So why exactly is the MW2 DLC a bad deal?

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#1 jamejame
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Am I the only one who finds it funny that everyone rages over the MW2 DLC price when its completely comparable and more justifiable even then Halo 3's DLC which millions happily bought and never complained about? Both MW2 DLC packs contain 3 brand spankin' new maps and 2 recycled CoD4 maps for $15. The Halo 3 map packs gave you 3 maps (some were new, some were remakes) for $10. That's 2 less than what MW2 gives you. MW2 is charging you $3.00 a map and Halo 3 is charging you $3.33 a map. While I agree they're still a bit pricey, by that logic the Halo 3 map packs were pricey, though they were never complained about the the extent of the MW2 map packs here. Hell, if anything, IW is being more generous by not excluding large amounts of gametypes for those who don't have the newest maps (which Bungie did). Where is the logic in all of you moaners' complaints? Sounds more like another attempted justification of Activision being evil when they're comparable to any other dev in reality. Food for thought.

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#2 locopatho
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People just don't like the COD4 maps in there. $3 for a map you'll play to death seems grand to me. Tho I didn't buy them myself I don't think it's especially greedy.
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first of all people here dont like mw2

secondly, for 3 new maps it shouldn't be 15 bucks

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#4 Doom_HellKnight
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£10.99 for three new maps and two old ones? No thanks. It looks pretty bad, especially when I look over at something like Team Fortress 2 and see they add loads of new content, including maps, for free.

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#5 Pug-Nasty
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I'm gonna go with the recycled maps causing the uproar. Not that some people didn't want them, but a lot people felt they already paid for them when they bought COD4 and, being that the games are on the same engine, it's not like a whole lot of work was required to put them in MW2. I feel the same way about the WaW zombie maps. I paid 30 bucks for 3 zombie maps because that's what I wanted, not the MP maps, but they want to charge more for a LE of Black Ops to include them? What a crock.

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#6 loadedboon
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Am I the only one who finds it funny that everyone rages over the MW2 DLC price when its completely comparable and more justifiable even then Halo 3's DLC which millions happily bought and never complained about? Both MW2 DLC packs contain 3 brand spankin' new maps and 2 recycled CoD4 maps for $15. The Halo 3 map packs gave you 3 maps (some were new, some were remakes) for $10. That's 2 less than what MW2 gives you. MW2 is charging you $3.00 a map and Halo 3 is charging you $3.33 a map. While I agree they're still a bit pricey, by that logic the Halo 3 map packs were pricey, though they were never complained about the the extent of the MW2 map packs here. Hell, if anything, IW is being more generous by not excluding large amounts of gametypes for those who don't have the newest maps (which Bungie did). Where is the logic in all of you moaners' complaints? Sounds more like another attempted justification of Activision being evil when they're comparable to any other dev in reality. Food for thought.

jamejame

You only get 3 new maps so you pay $5 dollar a map not $3. And if you bought the COD4 mappacks you're paying again for maps you already bought. Yes so cheap and reasonable :roll:

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#7 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="jamejame"]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that everyone rages over the MW2 DLC price when its completely comparable and more justifiable even then Halo 3's DLC which millions happily bought and never complained about? Both MW2 DLC packs contain 3 brand spankin' new maps and 2 recycled CoD4 maps for $15. The Halo 3 map packs gave you 3 maps (some were new, some were remakes) for $10. That's 2 less than what MW2 gives you. MW2 is charging you $3.00 a map and Halo 3 is charging you $3.33 a map. While I agree they're still a bit pricey, by that logic the Halo 3 map packs were pricey, though they were never complained about the the extent of the MW2 map packs here. Hell, if anything, IW is being more generous by not excluding large amounts of gametypes for those who don't have the newest maps (which Bungie did). Where is the logic in all of you moaners' complaints? Sounds more like another attempted justification of Activision being evil when they're comparable to any other dev in reality. Food for thought.

loadedboon

You only get 3 new maps so you pay $5 dollar a map not $3. And if you bought the COD4 mappacks you're paying again for maps you already bought. Yes so cheap and reasonable :roll:

Those maps were from COD4 not the map packs, if you bought COD4 you paid for them already.

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#8 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="jamejame"]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that everyone rages over the MW2 DLC price when its completely comparable and more justifiable even then Halo 3's DLC which millions happily bought and never complained about? Both MW2 DLC packs contain 3 brand spankin' new maps and 2 recycled CoD4 maps for $15. The Halo 3 map packs gave you 3 maps (some were new, some were remakes) for $10. That's 2 less than what MW2 gives you. MW2 is charging you $3.00 a map and Halo 3 is charging you $3.33 a map. While I agree they're still a bit pricey, by that logic the Halo 3 map packs were pricey, though they were never complained about the the extent of the MW2 map packs here. Hell, if anything, IW is being more generous by not excluding large amounts of gametypes for those who don't have the newest maps (which Bungie did). Where is the logic in all of you moaners' complaints? Sounds more like another attempted justification of Activision being evil when they're comparable to any other dev in reality. Food for thought.

Pug-Nasty

You only get 3 new maps so you pay $5 dollar a map not $3. And if you bought the COD4 mappacks you're paying again for maps you already bought. Yes so cheap and reasonable :roll:

Those maps were from COD4 not the map packs, if you bought COD4 you paid for them already.

you proved my point you already paid for them and now they want you to pay for the maps again, so your point?

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Maybe they were both horrible. Anyway, why would you buy those mappacks when the community makes like 1 nice map per month?

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#10 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

You only get 3 new maps so you pay $5 dollar a map not $3. And if you bought the COD4 mappacks you're paying again for maps you already bought. Yes so cheap and reasonable :roll:

loadedboon

Those maps were from COD4 not the map packs, if you bought COD4 you paid for them already.

you proved my point you already paid for them and now they want you to pay for the maps again, so your point?

Agreeing, but mentioning that the COD4 maps in MW2 map packs weren't from COD4s map packs, but from the retail game. So, I was saying you didn't have to buy COD4s map packs for MW2s map packs to be double charging you, you only had to have purchased COD4.

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#11 Miroku32
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First of all map packs should be free, in fact, the only DLC that should cost money are expansions like episodes of Liberty City or the Fallout 3 expansions. Second, two recycled maps from an old game that uses the same engine of MW2 and it is a game from this generation, I mean, I perhaps could have accepted if they brought maps from the first three games so it isn't justifiable.
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#12 xgeua
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Halo 3 had forge which could make limitless maps especially on foundry and sandbox

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#13 dkjestrup
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I think they just didn't release enough maps. They should release 15 NEW maps, not recycled ones (I'd pay 0.50 for a recycled map) for $20. They need to learn that customer loyalty/treatment matter. Sure, the more casual players don't care. But as soon as the hardcore players move on to something else like Rage, and Gamebattles/MLG starts focusing on that, the player base will move.
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#14 i5750at4Ghz
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DLC maps in general are a bad deal. Console gamers get ripped off left and right, and seem to enjoy it.
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#15 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Those maps were from COD4 not the map packs, if you bought COD4 you paid for them already.

Pug-Nasty

you proved my point you already paid for them and now they want you to pay for the maps again, so your point?

Agreeing, but mentioning that the COD4 maps in MW2 map packs weren't from COD4s map packs, but from the retail game. So, I was saying you didn't have to buy COD4s map packs for MW2s map packs to be double charging you, you only had to have purchased COD4.

Okay if they were in the standard vanilla game then I admit my mistake but either way you pay for maps you already paid for. But you agreed so no point in debating little insignificant details :)

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#16 DraugenCP
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Okay, they're both ridiculous.

Happy now?

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#17 Gamtrix
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Because the maps add up too as much as I payed for the full game. DLC is the biggest rip off this generation next only to xbox live. Games some times come down in price to lik 15 20 dollars and then some small DLC pack will cost 15 bucks, as much as you payed for the game... Sooooo lame. Stop supporting it.

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Remember when online map packs were designed to grow a community and strengthen it, selling more copies of the game... Than shamelessly milk the audience and divide the community. Both are ripoffs, simple.
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Am I the only one who finds it funny that everyone rages over the MW2 DLC price when its completely comparable and more justifiable even then Halo 3's DLC which millions happily bought and never complained about? Both MW2 DLC packs contain 3 brand spankin' new maps and 2 recycled CoD4 maps for $15. The Halo 3 map packs gave you 3 maps (some were new, some were remakes) for $10. That's 2 less than what MW2 gives you. MW2 is charging you $3.00 a map and Halo 3 is charging you $3.33 a map. While I agree they're still a bit pricey, by that logic the Halo 3 map packs were pricey, though they were never complained about the the extent of the MW2 map packs here. Hell, if anything, IW is being more generous by not excluding large amounts of gametypes for those who don't have the newest maps (which Bungie did). Where is the logic in all of you moaners' complaints? Sounds more like another attempted justification of Activision being evil when they're comparable to any other dev in reality. Food for thought.

jamejame

The maps are terrible though. To me the Call of Duty 4 maps they recycle are better than the other maps they put into it.If you've been in a room and crash comes up will it ever get skipped? Chances are no. Can you say the same for trailer park?

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Bad maps that you have to pay money for...nuff said. I think i can honestly say, none of the mw2 maps were very good and i already played the cod4 maps alot...

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Bad maps that you have to pay money for...nuff said. I think i can honestly say, none of the mw2 maps were very good and i already played the cod4 maps alot...

edinsftw

I bet you enjoyed those hacked rust matches in December

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Bad maps that you have to pay money for...nuff said. I think i can honestly say, none of the mw2 maps were very good and i already played the cod4 maps alot...

DroidPhysX

I bet you enjoyed those hacked rust matches in December

Hacked rust matches? i dont really pay attention to cod4 or mw 2 i didnt like em. What were they?

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#23 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Bad maps that you have to pay money for...nuff said. I think i can honestly say, none of the mw2 maps were very good and i already played the cod4 maps alot...

edinsftw

I bet you enjoyed those hacked rust matches in December

Hacked rust matches? i dont really pay attention to cod4 or mw 2 i didnt like em. What were they?

In December if you tried to find a match you would go into a Rust game with:

  • 9v9 Dom with never ending point limit
  • FFA with 18 players
  • 9v9 TDM where killing your teammates goes towards your killstreaks (no kill limit, scenrio also goes for domination)
  • 9v9 S&D on Rust
  • etc
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#24 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I bet you enjoyed those hacked rust matches in December

DroidPhysX

Hacked rust matches? i dont really pay attention to cod4 or mw 2 i didnt like em. What were they?

In December if you tried to find a match you would go into a Rust game with:

  • 9v9 Dom with never ending point limit
  • FFA with 18 players
  • 9v9 TDM where killing your teammates goes towards your killstreaks (no kill limit, scenrio also goes for domination)
  • 9v9 S&D on Rust
  • etc

Wow thats hilarious, i woulda killed my teammates hardcore.

IW development for pc sucked, made me quit after about 8 hours of gameplay.

Cod4, i played for like about 40 hours before going back to valve games.

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#25 ski11buzz
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halo map packs become free after time. $15 for a map pack is just plain expensive.

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#26 madsnakehhh
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3 maps by $15 seems reasonable, but on a second though, MW2 DVD was so full that they didn't even have space for 3 more maps? having in mind that some are old maps, so yeah, its a scam.

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#27 DraugenCP
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5 CoD maps (of which 2 are rehashes) for $15.

or

STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl and Call of Pripyat together for $10 through Steam.

Hm, choices, choices. :roll:

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Because paying for maps is a terrible terrible idea and the fact that one terrible idea is comparable in terribleness to another terrible idea doesn't make it a non-terrible idea?

Steam regularly has sales that sell entire games for less than the price of those map packs.

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Because map packs are ****ing stupid.
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#30 Skittles_McGee
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I got the Halo 3 maps with ODST. That being said, they're charging you $5 per map. Since the other 2 maps, already existed. But that's beside the point. It's the matter of alternative and perspective. That $15 can buy a game. And if get both packs, thats $30. For maps. Just maps. And since you'd like to compare, Bungie's maps were all new, and packs like the Mythic pack added new stuff to the game, not just maps. Then of course there's maps like Foundry, that change the way Forge was used.
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#31 93soccer
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1) People here don`t like MW2 (and rightly so) 2) They are charging $15 for 3 new maps while Bungie charged $10 for 3 new maps. 3) Bungie (or MS) reduced prices of the old DLC when a new one came out. (ie, you can buy Mythic 1 for $5 and Legendary for like $2 while Mythic 2 is still $10 so in total, you get like 9 maps for $17 now, plus there`s the two free map packs)
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i can't judge what people do with the money they earn.

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I actually never bought any of Halo 3's DLC besides the free stuff.
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#34 lordreaven
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maps packsare not worth the price. I just bought the Borderlands DLC, and each is like a mini expack. I just playe Dr. Neds Zombie Island and it was worth every penny.

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#35 alfredooo
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but halo 3 is actually good... :|

and also... NOT broken

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#36 dRuGGeRnaUt
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Maybe cause say, I live in Canada, a Microsoft points card is $19.99 + tax (22.59) for 1400msp that's 62 microsoft points for $1. That means 3 of these "killer MW2 map packs" costs us a grand total of: (drum roll)

$58.07 for some new maps, for a game that cost $59 dollars for the entire game, singles player, special ops, and multiplayer(which INCLUDES 16 maps) or

15 maps, 9 new 6 old... Wow it's hard to argue at these prices??

$58.07 for 15 new multiplayer maps is BUNK.

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#37 Kan0nF0dder
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£10.99 for three new maps and two old ones? No thanks. It looks pretty bad, especially when I look over at something like Team Fortress 2 and see they add loads of new content, including maps, for free.

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^^ Truth. Charging nearly a third of the price of a new game for some new maps is just....wow
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#38 Casboof
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Maybe because Halo 3 was never a horribly broken game. MW2 had soo many glitches and problems and it still does.

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#39 VladJasonDrac
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"So why exactly is the MW2 DLC a bad deal ..."

Because people don't want to pay $20 for a few maps that they will use for weeks/months. They would rather pay $5 for DLC they will finish in an hour....

Oh wait NVM. People complain about everything. Even if it's free.

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#40 kozzy1234
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I dont think Map packs should cost anything to be honest....

Maybe a new mission or something, but not just a few maps... half of them being old maps from a previous game in the series.

Especailly after playing Team Fortress2 on PC and Starcraft2, where you get hundreds of maps for free that are simply amaazing.

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#41 kozzy1234
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Maybe cause say, I live in Canada, a Microsoft points card is $19.99 + tax (22.59) for 1400msp that's 62 microsoft points for $1. That means 3 of these "killer MW2 map packs" costs us a grand total of: (drum roll)

$58.07 for some new maps, for a game that cost $59 dollars for the entire game, singles player, special ops, and multiplayer(which INCLUDES 16 maps) or

15 maps, 9 new 6 old... Wow it's hard to argue at these prices??

$58.07 for 15 new multiplayer maps is BUNK.

dRuGGeRnaUt

Well said brother well said

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#42 Ninja-Hippo
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Halo also added new forge maps and a whole mess of new forge tools and pieces. :)