So... why EXACTLY is Rage a bad game?

Not my opinion, but that's what I hear about the game. Someone is willing to sell it to me for $28, and I thought I might give it try.

But I'm still not entirely sure....

I hear that it's just a "bad" game. What exactly makes it bad? I tried the PS3 demo, and the gameplay seems solid. 60fps is also a nice plus, but I'm guessing that's why id Software slacked up on the texture quality.

The textures look like ass when you get close to them. But it won't be a game-breaker for me.I don't know anything about the story though...

Is the story the reason why people say Rage sucks? I also hear it's only about 8-12 hours, and the game isn't as "open" as people hoped it would be.

I kinda feel like I would be better off renting it. I don't know.... what do you guys think?

Its not bad, just not great. Its pretty dated in some of its design (the story is practically non existant and the character's silence makes the proceedings weird and unnatural), it doesn't have a lot of color, for an open world its not really all that open, the PC version kind of came gypped, and its been in development forever for us to get this.

The game really isn't "open world". Getting from point A to B is kind of open, but when you're on foot it's linear. The game also comes to an abrupt end, but beyond that, I think people complain just because there was so much hype for it.

Why are people fooled into thinking it's open world? You could tell by the very first few screenshots the game uses the bead-shaped concept like Crysis 2. Also, it's a good game if you want a post-apoc shooter with good combat, it's just not revolutionary or ground breaking, like a £5 four star hollywood thriller from 5 years ago.

People over hyped it cause of the reputation of the developers who made it.

It had it's moments but I couldn't force myself to finish it.

Not a bad game at all actually.

Just to System Wars if a game flops = bad. It's still great crazy Id Software fun. Firefights are satisfying, pretty to look at. Just don't expect a grand epic storyline.

Bottom line: Go into this game with a blank stare and a yearning for shooting mutants. You'll have a blast.

Who said it's a bad game? People just had unrealistic expectations.

Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.RandoIph

Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.RandoIph

[QUOTE="RandoIph"]Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="RandoIph"]Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.GeneralShowzer

Also, use the wingstick, if you aren't you are doing it wrong.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="RandoIph"]Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.heretrix

Also, use the wingstick, if you aren't you are doing it wrong.

Yeah RAGE might be flawed in some ways, but Id Software knows amazing gunplay.

It's not, I'm playing it right now. It's got the best gunplay I've ever seen in any game and it's fun as hell.

Not a bad game at all actually.

Just to System Wars if a game flops = bad. It's still great crazy Id Software fun. Firefights are satisfying, pretty to look at. Just don't expect a grand epic storyline.

Bottom line: Go into this game with a blank stare and a yearning for shooting mutants. You'll have a blast.

MLBknights58

Is there any replay value? Because if it's only good for one run, I might just rent it instead of buying it.

The open world, and everything that happens in it, is basically just filler. Side quests take you places you have already been, minigames provide cash that you don't really need, races are stupid easy and pretty boring.

The actual linear story missions are quite good, the enemy AI is great and the gunplay is solid, but these account for only part of the experience. They should have ditched the open world aspect and made it a linear shooter.

The point is that id hasn't taken full advantage if the open world. Though towns are full of details and the excellent graphics aswell as 60fps are fantastic, the rest seems like empty areas on a film shoot waiting for you to unlock the level that uses them. Despite being free roam, there isn't much to do outside of the main missions

Any FPS where the act of actually firing a gun is dull and boring is automatically bad. Graphics aren't as good as hyped to be, just not fun to play. That's about it.RandoIph

wow really? the gunplay is some of the best i've ever played and certainly is the strong point of that game. i don't see how this is possible. could you please list some games that you consider to have great gunplay?

i played the demo and what i got from that is the game is pretty,smooth and the gunplay is fun.

I just didn't like the shooting mechanics at all. When the shooting feels off in a shooter, there's pretty much no point in playing it. Plus I really don't find post-apocalyptic wastelands to be all that compelling of a setting.

If you played Borderlands, you already played this game.chilly-chill

Sigh. System Wars.

I'll be getting it next week and see what's the hate about. I tried the 360's demo and textures were ps2 quality... Wasn't iD Tech 5 supposed to be amazing? Sup with one of the worst textures seen this gen? Its like they were supposed to load but didn't (a la unreal engine 3).silversix_

It's not a bad game but it is a disappointment, especially on the PC. The gameplay is solid but the technical flaws and terrible texture resolution really mar the experiance.

I played the PS3 demo and enjoyed walking around the shanty town and talking to the locals more than actually shooting things in the face. That isn't a great sign.

I played the PS3 demo and enjoyed walking around the shanty town and talking to the locals more than actually shooting things in the face. That isn't a great sign.

dommeus

It's not a bad game but it is a disappointment, especially on the PC. The gameplay is solid but the technical flaws and terrible texture resolution really mar the experiance.

Wasdie

You could tell console was lead platform. 60fps isn't really that special on PC, which was one of the big features of the game.

Also, Mp is halfbaked.

The 360 demo certainly didn't leave me with a good impression. The textures look like crap and the thing where they have to reload when you look in a slightly different direction has been vastly understated by people who like the game.

There are No headshots, you can shoot an enemy two or three times in the head before they die, this makes things very annoying when you just want to kill everything fast. The enviroment gets very boring very fast and the enemies are the same throughout the game. Money is basically worthless so some quests or side quests are worthless. The story is rubbish, Why are these people waiting 100+ years for me to come do anything about there situation when they could have done it themselves in that time? Nothing really gets answered. I had fun playing it for about 6-7 hours but I wouldnt touch it again.

There are No headshots, you can shoot an enemy two or three times in the head before they die, this makes things very annoying when you just want to kill everything fast. The enviroment gets very boring very fast and the enemies are the same throughout the game. Money is basically worthless so some quests or side quests are worthless. The story is rubbish, Why are these people waiting 100+ years for me to come do anything about there situation when they could have done it themselves in that time? Nothing really gets answered. I had fun playing it for about 6-7 hours but I wouldnt touch it again.

sailor232

The 360 demo certainly didn't leave me with a good impression. The textures look like crap and the thing where they have to reload when you look in a slightly different direction has been vastly understated by people who like the game.

topgunmv

Its a really good game, that was expected to be something its not basicly.

It is not something that will change a genre, or alter the course of history (note that the Devs WERE capable of just that in days gone by).

It has some things that it misses with, and sometimes it can drag a bit (which I strangely enough apriciated since it felt that the world was a bit more real).

The main flaw I can find with the game is that it is not like current gen Shooters for the ADD crowd. Look Rage is notexactly a deep experience, but it has a differnet kind of pacing, and is not allbig explotions and "omfg" moments all the time to keep the interrest of todays average gamer. It is a methodical, fairly slowpaced shooter, with some scavanging, not really openworld despite what it seems like, and sometimes it falls short.

It still hassome of the best shooting mechanics of any game this gen, and a really good enemy ai to boot.

The way I see it, the focus of Rage is the shooting, and hitting the enemy, the firefight, no flash, no overly rediculous moments (no this is not a jab at CoD, just this gen in particular).

In alot of ways this game felt more... true... but also clunky. There are not alot of games that require a methodic pacing nowadays, and in some ways (not in the visual area) it sometimes reminded me a tad of Stalker, altho far more simplistic.

A possible problem with the game I might suspect is the controls, I play it on PC, and it often feels like the good old Quake games. But I suspect that th console controles, might feel a bit off, due to the very basicnature of the game, can someone confirm this btw? This is a game where I suspect Aim assist mightruin some aspects? Well the enemy hitboxes ARE fairly huge even on the PC version, so not sure if it would be a problem afterall.

So its basicly a good game as stated above multiple times, its just not great. Not that many great fps games exist anyways, most of it is hype.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

The 360 demo certainly didn't leave me with a good impression. The textures look like crap and the thing where they have to reload when you look in a slightly different direction has been vastly understated by people who like the game.

heretrix

Well the demo runs off the harddrive, so unless they fixed it up some in the full game, it would be too distracting for me.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

The 360 demo certainly didn't leave me with a good impression. The textures look like crap and the thing where they have to reload when you look in a slightly different direction has been vastly understated by people who like the game.

topgunmv

Well the demo runs off the harddrive, so unless they fixed it up some in the full game, it would be too distracting for me.

See, this is exactly why the review scores on this site do FAR more harm than good. According to gamespot's review, it got a 7 out of 10, which equals a 'GOOD' game. However, because most people on here just face roll navigate to the review scores only look for 9+ ratings, anything less than that is automatically labeled as a 'bad' game or a 'flop'.

Please remove the stupid and pointless review scores so threads like this stop happening.

There are No headshots, you can shoot an enemy two or three times in the head before they die, this makes things very annoying when you just want to kill everything fast. The enviroment gets very boring very fast and the enemies are the same throughout the game. Money is basically worthless so some quests or side quests are worthless. The story is rubbish, Why are these people waiting 100+ years for me to come do anything about there situation when they could have done it themselves in that time? Nothing really gets answered. I had fun playing it for about 6-7 hours but I wouldnt touch it again.

sailor232

See, this is exactly why the review scores on this site do FAR more harm than good. According to gamespot's review, it got a 7 out of 10, which equals a 'GOOD' game. However, because most people on here just face roll navigate to the review scores only look for 9+ ratings, anything less than that is automatically labeled as a 'bad' game or a 'flop'.

Please remove the stupid and pointless review scores so threads like this stop happening.

xxxLUGZxxx

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

See, this is exactly why the review scores on this site do FAR more harm than good. According to gamespot's review, it got a 7 out of 10, which equals a 'GOOD' game. However, because most people on here just face roll navigate to the review scores only look for 9+ ratings, anything less than that is automatically labeled as a 'bad' game or a 'flop'.

Please remove the stupid and pointless review scores so threads like this stop happening.

chilly-chill

I don't have a PC that could run it well...but I certainly wouldn't base my decision on the review score. But I ca promise you that if everything remained the same, and Gamespot would have changed the score to a 9....then people's opinions would magically be different about the game.

See, this is exactly why the review scores on this site do FAR more harm than good. According to gamespot's review, it got a 7 out of 10, which equals a 'GOOD' game. However, because most people on here just face roll navigate to the review scores only look for 9+ ratings, anything less than that is automatically labeled as a 'bad' game or a 'flop'.

Please remove the stupid and pointless review scores so threads like this stop happening.

xxxLUGZxxx

And you came to this conclusion after reading the OP? It's as if you only read the thread title, then posted.

I actually played some of it's coop with a friend on Friday and it seemed rather generic, though it's technical aspects were solid. If the campaign is anything like the cooperative I can see why people would be turned off by it.

For all the talk of this super megatexturing and then to turn around and give us that S*** was kind of annoying. Gameplay is fun enough. But its like you turn very fast and you catch the game with its trousers around its ankles as it quickly pulls them back up and everything is normal again :P

It looks like a decent game. If you're interested in it and you're in the mood for a shooter in this genre I think you'll enjoy it. I can't speak about my experience with it personally because... well... I haven't had any experience with it. :P

But in case you hadn't seen TC, Amazon has the game on sale for $19 currently. I don't know if this is just a day deal or what, but that's $10 cheaper than what your friend is offering you. May be a little easier to take the leap and get the game at that price. ;)

http://www.amazon.com/Rage-Xbox-360/dp/B00354NAYG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324257299&sr=8-1

Its below average. I could literly talk for an hour about how many things Rage manages to get wrong. My advice? Save your money or try out an arcade game.

RAGE has good graphics and gameplay, but the game is simply too short to warrrent the price of 60$. Also while it's "open world", but it really doesn't feel that way since it's a pretty small world and doesn't have too much to do in it. Be a good game when the price drops, but not now. Overall I would score the game a 4/5 or an 7.5/10