So why has Microsoft not improved 360 controllers with better d-pads?

I'm wondering after around 4 years that the 360 has been out why MS has not made any improvements and released the standard 360 controller, but with a better d-pad? Sure you can buy those 3rd party controllers that have good d-pads, but those look uncomfortable and I'm not a fan of any 3rd party accessories. :P

Maybe they just decided they didn't want to admit the d-pad is bad?

Maybe they just decided they didn't want to admit the d-pad is bad?

treedoor

Crap... just what I was thinking. Changing it would be like admitting it's bad.

They see no reason to.siLVURcross

Maybe they just decided they didn't want to admit the d-pad is bad?

treedoor

I don't know. Personally, it would be a near perfect controller if it did have a PS3-type Dpad.

I guess there is no need to make two models or go through the hassle of discontinuing one for another, etc. I'm sure they have other priorities, and many games dont seem to use the D-pad primarily, except fighting games but competitive players dont like any kind of dpad anyway

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]They see no reason to.Doolz2024

Because theres no point. Most use the d pad gets these days is to change view or select weapon or something silly like that, and for actions like that the d pad is fine. Thye already have pads out for fighters, and theres arcade sticks too.Nidget

While D-pads don't get a lot of use in-game (except fighters), while crusing around the menu or XMB it's nice to have a good d-pad, especially when typing. But not too neccesary.

Because 3D games use thumbsticks. Only a few 360 games, like Street Fighter 4, BlazBlue and some XBLA titles are actually hindered by the bad D-pad.

Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

360 d-pad is horrible, but i hardly use it. Not a major part toward you playing games imo.OPuniverse

Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

bobcheeseball

In NHL 10 or even Fifa, It's hard to select strategies becuase of this.

Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

bobcheeseball

Ha!! I knew someone would say this!! You won the surpise title!!!

:P

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Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

GreenGoblin2099

Ha!! I knew someone would say this!! You won the surpise title!!!

:P

Nah, he's a sheep.

Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

[QUOTE="OPuniverse"]360 d-pad is horrible, but i hardly use it. Not a major part toward you playing games imo.battalionwars13

If you played Blazblue or Street Fighter on it you are gonna rage.

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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

Why hasn't Sony improved the triggers on the DualShock3?

This could go on all day.

AndyAlfredo

Ha!! I knew someone would say this!! You won the surpise title!!!

:P

Nah, he's a sheep.

Seen him enough and he takes part of the Sony bashing quite often... Honorary lemming?? :P

[QUOTE="battalionwars13"][QUOTE="OPuniverse"]360 d-pad is horrible, but i hardly use it. Not a major part toward you playing games imo.Zerocrossings

If you played Blazblue or Street Fighter on it you are gonna rage.

lol, because all the best ones (nintendo and sony) are patented. So unless they use some other crappy form, then the current one is just fine :Pnavyguy21

They need to steal the one from the Sega Saturn

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, because all the best ones (nintendo and sony) are patented. So unless they use some other crappy form, then the current one is just fine :Ptreedoor

They need to steal the one from the Sega Saturn

I'd prefer the Dreamcast D-pad, its much closer to the sony/nintedo model. The saturn

controller would run into the same problems it has now :P

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, because all the best ones (nintendo and sony) are patented. So unless they use some other crappy form, then the current one is just fine :Pnavyguy21

They need to steal the one from the Sega Saturn

I'd prefer the Dreamcast D-pad, its much closer to the sony/nintedo model. The saturn

controller would run into the same problems it has now :P

The Dreamcasts is nice, but it's sharp :P Your thumb will fall off if you play too much Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike, or something :P The Saturns is basically the same exact one as the Genesis six button, and that thing feels pretty great. I wish they would just strap two analogs to a six-button controller, and call it good. That'd be the ultimate controller.

Better question is why hasn't made any improvements to its controller in more than a decade? I truly hate that piece of sh*t controller.

not the analog controller sega saturn, the original pad. i have it modded to work for my pc and its the best dpad, bar none.

the dpad is the worst thing about the 360 other than its china syndrome issues. it hasnt been changed because people still buy the console.

Probably because it's not that big a deal.

The only people who really care about it are fighting game fans and if they're as hardcore as they profess to be, they'll be buying arcade sticks anyway. To the rest of us, it's pretty much a non issue.

Its bad.
But its no big deal. Most games don't even use it anymore.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

They need to steal the one from the Sega Saturn

treedoor

I'd prefer the Dreamcast D-pad, its much closer to the sony/nintedo model. The saturn

controller would run into the same problems it has now :P

The Dreamcasts is nice, but it's sharp :P Your thumb will fall off if you play too much Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike, or something :P The Saturns is basically the same exact one as the Genesis six button, and that thing feels pretty great. I wish they would just strap two analogs to a six-button controller, and call it good. That'd be the ultimate controller.

Now that you mention it, my thumb was a bit sensitive after playing long stretches of Shenmue back in the day :P

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[QUOTE="battalionwars13"] Pretty much. OPuniverse

If you played Blazblue or Street Fighter on it you are gonna rage.

Ugh.

True that Fightstick beats everything, but an option to use the D-pad would be nice though.

Maybe they just decided they didn't want to admit the d-pad is bad?

treedoor

I agree but if all are aware that its bad why not own up to it and charge people for a new controller with a better d-pad at a higher price than the standard one.

MS makes money, fans complain about the price, fanboys say don't like don't buy. MS wins. I'm starting to understand how this place works!

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Maybe they just decided they didn't want to admit the d-pad is bad?

GreenGoblin2099

Crap... just what I was thinking. Changing it would be like admitting it's bad.

Admitting? More like they don't care at all.

It doesn't have slippery thumbsticks and marshmellow like bumperbuttons so i can do with a pretty standard d-pad

fighting games are impossible on the 360. tekken 6 should score a 2 on the 360 version because its unplayable

They see no reason to.siLVURcross

Good thing I don't use it in a lot of games because it is horrible.

considering how little i use it. it doesnt bother me any. but yes, it is horrible. tho i dont see why people are surprised they fixed it. it's MS. do they fix any of their hardware problems? not really.

fighting games are impossible on the 360. tekken 6 should score a 2 on the 360 version because its unplayable

Revolution316

considering how little i use it. it doesnt bother me any. but yes, it is horrible. tho i dont see why people are surprised they fixed it. it's MS. do they fix any of their hardware problems? not really.

Microdevine

why hasn't sony improved the horrible ergonomics, analog stick placement, trigger feel of its controllers?

I am surprised too, they should be making a new controller to get as much money from 360 users as fast as possible. This is a very unusual for MS that they haven't released another controller considering how many add-ons the 360 has.

360 d-pad is horrible, but i hardly use it. Not a major part toward you playing games imo.OPuniverse

Agreed. It does suck but I really can't think of any game where you primarily have to use the d-pad for anything other than to maybe access a secondary function or menu in a game. If I have to use the d-pad for a fighting game, I have the SFIV gamepad. I remember hearing that they improved them when they came out with the red controllers but I have one and don't notice a difference. It just feels rough and rigid on the thumb.