of years sony end up dropping umd movies support, as well as other features that were promised in the psp. My question is, what went wrong? why did america gave up on the system?

Rahnyc4

Apparently, technology and media coverage do not win system wars.

Shocking, I know.

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Because it has a terrible library.

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#14 ArchoNils2
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Just today I got the collectors edition of the new Ys and the new Lunar in collectors edition, imported from US ^^ I don't give up the system, in fact I stated several time sthat my Goty last year was ZHP, a PSP exclusive :D

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A lack of localization of its games and the almost exclusive Japanese support.

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The PSP once called the system to beat nintendo in the handheld market had basically everything the Nintendo portables didnt have at the time. The system at its time was getting a lot of media attention, dwarfing every media nintendo had recieved at the time for the Ds. The machine basically had graphics, able to play movies and music out of the box as well as online decent online gaming gaming.

over the course of years sony end up dropping umd movies support, as well as other features that were promised in the psp. My question is, what went wrong? why did america gave up on the system?

Rahnyc4
Coolyfett is an american, he uses his PSP everday. Its a very entertaining device. He has been using the PSP since 2007. So nothing has gone wrong. The PSP is a fun entertaining device. You should get one.
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#17 Coolyfett
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whoa, who gave up on the psp? i see more people using psp's then ds, also the psp lost alot of third party devs due to piracy and also the umd format failed because sony realized it didn't make sense when you could just download a movie onto your memory stick and store alot of movies on it then carry around lots of umd's.

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Very interesting. It takes time to perfect aspects on many devices. The UMD was no different than a GameGear cartridge or Gameboy cartridge. When systems upgrade, they change formats. Coolyfett knows the bootlegged games were bad, but only because they created games worthy of being bootlegged. People bootleg the things they really want, but cant afford. Coolyfett also thinks the UMD came out before the iPhone & iTouch, before itunes was selling videos. The iPod was just picking up when the PSP was releases. All & All digital media is better than physical media anyday. Its way easier to organise, does not collect dust & easy to back up. I really appreciate Apple bringing downloadable movies to the industry. The PSP is a wonderful device & Coolyfett enjoys his very often.
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#18 Seiki_sands
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Some say piracy. That ignores the fact that the DS is just as pirated and yet seems unaffected.

Some say the PSPGo. That ignores the fact that while the PSP outsold the DS in its first year on the back of a truly extraordinary amount of hype and deliberately one-sided coverage, the DS quickly recovered and began outselling it the next year. The PSP was on a downward slope long before the PSPGo was announced.

The fact is some people were clearly disappointed the year after launch. The PSP has a very low tie-in, even by portable standards, which are always poor compared to home systems. That isn't the result of piracy, its the result of people not being that interested in what they bought. I suspect because too many of the games were slightly gimped console ports with disappointing loading times, missing features, awkward controls, and the novelty of the pretty graphics on a handheld device quickly dissapated when people knew what to expect.

With all that said, however, it is unfair to say America gave up on the PSP. It is the best selling handheld without a Nintendo name on its label. People greatly underestimated how difficult it was going to be to unseat Nintendo. They ignored how masterful a developer Nintendo is just as they so often do, and they ignored the much cheaper price tag that didn't correspond to a gap in quality software. Nintendo clearly put thought into making something that was fun to play around with when it was in your hands, Sony was not so inventive. Still, Sony has talented developers and they were able to put out a steady enough stream of titles to keep the PSP competitive. It has plenty of third party relationships and its initial sales meant the cost of development remained a system where money could be made, so the PSP still gets plenty of good software. In my opinion the software actually began to improve as the sales began to go down sadly. Still, it is a successful system, even in America where it's sold over 21 million, and sold several million more than the PS3 at this point in America for that matter. It's a shame Americans didn't stay excited for it a little longer, because it would have provided motivation for there to be more localizations. And if even half of the Japan only titles had been localized it would have been a much, much better contender with the DS. Not since the Sega Saturn has there been so much quality software shutoff from America. The DS has its own massive share of quality Japan only software, but not quite on the scale of the PSP.

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#19 SaudiFury
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hacking and piracy.

literally everyone i know friend or mere acquantice, who has a PSP has hacked and pirated virtually their entire library.

people can ***** about how piracy is being scapegoat. doesn't change the fact that the people i've met from Texas to Minnesota, from Flordia to California. that the vast majortiy of people i know online and in real life that have a PSP have had it hacked to bits and play virtually anything they want on it.

When it's that easy, the need/want to honostly buy a game goes away all together.

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#21 p3anut
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whoa, who gave up on the psp? i see more people using psp's then ds, also the psp lost alot of third party devs due to piracy and also the umd format failed because sony realized it didn't make sense when you could just download a movie onto your memory stick and store alot of movies on it then carry around lots of umd's.

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I seen more people with DS than PSP and adults not kids. DS just got more support and the games.

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#22 jasonharris48
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Because they were made by Sony, and sony handhelds are crap.

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You forgot "In my opinion" For a system is crap it sure is doing well for a non-Nintendo handheld. Heck if I remember correctly the PSP is the only non-Nintendo handheld to do this well and is selling two current gen platforms (PS3 and 360)

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#23 jasonharris48
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Because it has a terrible library.

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To each their own I prefer over the PS3 and 360 for the most part. I also prefer it over the DS when it comes to RPGs.

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#24 mtron32
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The Ipad is better than the PSP. I have the DS and PSP, neither of them have gotten much play.
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I suspect many Americans who acquired a PSP never had any intention of buying games for it, if you get what I mean.

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Because it was inferior to the DS in almost every way (aside from graphics) The US just figured the psp was a waste of time.Sp4rtan_3

So you speak for the whole United States of America?:o

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#27 Half-Way
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im sure we can find hundreds of excuses as to why the psp failed, but the truth in the end will always be the lacking game library compared to the DS.

No matter what way you look at it, people buy game systems because of the games. I know, shocking, right?

There was really no way the psp could beat a gaming platform with a library so great that it matched the ps2's

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i think americans buy the most of the worst product. they bought the ds, not that it was bad, but the tech was awful and the games, while fun, none were like socom, mgs, gta on he psp. I am american btw lol. you also see this with 360 outselling the clearly better ps3. i had a 360 which died on me, and i loved it, but the ps3 has blu ray and better games. Well some may argue that the ds had great games, but i'm not into mario(i'm not 10 anymore lol). But the ps3 clearly has better games than the 360, yet it is being outsold in america by the 360. kinda makes you wonder what people are thinking, and what influences them to by a 360 over ps3

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So, because most Americans apparently have different tastes than you, it means they buy the worst products?

Ok then.....

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i think americans buy the most of the worst product. they bought the ds, not that it was bad, but the tech was awful and the games, while fun, none were like socom, mgs, gta on he psp. I am american btw lol. you also see this with 360 outselling the clearly better ps3. i had a 360 which died on me, and i loved it, but the ps3 has blu ray and better games. Well some may argue that the ds had great games, but i'm not into mario(i'm not 10 anymore lol). But the ps3 clearly has better games than the 360, yet it is being outsold in america by the 360. kinda makes you wonder what people are thinking, and what influences them to by a 360 over ps3

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This is one of those post that call for a facepalm lol.

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[QUOTE="SpeedsterCards"]

i think americans buy the most of the worst product. they bought the ds, not that it was bad, but the tech was awful and the games, while fun, none were like socom, mgs, gta on he psp. I am american btw lol. you also see this with 360 outselling the clearly better ps3. i had a 360 which died on me, and i loved it, but the ps3 has blu ray and better games. Well some may argue that the ds had great games, but i'm not into mario(i'm not 10 anymore lol). But the ps3 clearly has better games than the 360, yet it is being outsold in america by the 360. kinda makes you wonder what people are thinking, and what influences them to by a 360 over ps3

jasonharris48

This is one of those post that call for a facepalm lol.

just wanted to see what people would say, lol ouch, but yea i went too far saying worse. but i think the 360 over ps3 is a spot on opinion lol
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#32 Mr_Cumberdale
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Piracy, and Americans tend to stay at home all the time. This gives them more time to play consoles.
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Long loading times, bad games, and worse than ps2 graphics.

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#34 XboximusPrime
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Someone please correct me if im wrong, but I think the Japanese market is much acceptable of control issues and non streamlined stuff. I mean, look at japanese role Palying games comapred to Western Role playing games. Japanese ones are convoluted and tough to control or itnerface with, whiel Western ones are streamlined more and simplified in a way that makes them easily accesible. European players maybe as well. American developers (and maybe even most american gamers) perfer thing that are easy to control, arent convoluted and so on and so forth. I think not having a second analog nub killed it in america.

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Long loading times, bad games, and worse than ps2 graphics.

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It was a handheld that came out in 2005. :? What did you expect? As for the long loading times I haven't played to many new titles with bad loading times. As for the library of games, to each their own when it comes to that. I actually prefer my PSP collection compared to my PS3 and 360 library.

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Because it was inferior to the DS in almost every way (aside from graphics) The US just figured the psp was a waste of time.sanim02

So you speak for the whole United States of America?:o

Nope just giving my opinion on why the psp is a failure handheld in the states :)
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#38 TheMoreYouOwn
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I didn't give up. I play mine every day.
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Because it was inferior to the DS in almost every way (aside from graphics) The US just figured the psp was a waste of time.Sp4rtan_3

So you speak for the whole United States of America?:o

Nope just giving my opinion on why the psp is a failure handheld in the states :)

Kind of funny considering the PSP is still outselling the PS3 and 360.

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The PSP carved out a smaller market with a larger percentage that didn't care to pay for games. Oh, and droughts in the west.

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#41 darth-pyschosis
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Because most consumers in America don't want handhelds that try to play home console games/ports.

They want portablitiy and originality, and most of all a good vast library of great games. Also, a lot of the "core" users of PSPs are pirates. I'm not saying they all are, but you do see a large part of the "core" PSP users talking about illegal things.

Consumers never really bought Software for the PSP, and thus developers stopped supporting in outside of Japanese developers.

American consumers don't really seem interested in the japanese software the PSP offers, and while all of it might be awesome, its just not what the market wants, thus the PSP sells a meager 2-4 million units per year in America.

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#42 monkeychris
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Advertising was lacking, iPod was becomming popular. PS3 and Xbox 360 steal attention. 3DS advertised better. Individual games didn't recieve attention.

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#43 Ultra_Combo
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Sony has gone from first to worst in Gaming in the US and their other products have suffered the same fate I'm afraid. My opinion is they don't make the best products like they used to although that applies to their electronics more so then there gaming platforms. America just prefers 360\DS to PS3\PSP.

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#44 bbkkristian
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The PSP failed because it failed to capture its audience and it appealed to the Wrong audience as well in addition to the fact it had no games.
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#45 supdotcom
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The psp sold fairly well, I don't get what your saying. As a first try for sony in the handheld department, I'd say they did a pretty good job.

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#46 Rahnyc4
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The psp sold fairly well, I don't get what your saying. As a first try for sony in the handheld department, I'd say they did a pretty good job.

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all fairness it did well thanks to sony's money bank. people always say that the psp was the first handheld to stand up against the ds, but the fact is that the other handheld that were out didn't have founding by a big corporation, such as sony. the other handheld rivers didnt have a money tray to support them as with what sony did for the psp.